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Serious Allegation in Minnesota...
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The crazy thing is if you look at Cousins stats he had a Pro Bowl year. Almost the exact same year as Goff, this with almost no running game.
Cousins
30 TD 10 int and 4298 yards.
Goff
32 TD 12 int 4688 yards
It’s the Minnesota Defense that fell apart. Lost Griffin for a long time. Lost Floyd all year and had injury’s in the secondary.
Cousins is the scapegoat the media is using. Notice how they point to Minnesota’s record and inability to make the playoffs but don’t even dare to mention Cousins stats.
This is what i call Fake news.
Cousins
30 TD 10 int and 4298 yards.
Goff
32 TD 12 int 4688 yards
It’s the Minnesota Defense that fell apart. Lost Griffin for a long time. Lost Floyd all year and had injury’s in the secondary.
Cousins is the scapegoat the media is using. Notice how they point to Minnesota’s record and inability to make the playoffs but don’t even dare to mention Cousins stats.
This is what i call Fake news.
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Just looking at stats doesn't tell the story, bro...Those stats could be inflated by Cousins, allowed by defenses playing prevent defense in a hopeless games for the Vikings. Goff may have only had one or two such games compared to him..
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There are many things we can say about the stats. I can make a legit case that Goff only had 5 legit interceptions based on Oline breakdowns causing him to trip
or get hit as he threw, or end of half hail
mary, or Reynolds not running the correct route or failing to fight for a ball etc.
There is more to look at then the stats and I provided some of the negatives Cousins dealt with.
We could also talk about play call. Some
would say the Minnesota play calling was atrocious and that’s why they fired Defilipino.
The problem with the media is they don’t even mention Cousins stats and context as a starting point. They start with paid Cousins $84 and no playoffs. It’s a narrative to get a story. I think it’s Fake News.
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It is a fully guaranteed contract, which was ground breaking. He demanded it and got it, all $84 million, and they expected a deep play off run with what Keenum did last year. Can you blame them?
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On a related note, we now know that....
QB Whisperer
NOT a QB Whisperer
Okay so i'm hating a bit on the retired big mouth, but for a guy with that rep he never developed a QB on a team that desperately needed one.
On topic,
Did Kirk Cousins' QB play top out under McVay in Washington?
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Okay so i'm hating a bit on the retired big mouth, but for a guy with that rep he never developed a QB on a team that desperately needed one.
On topic,
Did Kirk Cousins' QB play top out under McVay in Washington?
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Well he was supposed to get them to the Super Bowl. Cousins had a good September but faded in the second half with a string of ordinary performances.
Minnesota let go of Keenum and Bradford to bring him in and he was not an improvement. Didn't have much of a running game but still had Thielen and Diggs to throw to. Took too many sacks and too many short, safe throws.
Minnesota let go of Keenum and Bradford to bring him in and he was not an improvement. Didn't have much of a running game but still had Thielen and Diggs to throw to. Took too many sacks and too many short, safe throws.
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Not really! It is Ironic and does make
a good news headline and is kind of funny how it turned out for most of the league outside of Minnesota. Reminds you of how Dan Snyder used to try to buy his teams in Free Agency and the Skins would get worse and worse.
But if the media wanted to really dig into Cousins year they would see it was better than 2017 and probably his best season of his career. So Minnesota got what they paid for and then some really. Pretty Ironic that once they get the QB play settled their running game and defense falls apart.
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That's a bit generous imo. Sure Goff was hit on few passes but some were also poor decisions, staring the receiver down as soon as the ball is snapped is asking to be picked, especially when the CB is watching him the whole time. Or throwing into double coverage when there were open options. Goff should've just eaten the trip fumble, the interception is on him. He didn't have to throw it and not having it secured before throwing it doesn't help. Sure Reynolds didn't fight for the ball, but its also on Goff. It was poorly placed, it should've been on Reynolds' outside shoulder not inside where the defender has a chance at it. Sure not all are his fault, as is the case with evey QB, but like every QB there are also bad passes that could've just as well been interceptions.
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It's all McVay's fault. He set the Vikings up by turning Cousins into a successful qb at Washington.
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Meh. I’ve said it many times that Cousins is a between the 20s QB that has a difficult time stepping up in big games or at crunch time. He is also allegedly known as kind of a puss by his team mates. The Skins saw it - the queens didn’t.
And a lack of running game means you have to lean more on the pass. See stat padding offense.
People don’t bring up his stats because they mean jack. He’s like Marc Bulger. He can throw a beautiful pass and rack up yards and then shit the bed when it matters or for no reason at all.
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It's funny how the Vikings thought they were only a qb away from winning the superbowl. Then gave that ridiculous contract to a qb that didn't deserve it and found out they were much further away from the superbowl than they originally thought.
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After drafting Dalvin Cook 4th in FFB (don’t judge, I still won my league) I think there are bigger issues in Minnesota than Cousins.
Cousins is a significant upgrade from Keenum, I think last year was a magic carpet ride and the team fell back to reality this year.
Would have been a much more precipitous fall had CK returned imo.
I also think Zimmer is underrated.
@LoyalRam the thread topic and op is effing hysterical and I applaud you for that
Cousins is a significant upgrade from Keenum, I think last year was a magic carpet ride and the team fell back to reality this year.
Would have been a much more precipitous fall had CK returned imo.
I also think Zimmer is underrated.
@LoyalRam the thread topic and op is effing hysterical and I applaud you for that