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Mojo Ram

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I took the '01 Rams team because despite teams having plenty of film on how to stop Martz' offense after the '99 SB win, the '01 team still went 14-2 with a more difficult schedule. Teams gameplanned and still couldn't stop it.
 

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Offense v Defense
OLine v Skill positions
Pocket Only passers
v Dual Threats
Running game v Passing game
Zone blocking v Power Blocking
Spread v Play Action
Risk/Reward players v Safe players
Speed v Power
Youth v Vets
Production v Potential
Pass rush v Coverage
Great coaching v Great Players
Smart v Athletic
Proven methods v Innovation
Win now v Long range
Safety v Aggressive Entertainment
Players Coach
v Disciplinarian
Character v Talent
Sex v Football
Aggressive v Wise
Rudy v Lawrence Phillips before you knew he couldn't rehabilitate
Indoor Stadium v Outdoor
Div II College Production v SPARQ
LA v St Louis
Blue & White/ Old Gold/ Modern Look
Niners v Pats
Old School v Next Gen
More Replay
/ No Replay
As an Owner: Money v Loyalty
99 Rams
v 01 Rams: who wins the game

If I didn't highlight a choice, it's because I prefer an even balance between the two.

Everyone prefers both. The hard questions were the whole point of the thread
 

Mojo Ram

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hey offensive teams win super bowls too, you don't have to win the boring way.
You would make an outstanding Phoenix Suns fan. Minus expecting championships of course. Just sayin. :whistle:
 

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I'm having a really hard time with this one. Because on so many issues ... I think you need to either have balance or at least be willing to change up now and then.
 

leoram

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Absolutely. Love Steely Dan. Saw them once in 93. They were excellent as expected. Now the real question is(before we hijack this thread completely), who would make the better head coach? :sneaky:

I'm in agreement with Jeff Fisher's basic philosophy of emphasizing defense over everything else. Injuries over the last few seasons however have thrown a kink into his plans. What I don't care for is the sloppiness and the lack of discipline that has led to unnecessary penalties and cost us more than a few wins.

1. Run the ball
2. Terrorize the opposing QB while stopping the run
3. Have excellent special teams
4. Play with discipline



Say what? :confused:

I'm curious how you recognized my avatar.

Aggressive philosophy mitigates "unsloppy" play.

Your philosophy most mirrors that of Fisher than others here at ROD
 

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I'm curious how you recognized my avatar.

Because I'm a musician who loves Steely Dan.

Aggressive philosophy mitigates "unsloppy" play.

Your philosophy most mirrors that of Fisher than others here at ROD

Except for the lack of discipline which drives me nuts. You can be aggressive with your playing style yet still play in control. I thought Fisher had finally had enough of the goofy penalties when he got rid of the ST linebacker(who's name escapes me) but it continues on. It's one of the things about our coach that continues to baffle me.
 

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I took the '01 Rams team because despite teams having plenty of film on how to stop Martz' offense after the '99 SB win, the '01 team still went 14-2 with a more difficult schedule. Teams gameplanned and still couldn't stop it.

I figure the '01 team would've been favored but the '99 team may well have won.

Oh, and those games in '00 before Warner went down were probably the zenith of the GSOT offense. It was unreal, as i'm sure you well know...
 
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Just my preference guys. Isn't that what this thread is about? A team has to score more points than their opponent. That's a given. But teams have won championships without a high-octane offense.

Absolutely.

But since you were equating boring with winning (somewhat in jest i know), i just thought i'd point out that for us Rams fans, the opposite has been true. Our most exciting teams were our winningest teams and our really good boring teams never quite got the job done...
 

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My philosophy is for the fans to stop listening to moronic gossip columnist's like Jason LaCanfora and to learn to realize that the game starts in the trenches.
 

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I want an offense like the 2TE Skins O under Gibbs. Play action pass & run O.
Always loved Fishers DEF since 91 LA Rams D. Ultra aggressive is a must.

Like to build through the draft
Add a piece here & there through Free Agency ala Packers
Prefer the currently model of pay as you go; it gives you best flexibility if you need to create cap space.
Power O (play action) over finesse O (or spread)
Secondary that w/ lay the wood ala #32 Toby Wright
Running Back than be a 3 down player but can run over you if need be.
Pocket Passer over running QB
Great D over Great O
 

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I see a lot of coaching in liu of QB....is Belichick a great QB because of Brady? Or is it the other way around?
If I had to guess I'd say they are both great, but it might be more Belichick than Brady. As an example, look at when Brady was hurt; he basically made Matt Cassel into a Pro-Bowler type
 

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If I had to guess I'd say they are both great, but it might be more Belichick than Brady. As an example, look at when Brady was hurt; he basically made Matt Cassel into a Pro-Bowler type
Yea, I kinda feel ya....But not sure exactly what happened in the playoffs that year? I'd guess, they won 11 games,but missed the playoffs...But that's just a guess....
 

