Snap Counts vs Det

[Kupped]

Well, when they had a healthy Mundt it wouldnt have been something teams were expecting, or gamplan for, which would not be the case if we were to lose Higbee. Also would basically eliminate the rushing game. Not a good combo

I don’t like that it takes away a true power game.

 

[1maGoh]

Could he be worse than Reeder? No way.

Who could be worse than Jamie Duncan?
Who could be worse than Robert Thomas?
Who could be worse than Chris Claiborne?
Who could be worse than Will Witherspoon (I actually don't remember him being awful, but I was young and I'm pretty sure we wanted an upgrade desperately)?
Then we got James Laurinaitis, which we were happy with for 1.5 years before asking...
Who could be worse than James Laurinaitis?
Queue Alec Ogletree and his back breaking missed tackles.

My point being, while I think Snead would find a good replacement, someone can always find new and exciting ways to fuck up and make us realize it wasn't so bad with the last guy.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah that list damn. Laurinaitis was limited too, no doubt. ILB seems to be one of those cursed positions for us, like TE.

I am very thankful in fact that Higs has developed into who he is, it's nice to have a good player at the position. Hopefully Jones does that for us at ILB.

 

[CoachAllred]

Agreed. I wonder how good his grasp is of the scheme. But even if he doesn't have the full mastery of it I would stick his ass out there over Reeder at this point minus the green dot.

Looks like we are going to get our wish. Let him take his lumps now, like Rochelle.
By playoff time they will be vets.

 

[Memento]

Looks like we are going to get our wish. Let him take his lumps now, like Rochelle.
By playoff time they will be vets.

I'd also trade Robinson for a pick, and let BB3 take his lumps (while also bringing Earnest Brown IV up to the active roster).

Call me crazy, if you want.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I'd also trade Robinson for a pick, and let BB3 take his lumps (while also bringing Earnest Brown IV up to the active roster).

Call me crazy, if you want.

You may be crazy, but I'll join you in the asylum. Both could be of service in our upcoming Tennessee game defending against the run. jmo.

 

[Merlin]

I'd also trade Robinson for a pick, and let BB3 take his lumps (while also bringing Earnest Brown IV up to the active roster).

Call me crazy, if you want.

That's not crazy at all. Robinson is a solid run stuffer the way he's playing now. Thinking his pay is a little high for that role but maybe they could find a taker. This would also require them to be impressed with how BB has been practicing, which is possible. Only they know there though unfortunately.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Seems to me that Tutu Atwell should just be inactive every week until another WR goes down, IMO.

Replace him with a bigger body that actually contribute (especially on special teams).

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Seems to me that Tutu Atwell should just be inactive every week until another WR goes down, IMO.

Replace him with a bigger body that actually contribute (especially on special teams).

I’m still waiting to see his blazing speed in a game. I haven’t seen it in the return game. Neither he nor DJ have been used to take the top off the defense much if at all. I thought speed was McVays big concern but he barely uses it. At well can catch, why not send him sprinting down the sideline and see if he can get open?

I understand the concept of letting him get bigger for next year, but if that is the case then, like you said, make him inactive.
It reminds me of the Truong Canidate pick, except Martz actually tried to use him.

I’d be feeling better with DBs Paulson Adebo or Aaron Robinson on the roster right now. Or LB Nick Bolton. Tutu is one of the more head scratching picks in a while. Falling in love with measurables doesn’t always commute to success, especially in a stacked unit.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That's not crazy at all. Robinson is a solid run stuffer the way he's playing now. Thinking his pay is a little high for that role but maybe they could find a taker. This would also require them to be impressed with how BB has been practicing, which is possible. Only they know there though unfortunately.

I wondered if like Atwell they felt Brown was not in NFL shape. He has been known to not always have full effort in college. Ditto for EB. It was a weaker draft class and it feels like the entire class was full of gambles that may or may not succeed in the future, because most are not contributing at all this year. (I know every draft is a gamble, but this was a very shallow draft class)

With next years draft being so deep it could have made sense to be trying to trade picks for next years draft instead of gambling on high upside projects.

 

[BonifayRam]

Actually Rochelle got the start, and him being injured early on skews his snaps. Deayon is ahead of Long, and rightfully so.

Yes, you would be correct to bring up the wear & tear ongoing on the new rookie Robert Rochell. He did have several setbacks very early in OTA's/ TC & preseason. I thought one injury required surgery a metal plate inserted into his forearm ??? Rockell would also seem to have a series of other ailments too.

Rams head coach Sean McVay: Cornerback Robert Rochell strained his knee vs. Lions but "is going to be OK"; updates on offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth, defensive lineman Sebastian Joseph-Day and more

www.therams.com

If 3rd season corner David long had turned out to be a legitimate backup corner (which he is NOT) then overwork & the use of a 4th rd rookie placed in such an early challenging post, we would be having a different discussion at this point.

If Rochell can hold up & not succumb to overuse on his wore down body here in week 7 we should be in decent condition when Darious Williams is slowly sliding back into action.

Until then let us have some real fun & watch a vastly undersized short thin corner making good plays that were meant for much bigger men.

As for all the hyped coach speak on the promising corner, David Long .......I see no benefit for him still being on the roster unless we can do a trade similar to what we did with Kenny Young....or prefer a release & his MR53 better utilized elsewhere.

I sure hope someone will take exception to what they might feel is a hasty knee-jerk action to David Long.....anyone.

 

[So Ram]

Yes, you would be correct to bring up the wear & tear ongoing on the new rookie Robert Rochell. He did have several setbacks very early in OTA's/ TC & preseason. I thought one injury required surgery a metal plate inserted into his forearm ??? Rockell would also seem to have a series of other ailments too.

