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I clipped these comments from ExtremeSkins.com:
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I'm at the point where I have to hope RG III does pan out but I think his value is currently in the red compared to what we gave up for him. I'm a redskins fan first, an RG III fan...eh I don't know even know the numerical value because it is arbitrary, because no guy can be bigger then the team. I want him to succeed but I don't know if he will under this regime. They still have a bad O-line and the defense is a joke this season. Special teams is a joke...they're just going to all make it more difficult for RG III to justify his value. I'd like to see another miraculous run like last year...but that is a lot to ask of him. Frankly unfair too, but right now RG III isn't playing all that...."great" and maybe not even good. He brought the maelstrom of criticism on himself by his retarded campaign to comeback by opening day and needs to suffer for it, it'll do him good down the line.
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He's playing badly. You can't call anything he's been doing good. Been watching a lot of other teams lately, and even guys like Pryor and Thad are playing better than RG3. There aren't very many QB's in the league right now that have several passes a game (and RG3 has every game this year) that are high or there's no receiver even close.
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Luck would not succeed behind this line.
Wilson would not succeed behind this line
Tannehill would not succeed behind this line.
Weeden sure as **** would not succeed behind this line.
I'm not sure what we have, to be honest. But I know not to pine for anything else yet.
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I just hope the fans and coaching staff don't have blind love for RG3. Because he has flaws that must be addressed and has not been playing well.
Ftr I'm a RG3 supporter. He needs to play.
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he needs to suffer for making a campaign out of it and then being unable to deliver. You want the weight of the franchise, you better be able to carry it. He hasn't been able to for a plethora of reasons, some his fault some not. He'll get better but my hope is the adversity makes him stronger, he needs to be humbled.
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I agree with you in part. The part that this adversity will make him a better player. Im almost positive he has been humbled by the NFL and the fans by now.
I just did not get the feeling that RG3 was making a media campaign out of his recovery from surgery although he didnt shy away from any cameras. I have to give him a pass on it either way. He is a young man 22 years old, he is still recovering from a massive injury. We the fans have put even more weight on his shoulders.
Im convinced he will get his entire physical and mental game back together sooner rather then later. IMHO
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No. There is no way I can possibly agree that this production can ever be classified was "played well":
19/39 (48.7%) 246yards 0TDs 1int 1 lost fumble 58.3rating
That is a absolutely dreadful night for a QB. RG3 looked as good as we've seen running the ball but as a passer he had a terrible night.
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I still think he can be a great QB, maybe elite (although I wouldn't be surprised if Bridgewater, Mariota and Boyd turned out better then him). I don't think he'll ever be physically what he was, but its on him to be a more cerebral player. There is reason to hope, but not enough to hope blindly IMO.
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RG was simply not a good passer last night. All he did was throw lasers, and not very accurately. He's not hitting his receivers in stride anymore. Even when he had time, there was no touch on anything.
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Besides the fact that he couldn't hit anyone in stride, he missed badly on throws for more than 15 yards, lacked pocket awareness, held the ball way too long, locked to his primary receiver (btw this is probably one of the main reasons why the D could clamp down on that receiver because they were reading him), yea he will be ok.
Get a clue people so far RGIII has played against some of the worse Ds in the league, and has not been able to get this offense going when it mattered.
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I'd have to agree with this. We mortgaged a good part of the future for RG3, and I'm not sure he was worth that big of a price at this point. Football is still a TEAM game.
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RG3 is a QB in development. I hope he realizes that. He has a lot to learn and he is pretty far from where he needs to be.
Right now he is a fast guy that can throw the ball pretty well and as long as there is only one or two reads he is OK. He accuracy has gone way down this year, he is holding the ball too long, and just not playing the QB position well.
He will need to work just as hard on developing the ability to read defenses, slide in the pocket, anticipate people getting open, and throwing people open as he did in the physical workouts on his knee. Then he will be at the next level.
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I'll give him a pass for the first four games since it took the place of his preseason. Last night he was more mobile but he is still trying to throw without firmly planting his feet. Let's hope over time his body memory will kick in and he'll get back to his old self. I'm not giving up just yet but If the season is lost, we may want to look at what we have in Capt Kirk before the end of the year.
