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PressureD41 said:
Nope.
7 Bob Waterfield
28 Marshall Faulk
29 Eric Dickerson
74 Merlin Olsen
75 Deacon Jones
78 Jackie Slater
80 Isaac Bruce
85 Jack Youngblood DE
Rookie Jersey Numbers
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Nope.
7 Bob Waterfield
28 Marshall Faulk
29 Eric Dickerson
74 Merlin Olsen
75 Deacon Jones
78 Jackie Slater
80 Isaac Bruce
85 Jack Youngblood DE
The practice of retiring numbers is stupid IMO. It's a team sport, when someone retires it should be next man up. Where does it end anyway, in 50 years we might need to start using 3 digits!
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ScotsRam said:
LOL - i was thinking the same thing, its almost like, sorry but you can't wear number XX - because he was great, and you're not going to be as good as him...
I'd much rather the discussion to be, right you're wearing number XX, don't let it down...
Slappy967 said:
All due respect, Rams fans are forever indebted to Kurt for what he did for STL for 3 years, but in my opinion it wasn't enough to merit a jersey retirement. Especially the way he left STL, nightmarish 2002 followed by a 5 turnover week 1 in 2003. Plus he spent less than half of his career in STL. Although the most important part of his career was in STL (2 league MVPs, SB Champion, SB MVP, etc.), I just think you have to sustain the greatness for more than just 3 years to merit a jersey retirement.
As for 80 & 28? Already retired. My guys I want to see have their jerseys retired are #81 & #39. Greatness, leadership, and consistency. 6 straight 1,300 yard seasons for Biggame & 8 straight 1K seasons for SJ
Kurt was in the STL longer then he was in NY or AZ? I blame the end of his tenure on the incomparably incompetent head coaching skills of Mike Martz. But I do agree 100% on #39 as that guy brought more class and heart to an organization that hardly deserved it then anyone.
Slappy967 said:
We may have differing opinions on the way Martz handled the Kurt situation, but I think he handled it very similarly to the way Harbaugh did with Smith & Kaep (although Kurt is much better than Smith). Did Harbaugh cause the injury to Alex Smith? No. Did cause the injuries to Kurt? No. It's not Mike's fault that Kurt became a turnover machine in 2002 & week 1 of 2003. He had to do what was best for his team in those 2 years. Marc Bulger gave the Rams a better chance to win on Sunday's as evidenced by his 6-1 record in 2002 and his 12-2 record in 2003. Contrast that with a 1-6 2002 and 0-2 2003 by Kurt. Was it tough to see the plight of a 2-time NFL MVP, 2-time NFC Champion, 1-time world champion, and ringmaster of the GSOT? Sure. But there was little indication that Kurt would dig himself out of the hole he had fallen into, and Mike wanted to go with what was more of a sure thing at the time in Bulger. And to an extent Mike was right. Kurt really didn't get back to being "Kurt" until 2008, although some might argue the year before.
That's the way it goes sometimes in the sport, unfortunately for the starter, and fortunately for some of the backups. Fans would have never known who Steve Young, Tom Brady, and even our own Kurt Warner were if it hadn't been for a few injuries. The coach takes the most heat initially, but they can look like a genius in the long run if it pans out. For Kurt unfortunately things came full circle in STL in 2004.
(Oh, and Kurt spent half of his career on teams OTHER than the Rams. 6 years in NYG/AZ, 6 in STL, 3 only 3 of which he played fully. '98: bench '02: in and out of lineup '03: bench (-wk 1 & wk 16).
I hate the idea of retiring numbers. Some are just cool to see like 7, 28, 80.
Now if they had an amazing career and went above and beyond...then yes, retire the number.
But just because they had a good-great career? Nah. Remember the player not the number. Add their name to the Ring of Honor.
Now if they had an amazing career and went above and beyond...then yes, retire the number.
But just because they had a good-great career? Nah. Remember the player not the number. Add their name to the Ring of Honor.
Angry Ram said:
39 & 81 imo should be retired. HOF caliber careers, great leaders & teammates, tremendous work ethic, well known for their work in the STL community during their careers in STL & still today. I think those 2 are legends and need to be rewarded for everything they have done in STL.
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SJ deserves it. Hope eventually they come to their senses and honor Torry too. As I said in my last post, most WRs are using numbers in the teens (also indicated above), so why not retire 81?
bluecoconuts said:
SJ deserves it. Hope eventually they come to their senses and honor Torry too. As I said in my last post, most WRs are using numbers in the teens (also indicated above), so why not retire 81?
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Maybe because Gilyard will think they retiring his number? He already said "It's great, I'm already seeing my number all over town" before the first preseason game.