Should Rams' Stedman Bailey be fined for his 'nap' celebration?

[blue4]

To me the preconceived choreography seems like something a JV player does in front of the cheerleaders. It has always seemed odd to me that 21-35 yr old professional adults would plan out acts and dance moves for scoring. It's as silly to me as a non ZZ Top band doing tandem guitar moves. IMO of course.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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This was my reaction to the Rams tds last week.

Tavon's 2 tds - TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!huge claps.

Stedman's td - TOUCH.....wha...what happened? Did he drop it? Why isn't he celebrating? Why is he on the ground? Is he injured? Oh, it's a touchdown. Yay. Polite clapping.

I couldn't even get excited. That's why it was a bad celebration. Even some of his own teammates had to think a while before they realised it was a TD.

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[LesBaker]

Sted was fined what something like 8,000 bucks for pretending to sleep using the ball as a pillow. . . Yet Odell only gets a 9,000 dollar fine for punching someone. . . ? Come on now? These two guys make a large difference in pay checks and that does not seems even close to fair. . . What?

I don't think fines are based on a players salary, they are based on the action.

Beckham is lucky, he took a swing at a player, that is normally an ejection and a bigger fine. I saw the replay and the player that whacked him did go to his head and I can understand the frustration but it's often the guy who retaliates that get the flag and he should know that.

 

[Oldgeek]

NFL can review but this is the same group that blew the call in Seattle...what is the rule again?
Stedman needs a new celebration anyway...the sleep thing isn't good.

 

[Rmfnlt]

Stedman is appealing the fine.

This could get interesting.


View: https://twitter.com/jthom1/status/651883816202571776

Yes, on the basis he didn't know the rule.

But, it's his job to know the rules.

I think he should accept responsibility for his action, just like Fisher mentioned to him.

Just move on, Stedman....

 

[RamBill]

Stedman Bailey Fined for “Nap” Post TD Celebration

ESPN NFL analyst Darren Woodson says he doesn’t mind celebrating as long as it’s within the rules of the league.

Watch Woodson Talk Bailey

 

[blackbart]

He absolutely broke the rules with that act and honestly should get the fine. At first I thought he was just laying there clutching the ball stunned, and I was disappointed when they showed the replay, but too glad for the touchdown to care.

We're 2-2, not GSOT, and while I understand the need for a good celebration, I just don't think those antics have any place, especially when you're playing a division rival in a close game.

I agree he should have known better. Act like you've been there before and plan on being back soon. Can we for once have a guy that is more like Walter Payton???

 

[Ramhusker]

$8681? Really? Where do they pull these fine amounts from? Is it tax deductible for Stedman? I'd claim it under some sort of sleep disorder. :yess:

 

[LesBaker]

I completely disagree. Using the ball as a prop is just a ridiculous overreaction to some celebration that the league thought was over the top. It's exactly the way the NFL changes their rules year after year.

You do realize that the players union bears half of the blame for the injustice you feel.

 

[RhodyRams]

$8681? Really? Where do they pull these fine amounts from? Is it tax deductible for Stedman? I'd claim it under some sort of sleep disorder. :yess:

Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities

 

[Mikey Ram]

Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities

I would be a little surprised if that were true...Seems to me that it would dilute some of the wanted "punishment" effect of the fine...Of course I have no idea of that, just the way I would look at it...If the charity gets the money regardless, I wouldn't let them write it off...

 

[A.J. Hicks]

I have Stedman on snapchat (steddyb3). He posted a video today of him showing the cash for his fine. . . That's right 8,000 + bucks in hundred dollar bills. Wow!

 

[RhodyRams]

I would be a little surprised if that were true...Seems to me that it would dilute some of the wanted "punishment" effect of the fine...Of course I have no idea of that, just the way I would look at it...If the charity gets the money regardless, I wouldn't let them write it off...

" Money collected in fines goes to support retired players and to various charitable causes as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA"
http://www.thedailynewsonline.com/sports/article_dac659aa-cd4d-5cb6-998c-c8b626204411.html

 

[Mikey Ram]

" Money collected in fines goes to support retired players and to various charitable causes as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA"
http://www.thedailynewsonline.com/sports/article_dac659aa-cd4d-5cb6-998c-c8b626204411.html

Maybe my response wasn't posed real welL...I had no doubt about the charity aspect, just whether the players could use it as a tax write-off...They didn't donate anything, they pay a fine...That was my question...Of course I didn't read the posted article so it may have answered my question...Not an important issue at any rate (the tax part), I was just curious...

 

[Akrasian]

Maybe my response wasn't posed real welL...I had no doubt about the charity aspect, just whether the players could use it as a tax write-off...They didn't donate anything, they pay a fine...That was my question...Of course I didn't read the posted article so it may have answered my question...Not an important issue at any rate (the tax part), I was just curious...

What matters is that it was an on the field violation. That means it's likely deductible.

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/05...ner-fines-are-tax-deductible-legal-loopholes/

Fines imposed by the team or league can generally be deducted from income.

According to Robert Raiola CPA, whose Twitter handle is fittingly @SportsTaxMan, these violations must be of team/league rules and not public law in order to be deductible. For example, if an athlete gets a speeding ticket on the way to practice, it is not deductible. But if an athlete is late to a team meeting and fined, that expense is deductible.

 

[RamFan503]

Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities

If you are late on your taxes, the fines are deductible as a payroll tax liability so yeah, I would guess that they are deductible.

 

[RamFan503]

You do realize that the players union bears half of the blame for the injustice you feel.

First sensible thing you've said on this whole subject.

 

[RhodyRams]

If you are late on your taxes, the fines are deductible as a payroll tax liability so yeah, I would guess that they are deductible.

Really?

 

[RamFan503]

Really?

Hope so. It's been a few years and they didn't contest it.

 

[Robocop]

damn.. I just had to poke my head in this thread again cus I was curious how the hell it's managed to go on for 6 pages lol