It's asinine in my humble opinion to evaluate a QB behind this Oline and with the WR cast.
Build the Oline and get some WR's.
I noticed you changed the subject quickly when I pointed out the inaccuracies.
Yep, I'm completely aware of that. I also watched both of those games. He played quite well against Michigan. And calling every other team he played "cupcakes" is pretty inaccurate. But that doesn't address the point that he's consistently stepped up in big games while at Michigan State. Nor does it give me much confidence that you've seen him play.
Have you watched and evaluated Cook? Because I'm more interested in reading analysis than stats that can be found on google in 10 seconds. Sorry if this comes off as brash or blunt but I'm interested in analysis. Not debating box score stats.
Each and every one is better than Keenum. Except possibly Mettenberger.
Every single one I listed is a better prospect than Mannion was.
How exactly did I change the subject? We were talking about QB prospects, you made a claim that Cook played his best in big games, I refuted that claim. He has a very poor completion ratio and it dips significantly when he plays quality opponents. And who, outside of Iowa and Michigan, is a good team that he's played this year? Name them.
Do you really want a guy like Kaepernick in the locker room? That's not a good idea. I would be extremely happy if we got Fitzpatrick. Brock Osweiler will also be a FA but he'll be a resigning priority for the Broncos and possibly even tagged for next year. I mentioned Mettenberger because I think he has some upside and the arm strength to push the ball down the field.
It is unlikely that any QB in the draft outside of Lynch and Goff would beat out Keenum/Mannion/Foles for next year. We should build up the line and WRs so when we can Draft our QB of the future we can put them in a solid situation.
Don't get me wrong, if Goff or Lynch falls to us I would snag them immediately. I just don't think that's going to happen as of now.
You're gonna make me cry on a Monday??? don't ever post an "UP" gif again!!!!
No, you didn't refute that claim. You made another erroneous claim. And didn't address the fact that you earlier erroneously claimed that he played in a spread offense.
If you watched the Michigan game, you know he played well. Not to mention these four big games:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=333410127
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=340010127
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400547958
http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400610179
So the only game you can really point to is the Iowa game...and it's kind of hard to ignore the fact that Cook was playing through an injury to his throwing shoulder.
Well, Michigan State did play and beat an Oregon team currently ranked 15th earlier this year.
But there's also a difference between good teams and cupcakes. Mediocre Big 10 teams aren't cupcakes. Cupcakes are teams like FAU or UTEP or SMU. Teams like Rutgers and Nebraska aren't cupcakes.
But again, have you actually watched and evaluated Cook? You never answered that question.
You keep talking about completion % but you're not actually offering any analysis. And based on your claims that he played in a spread offense, it would lead me to believe that you haven't seen him play. And frankly, if you haven't sat down and really evaluated a QB, you don't know enough about him to be calling him incredibly overrated.
Yes. I am fine with Kaepernick being in the locker-room.
You need to take some time and watch the other QBs in the draft if you think none of them outside of those two could beat out Keenum and Foles. Keenum and Foles have set an incredibly low bar this year.
I know a lot of people are talking about taking a QB with the 1st pick and I'm considering it myself. However, I honestly don't see any franchise QB worth taking outside of MAYBE Paxton Lynch. He and Goff should be long gone by the time the Rams pick and I don't think much of Connor Cook.
Now that I've seen more of him I do wonder how good Keenum can be if he has a stronger O-line and a better WR corps. He will never be an elite QB and is not a long-term solution but maybe he can be a solid game manager. I'm thinking we should take Treadwell in the 1st and take some linemen in later rounds to build depth ( I REALLY wish they had taken a chance on La'el Collins in the 7th Round last year). I also think we should pick up 1 or 2 veteran linemen in free agency, specifically Wisniewski at Center. Brown, Havenstein, and Wichman can all be solid especially with an off-season of training.
So those are my thoughts about the Ram's current Draft situation. What do y'all think?
Fine, you want analysis? Here it goes:
First off, it was my mistake when I mentioned him playing in a spread system. I have no clue why but I was thinking of Baylor instead of Michigan State. Now on to the analysis:
Positives:
1) He has great arm strength and size.
2) He shows good mechanics when he has a clean pocket and time to throw.
Negatives:
1) When on the move he tends to display poor mechanics and use only his arm to get the ball out. It's almost like he tries to imitate Stafford in this respect but Stafford keeps better form and has a much stronger arm.
2) He tends to panic when he doesn't have a clean pocket. This is where his mechanics falter and he will sometimes throw into traffic.
3) It's been reported that he has an abrasive personality. Look at the way he disrespected Achie Griffin after the Big Ten championship. I think there is a reason he has never been voted team captain in his 4 years there.
As for his competition, they are not good teams in my eyes. Oregon is not what they once were and their defense has never been impressive. Rutgers is NOT a good team and neither is Nebraska. Mark my words, he will struggle mightily against Alabama in the playoffs. He will not have the clean protection he has had all year and his mechanics will get worse and worse as the game goes on.