Robert Quinn

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Is it crazy for me to think this guy may be the most underrated player on the Rams?

I mean, think about it, we all know how important pass rush is, and how many sacks the Rams had last year.

Well, here's a guy, 23 years old, keying all of that pass rush at the most important spot (RDE) who reached double digit sacks last season and seems to only be getting better.

Yet it seems like people are hardly ever talking about him. Not just here, or on other Ram boards or in the local media, but national media too.

Am I crazy?
 
Yeah - unfortunately he won't get any credit unless the Rams make a big push this season. If he has another double digit sack year he will be hard to ignore though. He definitely has some areas to work on - like containment but I think he has great upside and will continue to improve. The other problem is that there are some pretty damn good DEs in the NFC and in particular the NFC West.
 
I think he's on the edge of a pro bowl caliber player.. but no one really knows about him. Hopefully he can make some noise this season.
 
He will be our sack leader this season. And then I will quote Biggie Smalls. "If ya dont know, now ya know".
 
He's just overlooked because of the other DE we have on our team.
 
iBruce said:
He's just overlooked because of the other DE we have on our team.
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IKR!! Hayes always gets all the attention!
 
I wouldn't use the word underrated. He's not really achieved anything significant, particularly when considering his draft status.

If this is the best Robert Quinn we get, he's just a good player - nothing more.

Now... I will add to your thought... he's potentially overlooked right now (thank you iBruce). Like biggame; I think he'll lead the team in sacks this year. Additionally, I think he's about to go off and make a name for himself.

The light is about to come on for Mr. Quinn.
 
CGI_Ram said:
I wouldn't use the word underrated. He's not really achieved anything significant, particularly when considering his draft status.

If this is the best Robert Quinn we get, he's just a good player - nothing more.

Now... I will add to your thought... he's potentially overlooked right now (thank you iBruce). Like biggame; I think he'll lead the team in sacks this year. Additionally, I think he's about to go off and make a name for himself.

The light is about to come on for Mr. Quinn.
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Hmm. Seems to me like when you factor in his age and experience level, IMO the light has been on, it's just getting brighter. Ranked 17th in the NFL in sacks with 10.5, more sacks than Abraham, Avril, Suh (cough, cough) last season at 22 seems a sight better than good in my book.
 
I am of the opposite opinion from you. Quinn is overrated with most Ram fans. For a DE to have so much speed quickness and ability to reach the QB.....but much a one trick pony .....he gets beat so badly on a regular basis on outside containment? Give me William Hayes or Eugene Sims instead. Just me he needs to be so much more to be effective in his all around play.
 
CGI_Ram said:
I wouldn't use the word underrated. He's not really achieved anything significant, particularly when considering his draft status.

If this is the best Robert Quinn we get, he's just a good player - nothing more.

Now... I will add to your thought... he's potentially overlooked right now (thank you iBruce). Like biggame; I think he'll lead the team in sacks this year. Additionally, I think he's about to go off and make a name for himself.

The light is about to come on for Mr. Quinn.
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Very likely scenario and it's going to be a wicked DL.

Think of the Giants DL for the recent several year stretch. They had 3 or 4 guys every year that could eff up plays and would give you a lot of QB hurries and 8-14 sacks a year. When you have 3 or 4 of those guys on your DL.....and it appears the Rams have 4 now.....you will get a lot of press and all of them will be known because they will all get on highlight reels. There will be a couple of games where they just destroy the pocket all game long and are totally dominant and SportCenter will be showing them off. They'll be no secret by week 6 next year.

Especially to DCs and QBs.
 
BonifayRam opined:
I am of the opposite opinion from you. Quinn is overrated with most Ram fans. For a DE to have so much speed quickness and ability to reach the QB.....but much a one trick pony .....he gets beat so badly on a regular basis on outside containment? Give me William Hayes or Eugene Sims instead. Just me he needs to be so much more to be effective in his all around play.
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I'm leaning towards your position on his skills. He doesn't seem like a three down player to me. Up til now. If he turns out to be only a 3rd down pass rusher he'll be very valuable to us and still might lead the Rams in sacks. I'll be very disappointed though.
 
albefree69 said:
BonifayRam opined:
I am of the opposite opinion from you. Quinn is overrated with most Ram fans. For a DE to have so much speed quickness and ability to reach the QB.....but much a one trick pony .....he gets beat so badly on a regular basis on outside containment? Give me William Hayes or Eugene Sims instead. Just me he needs to be so much more to be effective in his all around play.
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I'm leaning towards your position on his skills. He doesn't seem like a three down player to me. Up til now. If he turns out to be only a 3rd down pass rusher he'll be very valuable to us and still might lead the Rams in sacks. I'll be very disappointed though.
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+1

I also am of the opinion that he is a "one trick pony". All too often fans fall in love with "stats" and see him with double digit sacks and just project that in their evaluation of a player.