<a class="postlink" href="http://es.redskins.com/topic/371548-i-still-like-rg3-the-best/page-6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://es.redskins.com/topic/371548-i-s ... est/page-6</a>
I'm at the point where I have to hope RG III does pan out but I think his value is currently in the red compared to what we gave up for him. I'm a redskins fan first, an RG III fan...eh I don't know even know the numerical value because it is arbitrary, because no guy can be bigger then the team. I want him to succeed but I don't know if he will under this regime. They still have a bad O-line and the defense is a joke this season. Special teams is a joke...they're just going to all make it more difficult for RG III to justify his value. I'd like to see another miraculous run like last year...but that is a lot to ask of him. Frankly unfair too, but right now RG III isn't playing all that...."great" and maybe not even good. He brought the maelstrom of criticism on himself by his retarded campaign to comeback by opening day and needs to suffer for it, it'll do him good down the line.
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He's playing badly. You can't call anything he's been doing good. Been watching a lot of other teams lately, and even guys like Pryor and Thad are playing better than RG3. There aren't very many QB's in the league right now that have several passes a game (and RG3 has every game this year) that are high or there's no receiver even close.
--
Luck would not succeed behind this line.
Wilson would not succeed behind this line
Tannehill would not succeed behind this line.
Weeden sure as **** would not succeed behind this line.
I'm not sure what we have, to be honest. But I know not to pine for anything else yet.
--
I just hope the fans and coaching staff don't have blind love for RG3. Because he has flaws that must be addressed and has not been playing well.
Ftr I'm a RG3 supporter. He needs to play.
--
he needs to suffer for making a campaign out of it and then being unable to deliver. You want the weight of the franchise, you better be able to carry it. He hasn't been able to for a plethora of reasons, some his fault some not. He'll get better but my hope is the adversity makes him stronger, he needs to be humbled.
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I agree with you in part. The part that this adversity will make him a better player. Im almost positive he has been humbled by the NFL and the fans by now.
I just did not get the feeling that RG3 was making a media campaign out of his recovery from surgery although he didnt shy away from any cameras. I have to give him a pass on it either way. He is a young man 22 years old, he is still recovering from a massive injury. We the fans have put even more weight on his shoulders.
Im convinced he will get his entire physical and mental game back together sooner rather then later. IMHO
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No. There is no way I can possibly agree that this production can ever be classified was "played well":
19/39 (48.7%) 246yards 0TDs 1int 1 lost fumble 58.3rating
That is a absolutely dreadful night for a QB. RG3 looked as good as we've seen running the ball but as a passer he had a terrible night.
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I still think he can be a great QB, maybe elite (although I wouldn't be surprised if Bridgewater, Mariota and Boyd turned out better then him). I don't think he'll ever be physically what he was, but its on him to be a more cerebral player. There is reason to hope, but not enough to hope blindly IMO.
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RG was simply not a good passer last night. All he did was throw lasers, and not very accurately. He's not hitting his receivers in stride anymore. Even when he had time, there was no touch on anything.
--
Besides the fact that he couldn't hit anyone in stride, he missed badly on throws for more than 15 yards, lacked pocket awareness, held the ball way too long, locked to his primary receiver (btw this is probably one of the main reasons why the D could clamp down on that receiver because they were reading him), yea he will be ok.
Get a clue people so far RGIII has played against some of the worse Ds in the league, and has not been able to get this offense going when it mattered.
--
I'd have to agree with this. We mortgaged a good part of the future for RG3, and I'm not sure he was worth that big of a price at this point. Football is still a TEAM game.
--
RG3 is a QB in development. I hope he realizes that. He has a lot to learn and he is pretty far from where he needs to be.
Right now he is a fast guy that can throw the ball pretty well and as long as there is only one or two reads he is OK. He accuracy has gone way down this year, he is holding the ball too long, and just not playing the QB position well.
He will need to work just as hard on developing the ability to read defenses, slide in the pocket, anticipate people getting open, and throwing people open as he did in the physical workouts on his knee. Then he will be at the next level.
--
I'll give him a pass for the first four games since it took the place of his preseason. Last night he was more mobile but he is still trying to throw without firmly planting his feet. Let's hope over time his body memory will kick in and he'll get back to his old self. I'm not giving up just yet but If the season is lost, we may want to look at what we have in Capt Kirk before the end of the year.
