albefree69 said:
			
		
	
	
		
		
			
	
	
		
		
			Thordaddy watching the wrong media:
Well ya know if the media was  responsible they'd all be gay, cuz that's the only agenda I see being "pushed"
		
		
	 
Civil rights, climate change, sane drug policies, EPA, protection of all the constitutional amendments, protection of animals and species, reduction of crime, job creation and women's rights to name just a very few. If you watch the right media. Come on over to my house and you can see it on my TVs all day long (except when I'm napping). I'll provide the beer and pretzels.
Gotta step out of the box you're in and stretch your eyes and mind if the only agenda you're seeing pushed is LGBT rights. :ww:
		
 
		
	 
There is a difference between pushing an agenda and reporting on it Al,  your box ? I've  BEEN  IN the liberal box before, was FWIW  before you , WORE an All the Way With Alalai  iridescent campaign button to school. YUP that's right I was a Dem supporter in 1956 when Stephenson lost for the second time to Eisenhower.
So I've had those pretzels  and FYI they are stale the beer is flat ,the phylosophy is trite  and built around emotional satisfaction instead of  applicable solutions,that BTW is why discussions  turn angry,you can't disagree with people who  center their  belief in their self worth upon  their political positions, they just go back to intent instead of  results. 
NOW  back to the  REAL point of my post which was that the  media follows more than it leads, for ALL their belief that they do and arrogance about it  ,there was no Fox a short time ago they didn't lead people to believe  the side of the news they allegedly  taut  and report  they discovered there was  a huge segment of the population  who didn't agree with the liberal bent of the media. 
Today Fox is number one because people aren't  lead, they seek,Rush Limbaugh's success is not because he is some imagined Pied Piper as his detractors  proclaim, it is, as he has said  repeatedly, because he says what his listeners already think and want said.
Our culture leads the media  and if they don't give us what we want they go broke.
The "gay " comment was a metaphor AL ,for the fact that ESPN didn't cause  the culture , Aaron Hernandez and the rest of the NFL gun culture  didn't  materialize because someone with so little power you could shut them up by changing channels lead us anywhere. NO our government has unwittingly orchestrated this culture through inescapable policies backed by scads of  poorly conceived laws, billions upon billions of dollars  spent upon forceful  ,doomed to failure ,behavior modification.
Our government has done this by believing they could  change people by making a law. Laws don't govern ,they prescribe penalties ,fear of penalty governs. When desire overcomes fear,law fails,when desire is prompted by nature,law that ignores nature is bound to fail and ignorant  "governors" redouble their fanatic desire to change nature and the more  violent they become in their obsession the more violent the society will become in it's defiance. 
We've skirted race here and it's something that political correctness will always demand .
Here's the fact ,hockey and baseball don't  apparently have  the culture  football and  basketball do because  they are more predominantly white sports where skills have to be honed and fostered  young by interested adults  and the economic reality is that black kids  don't have the dads who help them .
I've watched it transpire over the years, it's the same in wrestling.
Football and basketball lend themselves to the family and cultural dynamics of black youth.
That alone would mean nothing , but then when you compound it with the  demographics of  prison occupancy  promulgated by the drug prohibition  you come up with an alarming  percentage of young black men who are ex cons so many it is almost hard to believe it isn't planned,big brother, dads uncles , fresh from prison on  mid to low level drug charges, unemployable because they dropped out of  HS and  have prison records, ready  cash if they go back in  "the trade" , "you always carry weapons  cuz you always carry cash" and the formula is  pretty well on auto pilot.
It has frankly become a near  right of passage in  ghetto thug life to  "pop your cherry" by being arrested for drugs.
Rush BTW is  way off the mark on this ,he's  pro prohibition but has indulged his own humanity in illegal drug commerce to the extent he needed cochlear implants,doesn't mean he doesn't have part of the answer,he just misses on where the seeds really get planted and  how to short circuit the whole thing if in deed we aren't beyond a tipping point.
I know someone  in another thread  said even with legalization there'll still be black markets, which is true  IF we are so imprudent as to let excess taxation become a de facto  re institution of prohibition,I recommend  reading the  prologue to  "The Fatal Shore"  ( the story of the Botany Bay colonists).
It's a mistake to politicize peoples  positions on this ,politics is how power brokers divide people but if I  can break from that for just  a  single post, most know I'm regarded as an arch conservative ,pretty well I'm guilty but JMO   few conservatives  are pure in their ideology when it comes to drugs, most are happy to see the  government intervene and try to save people from themselves in what I consider to be about as liberal a  use of government as  anything I've ever seen.
I don't blame anyone but Aaron Hernandez for what he did or is accused of, he was given choices ,I do blame  the people who made his choices too easily made wrong for not being honest with themselves about their part in the  whole.
Gotta get our heads out of our  arses here, the people who own AB don't shoot the people who own Jack Daniels ,but if beer and  whiskey were illegal  they'd still be shooting each other.