IMO, William Hayes was, and IS, a much more valuable part of the rotation on this D-Line. Quinn, unless and until he develops some consistent habits in defending the run, will continue to be a "pass rush specialist" and NOT an every down type of player. He struggles with containment, continually taking himself out of most plays by just pinning his ears back and not "reading" any keys. He doesn't pose any threat when they run to his side, because he gets so deep, that he over runs the ball carrier more time than not.

Until he demonstrates the ability to get as deep as the ball, and close down on the ball carrier/QB, teams will continue to exploit his lack of discipline. That is why, IMO, Quinn's snaps were limited once the coaches settled on an early down rotation that featured Hayes much more than Quinn.
 
CoachO said:
Until he demonstrates the ability to get as deep as the ball, and close down on the ball carrier/QB, teams will continue to exploit his lack of discipline. That is why, IMO, Quinn's snaps were limited once the coaches settled on an early down rotation that featured Hayes much more than Quinn.
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Okay... I'm on my mobile and limited access to data to dispute this... But if my memory serves me right; he didn't lose any snaps. See attached linkage.

I get the criticism on containment, but I need to defend this topic a little. I think this link is a good read for some;

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://ramsondemand.com/viewtopic.php?t=14694Very" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?t=14694Very</a> long article/analysis of Robert Quinn



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CGI_Ram said:
Okay... I'm on my mobile and limited access to data to dispute this... But if my memory serves me right; he didn't lose any snaps. See attached linkage.

I get the criticism on containment, but I need to defend this topic a little. I think this link is a good read for some;

<a class="postlink" href="http://ramsondemand.com/viewtopic.php?t=14694Very" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://ramsondemand.com/viewtopic.php?t=14694Very</a> long article/analysis of Robert Quinn
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All true CGI. IMO the amount of snaps was high.....lets see early injuries to DT's our starter Brockers (unhealthy until the bye) & 4th DT Conrath (all season) placed high snapps on reserve DE's Sims & Williams. Then when Brockers got healthy DE Simms went out for 7 weeks. Langford suffered a shoulder injury too that he played with due to necessitate for over a month! So the Rams healthy DL rotation was strained all season. Fisher could hardly field a healthy DL! Who would Quinn lose snaps too? :idk:

I was livid during the games last season in the chatrooms in my past last Ram forum & could not help myself finding my eyes fall directly on Quinn way too much due to my disappointment with his meandering outside run play over and over again if it were not for Hayes & Langford good efforts playing to his left we would have had some serious bigger runs. He lacks basic fundamental run reading abilities at this time.
 
I don't mean to insinuate that he doesn't have a place and will have a big role in this defensive line rotation. I'm merely stating that his sack total notwithstanding isn't a true indicator of his overall play. He needs to get stronger. And be a more complete player before I'll consider him as a ProBowl kind of talent.
 
CoachO said:
I don't mean to insinuate that he doesn't have a place and will have a big role in this defensive line rotation. I'm merely stating that his sack total notwithstanding isn't a true indicator of his overall play. He needs to get stronger. And be a more complete player before I'll consider him as a ProBowl kind of talent.
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I am with you Quinn place in the defense is critical to becoming a great defense. When you watch Quinn from the snap of the ball he is the last DL off the line but his quick steps is off the charts he can fly into the backfield faster than Little could...in fact I do not know if we have ever had a DE speeder like Quinn in decades. Kevin Green type pass rusher but Quinn just does not handle the runs in the same fashion as a little or a Kevin Green did.

I should also say that Quinn has a concussion injury himself a strange even back on Nov. 25th, 2012 during the Az game when he went through the entire game without making any plays or any stats against a very super weak OLT ,Quinn struggled bigtime! The following game against the 9ers he had zero in stats again. By wk 10 Quinn had 8.5 sacks & 22 tacks ...the next 48 days and the end of the season Quinn only managed 2 sacks & 7 tacks :zomg1:
 
I dunno guys. He missed his final year of college and was a part time player in his rookie season. Of course he can get better (scary thought), but for a guy who really played his first full season last year, I'd say he's moving at a damn fine pace.
 
Warner4Prez reminded us:
I dunno guys. He missed his final year of college and was a part time player in his rookie season. Of course he can get better (scary thought), but for a guy who really played his first full season last year, I'd say he's moving at a damn fine pace.
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Great point. I'd completely forgotten about that.
 
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