Rodger Saffold wants to remain with the Rams

[dieterbrock]

Ryan Groy G 28 BUF
Eric Kush G 29 CHI

A couple of fan favorites right there.
Turned out we really didn’t miss out on much

 

[badnews]

Saffold has been a good player for the Rams, but Noteboom is on the roster and would like to see him begin his career at LG, before hopefully moving to LT in the future. Id move on from Saffold.

If we KNEW Noteboom can play better next year and stay healthy, maybe I would agree.
But Saffold is one of the leagues best guards, pro-bowls be damned.
He is a capable swing tackle for us as well.
Next year is already coming with questions at Center and our LT is no spring chicken either. Losing Saffold would weaken our line and IMO it's highly unlikely that they could maintain or improve the O-lines performance by letting him walk. To do that they would have to absolutely nail a mid-round draft pick or pay for it in FA. Those are resources I would rather see the team invest elsewhere.
I am excited about Noteboom but if he is to be Whitworths replacement and is practicing primarily at LT, I want him focusing squarely at that position. I know Kromer and most good OL coaches like positional flexibility but if we need to depend on him to protect Goffs backside, I don't want him thinking too much or "sliding over to tackle" after settling in at guard. Not if that's avoidable, anyway.

There's another reason, maybe it's only me but I think it's good when teams have some great veteran players that get drafted by, play their whole or damn near whole career and retire with that team. You need a few of those guys on your team, not just the stars at skill positions. It's rare now. If the Rams can afford keep him here longer, I see no reason for the big guy to go kick ass somewhere else when we could use him next year on our back-to-back Super Bowl run...

 

[Merlin]

He says right now that the hometown discount is acceptable due to knowing what he's got with the team and all. But he's going to be the top FA offensive lineman on the market. His offer on the market will be huge.

Can the Rams go high enough to where both sides are good? Hard to say but it's nice to hear him say he wants to remain a Ram. I had considered him a 100% departure in FA, now maybe it's 50% or whatever and I"ll take that, always have liked Rog.

 

[fearsomefour]

I think Saffold is in for at least a 3 year deal. Sully and Whit are probably gone along with Peter's and Suh. Plenty of room to resign Saffold with those departures.

I disagree about Whitworth being gone unless he retires.

 

[RamWoodie]

I disagree about Whitworth being gone unless he retires.

Well...I did use the word "probably" because I'm not sure of it. We know there are going to be moves made to free up money. Whit is going into his 13th year...and of course it depends on needs in the draft and FA.

 

[fearsomefour]

Well...I did use the word "probably" because I'm not sure of it. We know there are going to be moves made to free up money. Whit is going into his 13th year...and of course it depends on needs in the draft and FA.

I get what you're saying.
He's not what he was but he is stilll a very good player st a position of high value.

 

[Rams43]

Extending Saffold seems like a no brainer to me.

Let’s see...

He’s playing at an elite type level and is only 31 years old.

He’s been hinting that he will be reasonable in his salary demands and wants to stay.

We can afford him easily after pruning Barron, Suh, and Joyner.

A good to great OL is critical to the future success of McVay’s O.

Saffold has great value as a teammate and mentor beyond his on field results.

Whit and Sully will not be starters for much longer. Hell, Sully might be replaced as soon as these playoffs! So, how do you put a value on Saffold’s experience and leadership as Boom and Allen are phased in as starters? And remember, Blythe isn’t exactly a grizzled vet, himself.

And from Saffold’s pov, what better team and situation is out there for him in the entire NFL? He’s experienced the lows, why not enjoy the highs as he finishes his career?

Like I said, this is a no brainer and a win-win for both sides.

 

[RamWoodie]

We can afford him easily after pruning Barron, Suh, and Joyner

Not sure Joyner's a goner.

 

[dang]

Its no coincidence that replacing 6 starters on defense has contributed significantly to this year's defensive struggles. I would caution replacing more than Sullivan on the OL next year. I would also expect to see next year used to begin the transition from Whitworth to his successor.

 

[1maGoh]

We can afford him easily after pruning Barron, Suh, and Joyner

I don't mean to be a jerk, but where is the idea that we save money by letting Joyner and Suh go coming from? They already aren't on the payroll next year. We don't see anything by letting them go. We're not even letting them go. As of right now they're gone next year. We have to replace them with somebody, even if it's themselves.

No money saved. Whatever we do at those positions will cost us money on what we have on the cap next year.

 

[BonifayRam]

Not sure Joyner's a goner.

LaMarcus Joyner
Calculated Market Value as a Free Agent:
$10.6M Avg. Annual Salary

• Five yrs , $53,247,260
  
  • Avg. Salary: $10,649,452
  • NFL Rank: 97
  • FS Rank: 3

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/lamarcus-joyner-14450/market-value/


Maybe you may want to think about that again with this well known information out there in the market RamWoodie, how many $$$$ franchised Rams has Snead resigned since 2012?

 

[RamWoodie]

LaMarcus Joyner
Calculated Market Value as a Free Agent:
$10.6M Avg. Annual Salary

• Five yrs , $53,247,260
  
  • Avg. Salary: $10,649,452
  • NFL Rank: 97
  • FS Rank: 3

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/lamarcus-joyner-14450/market-value/


Maybe you may want to think about that again with this well known information out there in the market RamWoodie, how many $$$$ franchised Rams has Snead resigned since 2012?

My bad!!! I completely forgot Joyner was franchised...:sleepz:

He's done because that's certainly some savings and there's gonna be good prospects out there come draft and FA.