Rams head coach Sean McVay: Cornerback Robert Rochell strained his knee vs. Lions but "is going to be OK"; updates on offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth, defensive lineman Sebastian Joseph-Day and more

www.therams.com

If 3rd season corner David long had turned out to be a legitimate backup corner (which he is NOT) then overwork & the use of a 4th rd rookie placed in such an early challenging post, we would be having a different discussion at this point.

If Rochell can hold up & not succumb to overuse on his wore down body here in week 7 we should be in decent condition when Darious Williams is slowly sliding back into action.

Until then let us have some real fun & watch a vastly undersized short thin corner making good plays that were meant for much bigger men.

As for all the hyped coach speak on the promising corner David Long .......I see no benefit for him still being on the roster & would prefer a release & his MR53 better utilized elsewhere.

I sure hope someone will take exception to what they might feel is a hasty knee-jerk action to David Long.....anyone.

He had 2 tackles.

I am not going to argue with you as of now.If The Rams lose to Houston then they have a REAL problem.

D. Williams is getting PAID.The hope was David Long could step in for Troy Hill who I don’t think is doing all that well in Cleveland?

RR31 has been better than expected.You look at the Niners & Tre Lance.I’d say The Rams made out well coming from a small University.

DD21 - he has such a big heart.Don’t take away from what he is doing.He might not be the answer,but like you said. It is fun seeing him get the chance.
Who knows what is in store for the future.Just enjoying the winning & holding my breath thinking that they don’t lose to say a Lions team at home.

 

[Merlin]

If 3rd season corner David long had turned out to be a legitimate backup corner (which he is NOT) then overwork & the use of a 4th rd rookie placed in such an early challenging post, we would be having a different discussion at this point.

Long is probably on par with most CB5 depth chart types around the league. The prob was them trotting him out there in a role he wasn't ready for even after he got fucking roasted in camp vs teams like Dallas.

Deayon coming in and showing well is a really big boost for this defense because along with Rochell it puts Long back to where he should be which is in a non-starting role. Right now we look pretty good once we get Williams back and if Rochell is healthy as we have been led to believe. Ramsey > Williams > Rochell > Deayon > Long looks fine to me.

If I wanted to nitpick I would question our CB3 Rochell and whether he's going to be ready in the playoffs. But my instincts on him for whatever reason all I can say is I'm not worried about him.

 

[CoachAllred]

But my instincts on him for whatever reason all I can say is I'm not worried about him.

Same here. I get the sense he is a baller and if he can stay on the field,
I think he just needs the reps to become a plus on D.

 

[OldSchool]

I'd also trade Robinson for a pick, and let BB3 take his lumps (while also bringing Earnest Brown IV up to the active roster).

Call me crazy, if you want.

Wouldn't be upset but trading him is the same for our cap as cutting him, that bonus on the books the next 2 years rolls up to this year and it's a cap hit.

 

[shovelpass]

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/27/rams-offense-lineup-personnel-groupings/

Crazy stat shows how rarely Rams mix up their personnel on offense​

Cameron DaSilva

The Los Angeles Rams set out to add some depth on offense this offseason, seemingly in an attempt to become more multiple and allow Sean McVay to mix things up personnel-wise on that side of the ball. There were visions of Tutu Atwell and DeSean Jackson split out wide, with Cooper Kupp in the slot and Cam Akers in the backfield. Or Kupp, Jackson, Tyler Higbee, Jacob Harris and Darrell Henderson Jr. lining up together, creating mismatches at all levels of the field.

Those visions obviously haven’t come to light in the first seven weeks of the season. In fact, the Rams are using fewer unique personnel groupings than any other team in the NFL – and it’s not even close.

Eric Edholm of Yahoo Sports discovered that the Rams have only used two unique starting lineups and 38 unique personnel groupings on offense. The next-closest team is the Vikings, who have had 81 unique groupings.

This isn’t necessarily new for McVay because if you’ll remember, he relied heavily on 11 personnel in his first two seasons. He liked to keep Woods, Kupp and Sammy Watkins (in 2017) or Brandin Cooks (in 2018) on the field together, which limited the number of different looks the Rams gave on offense.

He’s evolved over the last three seasons, but he still doesn’t like to change things up much with which players get on the field. Atwell has played 10 snaps, Harris has played six, Jackson has only played 100 (22.6%) and Sony Michel has played 117 (26.5%).
Their starters on offense have all played at least 69% of the offensive snaps, with Michel playing the most of any backup. There’s no indication that will change anytime soon, either. Atwell hasn’t made enough progress to warrant snaps on offense, Harris is still raw and Henderson remains the clear-cut RB1.

For a team that seemed poised to offer a variety of looks on offense, that plan simply hasn’t come to fruition yet.

 

[Merlin]

They need to start mixing in Harris. He is up every week for teams. Give him a handful of snaps.

 

[fanotodd]

Did I miss something? Where are all of the snaps for Jones or Howard if young was playing less?

There doesn’t seem to be a lotta confidence in the backup TEs.

Yikes on both!

 

[Allen2McVay]

Did I miss something? Where are all of the snaps for Jones or Howard if young was playing less?

There doesn’t seem to be a lotta confidence in the backup TEs.

Yikes on both!

Reeder got the increased snaps, and was on the field for a majority of the time as the nickel-LB.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Reeder got the increased snaps, and was on the field for a majority of the time as the nickel-LB.

OUCH is right hotanez.

Reeder had a terrible game. I hope it's not The Plan for him to be the Nickel-LB.