Ryan Mallett dead at 35

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My brother and I tried to swim across a narrow gap in the Susquehanna River. We were fishing and have been wading while fishing the river for years. But we never went to that section before. I got pulled under, not realizing that the current was faster underneath. I couldn’t get my head up. Fortunately my brother grabbed a boulder and swung into an eddy where he climbed up and saw my hand sticking out as I passed by. I found new respect for that shallow River. I never fish it without a life vest ever since.
 

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Don't any of you guys swim between the flags?

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I think you meant Rip currents run perpendicular to the shore so you want to swim parallel to shore to get out of one.


Perpendicular is the description used in the basic description.... since you made me check LOL. That really isn't right either... because it depends on the slope of the coastline.

The RIPs I see on the regular are on FL's Central Atlantic coastline. The slope of the coast here is extremely slight. You can be 15 to 20 miles offshore here and it's only 60 - 70 feet deep. Go down to the South FL Atlantic coast and it's 600 feet deep only 3 miles offshore. That plays a big part in the real direction of the RIP current. The steeper the slope, the RIP will angle out away from the shore more... the flatter slope I see here makes the RIPs almost run parallel to the shore. The current loses power as the water gets deeper in RIPs, so the ones that run kinda parallel to the shoreline are really more freaky and difficult to experience because they seem to last forever. The more they angel away from the shoreline... the faster the strength of the current ends.

What I really wanted to stress was that RIP currents all end in a dud... even though it will make you feel the opposite when you first get nabbed in one. None of them will take you out to sea.
 

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Yeah I have heard this story as well.

Supposedly there were two divers who came ashore a mile down from where Carroll drowned.

And it would not surprise me at all that this is 100% accurate.
Do you even know what beach,or location? Rumors are rumors
 

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Don't any of you guys swim between the flags?

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There is a lot more than flags that go into swimming anywhere.Knowledge & shape probably play the biggest part of it.
Example of Bones & Morris helping to save life’s.Have a good friend who is(bears) Rams fan that lifeguard’s at 60 plus years in LA.
 

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Do you even know what beach,or location? Rumors are rumors
Not off the top of my head - I would have to research it to even see if it is still out there

All I know is Carroll was swimming at a particular beach and after drowning two divers were supposedly seen coming to shore a mile down from where he drowned. Again - I stress the supposedly part but I wouldn't be surprised if it is true with Georgia being married to a mafia connected guy 6 months later
 

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He drowned on Golden Beach... (N Miami, Dade Cty).

It was reported in papers including the WSJ that a Canadian tourist saw what he described as a dark object under water right by Carroll moving away from him and against the direction of the current. This tourist apparently came up on the scene right after Carroll drowned.

And yes... there were divers spotted exiting the water less than a mile down the beach not long after the whole thing went down.
 

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There is a lot more than flags that go into swimming anywhere.

but for people that aren't experts in spotting rips, or great swimmers, between the flags is their safest and probably only option to enjoy the beach without killing themselves.

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Not off the top of my head - I would have to research it to even see if it is still out there

All I know is Carroll was swimming at a particular beach and after drowning two divers were supposedly seen coming to shore a mile down from where he drowned. Again - I stress the supposedly part but I wouldn't be surprised if it is true with Georgia being married to a mafia connected guy 6 months later

if the old guy didn't give the team to her in his will it never would have happened. these old rich guys, why do they think young bimbos want to marry them?

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if the old guy didn't give the team to her in his will it never would have happened. these old rich guys, why do they think young bimbos want to marry them?

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He drowned on Golden Beach... (N Miami, Dade Cty).

It was reported in papers including the WSJ that a Canadian tourist saw what he described as a dark object under water right by Carroll moving away from him and against the direction of the current. This tourist apparently came up on the scene right after Carroll drowned.

And yes... there were divers spotted exiting the water less than a mile down the beach not long after the whole thing went down.

My parents read about it & it was a known rumor.She was disliked as a Rams Owner.Carroll was one of The Best Owners in the NFL.
Hacksaw Reynolds leaving to SF was the result of his death.Then the rest is history.
 

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Story about CR's Funeral Service:

When the memorial service finally did start, comedian Jonathan Winters, one of Carroll’s close friends, acted as master of ceremonies. Two vocalists sang Carroll’s favorite songs. NFL commentator Howard Cosell, star of Fantasy Island Ricardo Montalbán, and Hawaii Five-O regular Ross Martin were among those who delivered eulogies. Don Rickles performed his trademark off-color shtick. Some thought it was the perfect celebration of Carroll’s raucous spirit.

“I remember it as a thoughtful celebration of his life,” says Jon Hookstratten, whose father Ed became a close friend and attorney for the Rosenblooms after CR took over the Rams in 1972.

Others found the memorial too festive. NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle was asked to speak, but according to an NFL source, “shied away from the circus atmosphere.” Georgia’s stepson Steve, who worked alongside Carroll in the Rams organization, left early and was lessdiplomatic: “Georgia’s funeral for my father could have played Vegas for eight weeks.
 

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As a kid I was taught the "dead mans float" in swim class. You lay face down in the water with your arms outstretched in front of you with your hands side by side. Open palms facing down.
You simply push your hands down and your head up at the same time and take a breath.
You can do this for hours if the water is not too cold.
We all float.
 

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Also, as a reminder, there are sharks in them there waters. No thanks.
Only like 10% pose a threat to humans. Most are harmless and will swim off to avoid human contact when they figure out you're not a seal.
 

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Story about CR's Funeral Service:

Others found the memorial too festive. NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle was asked to speak, but according to an NFL source, “shied away from the circus atmosphere.” Georgia’s stepson Steve, who worked alongside Carroll in the Rams organization, left early and was lessdiplomatic: “Georgia’s funeral for my father could have played Vegas for eight weeks.
In fairness years later Steve Rosenbloom did comment that Georgia was a good wife to his dad, however, I think all of us would have preferred another owner. I was too young to appreciate Carroll Rosenbloom, would have loved to see how he handled the Rams in the Super Bowl.

I have to post that Georgia did a ton for charities and she got the John Robinson hire right when everybody else in the organization wanted to hire Darryl Rogers , but in 1992 Georgia went rogue again hiring Chuck Knox when everyone wanted Mike Holmgren.

Steve Rosenbloom did get a chance in New Orleans for a year or two before he was fired for Bum Phillips. So overall not sure how Steve would have done, but moving to Anaheim was a huge mistake even though I do think the city made some huge promises to CR and reneged on those once Georgia was overseeing things.
 

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Only like 10% pose a threat to humans. Most are harmless and will swim off to avoid human contact when they figure out you're not a seal.
I pretty much lived at the beach in the summers as a kid. My mom would drop us off at the beach in the mornings and we'd make our way back end of the day, and in my teens I spent quite a bit of time on a board off that Cali coast. Great whites you never heard too much about, but just the chance of it happening was terrifying. I'd sit my board sometimes out there in the early morning and think about those occasional stories, like the dude who got swallowed whole then spit out because it didn't like the taste of his wetsuit (he had tooth cuts down his back). That one happened when I was a kid but it does happen time to time and those lucky bastards live to tell the tale somehow.

Think if I got swallowed hole by a great white I'd probably die of fright. But again sharks are one of those things where percentages only make sense when you're comfortably viewing them on land. When you're out there in the water it's a different deal.