 

[Ramrocket]

I don't mean to be a jerk, but where is the idea that we save money by letting Joyner and Suh go coming from? They already aren't on the payroll next year. We don't see anything by letting them go. We're not even letting them go. As of right now they're gone next year. We have to replace them with somebody, even if it's themselves.

No money saved. Whatever we do at those positions will cost us money on what we have on the cap next year.

I think the savings are implied in that their replacements won't cost anywhere in the vicinity of what we are paying Suh and Joyner now.

 

[Corbin]

I remember Saffold drafted in the 2nd round in 2010 after Bradford. Went from Spags's horrific losing seasons to Fisher's 7-9 bs to McVay's winning culture.

Yeah he's definitely seen it all

Can’t even fathom back to that draft. Seems so much longer ago tbh! Lol life’s been crazy these last 10 years!

 

[Rams43]

I don't mean to be a jerk, but where is the idea that we save money by letting Joyner and Suh go coming from? They already aren't on the payroll next year. We don't see anything by letting them go. We're not even letting them go. As of right now they're gone next year. We have to replace them with somebody, even if it's themselves.

No money saved. Whatever we do at those positions will cost us money on what we have on the cap next year.

You’re not coming across as a jerk at all, man. Quite the contrary.

Money that was being spent on Suh, Barron, and Joyner could then be spent on other, and more productive players, 1maGoh. Players like Saffold.

In that very real sense the cap dollars will be available. Let’s don’t overthink this.

 

[1maGoh]

You’re not coming across as a jerk at all, man. Quite the contrary.

Money that was being spent on Suh, Barron, and Joyner could then be spent on other, and more productive players, 1maGoh. Players like Saffold.

In that very real sense the cap dollars will be available. Let’s don’t overthink this.

I think what's getting me is mentioning them and Barron in the same sentence, as if it's the same situation. We save money by moving on from Barron.

It's not the same for Joyner and Suh. We can't move on from them because they aren't under contract. And we still have to pay someone else to do their job, be so it's not really saving money so much as it's hoping we don't have to pay someone else next year similar to what they are this year.

Saffold isn't under contact next year, so why don't we use the money we "saved" from not having him on the books next year to sign him? Then we have all the money we "save" from Suh and Joyner leaving to sign their replacements. But it doesn't work like that.

 

[Rmfnlt]

Can’t even fathom back to that draft. Seems so much longer ago tbh! Lol life’s been crazy these last 10 years!

Man, I remember how Saffold was the whipping boy on a past board. He was injury-prone but, most of all, he was drafted by Spagvaney. "Scaffold" is what I think many called him.

I'm very glad he's become a much more reliable player and his play alone has proven he was a good choice after all.

I'd like him to stay but I think what @BonifayRam provided is so important... the market will be his!

Guess we'll have to see how badly he does want to stay on the Rams... the temptation looks like it will be significant.

 

[OldSchool]

I think what's getting me is mentioning them and Barron in the same sentence, as if it's the same situation. We save money by moving on from Barron.

It's not the same for Joyner and Suh. We can't move on from them because they aren't under contract. And we still have to pay someone else to do their job, be so it's not really saving money so much as it's hoping we don't have to pay someone else next year similar to what they are this year.

Saffold isn't under contact next year, so why don't we use the money we "saved" from not having him on the books next year to sign him? Then we have all the money we "save" from Suh and Joyner leaving to sign their replacements. But it doesn't work like that.

They aren’t the same exact situation but if we don’t resign them technically we’re moving on from them.

 

[1maGoh]

They aren’t the same exact situation but if we don’t resign them technically we’re moving on from them.

Right. We'd be moving on, but not getting any extra cap money. If we release Barron, we get more cap money.

And I'll ask my last question again because it gets directly to my point about the logic of these statements. If Saffold is not under contract for next year, just like Suh and Joyner, why can't we use the "savings" from him not being on the roster next year to sign him and use the "savings" from the other two for someone else?

In case you don't feel like answering, it's because these mythical savings don't exist. If you did feel like answering, I'm sorry for stealing your spotlight before you could say, "Because those mythical savings don't exist."

 

[Prime Time]

That was a strange series of events when Saffold went to the Raiders and ended up back with the Rams.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/201...d-fails-physical-with-raiders-returns-to-rams

Rodger Saffold fails physical with Raiders, returns to Rams on five-year deal
By CHRIS BURKE

Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images

On Tuesday, offensive lineman Rodger Saffold agreed to a five-year, $42.5 million deal with the Oakland Raiders. A little more than 24 hours later, he was back with the St. Louis Rams on a separate five-year contract after failing his physical in Oakland.

In what has been a frantic and often bizarre open to the NFL's free-agent period, Saffold's story may take the cake. The Raiders initially handed him a reported $21 million guaranteed, only to bail after a medical check revealed a shoulder issue, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported.

Schefter called the failed physical a "disagreement" -- Saffold and his camp arguing that he was healthy; the Raiders obviously pushing back. But the Rams did not hesitate at all to lock Saffold back up once Oakland put the kibosh on its deal.

Saffold has missed a total of 17 games over the past three seasons while dealing with myriad injuries -- head, shoulder and knee ailments among them. Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie still chased him hard in free agency at the expense of former Oakland tackle Jared Veldheer, who signed with Arizona on Tuesday after McKenzie opted not to use the franchise tag on him earlier.

The failed physical meant that Saffold was a free agent again for the briefest of moments.