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Offense v Defense
OLine
v Skill positions
Pocket Only passers v Dual Threats
Running game v Passing game
Zone blocking
v Power Blocking
Spread v Play Action
Risk/Reward players v Safe players
Speed v Power
Youth
v Vets
Production v Potential
Pass rush v Coverage
Great coaching v Great Players
Smart
v Athletic
Proven methods v Innovation
Win now v Long range
Safety v Aggressive Entertainment
Players Coach v Disciplinarian
Character v Talent
Sex & Football

Aggressive v Wise
Indoor Stadium v Outdoor
Div II College Production
v SPARQ
Royal Blue/Yellow
Old School v Next Gen
More Replay/ No Replay
As an Owner: Money v Loyalty
99 Rams v 01 Rams: who wins the game
 

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The choices we make in life tend to reflect our core philosophies. The Rams are about to make significant choices, but since we have to wait for theirs, I wish to poll yours.

The following is a profile. It helps us clarify our understanding of each other as fans. In this dearth of new info, I thought this would be fun. There will be tough choices and you will want to qualify your responses. Nevertheless, it can be a time of reflection.
Just choose one over the other and see what kind of team you built. Most of the time you will want to say BOTH but it's not allowed in this game. You HAVE to choose one or the other. Hey, my thread...my rules.

Offense v Defense
OLine
v Skill positions
Pocket Only passers v Dual Threats
Running game v Passing game
Zone blocking v Power Blocking
Spread v Play Action
Risk/Reward players v Safe players
Speed v Power
Youth v Vets
Production
v Potential
Pass rush v Coverage
Great coaching v Great Players
Smart v Athletic
Proven methods v Innovation
Win now v Long range
Safety v Aggressive Entertainment
Players Coach v Disciplinarian
Character v Talent
Sex
v Football
Aggressive v Wise
Rudy v Lawrence Phillips before you knew he couldn't rehabilitate
Indoor Stadium v Outdoor
Div II College Production
v SPARQ
LA v St Louis
Blue & White
/ Old Gold/ Modern Look
Niners v Pats
Old School v Next Gen
More Replay
/ No Replay
As an Owner: Money v Loyalty
99 Rams v 01 Rams: who wins the game

BTW: I realize this is a cruel test, but we love a cruel game and think we can judge those who make it their careers so we should hold to a similar scrutiny. I actually called myself an AHole after asking many of the questions.
 

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First of all....
Sex v Football
Anyone that answers football to this needs some serious review of their life's priorities.

Offense v Defense

- I have a slight preference for D.......
* O has one goal...score.
* D has a primary goal...prevent the other team from scoring. BUT...they can score as well.

- Overall, I like games where the final score is something in the 27-24 range. Games that are 10-6 or 49-45 are equally boring. As a general rule of thumb, the 27-24 type games have usually had some good give & take on both sides of the ball.

- But only slightly less important than either O or D is Special Teams. ST can have a major impact on field position, scoring, AND putting the opposition in a position to not succeed. IMO, too few teams give ST the attention it deserves.

OLine v Skill positions
If you have a preference here, you're thinking too much. Every team needs both.

Pocket Only passers v Dual Threats
Running game v Passing game
Zone blocking v Power Blocking
Spread v Play Action
Risk/Reward players v Safe players
Speed v Power
Youth v Vets
Production v Potential

Pass rush v Coverage
Smart v Athletic
Proven methods v Innovation
Win now v Long range
Safety v Aggressive Entertainment
Players Coach v Disciplinarian
Character v Talent

Aggressive v Wise

Indoor Stadium v Outdoor
Old School v Next Gen


For all the above....
Who gives a fat rat's patooty. Win me an avg of 10 games per year, and I'm happy.


Great coaching v Great Players
Great players are great regardless of coaching. They may be greater with great coaching, 'but'......

Blue & White/ Old Gold/ Modern Look
None of the above. Give me the current blue with the old gold.
Sorry to the old, lifelong, Rams fans, but the blue & whites are a snooze fest.


Div II College Production v SPARQ

Production is always key, but measures such as SPARQ (as weakly as I understand them) probably should be a more significant factor in rating small school players.


Rudy v Lawrence Phillips before you knew he couldn't rehabilitate
LA v St Louis
Niners v Pats
More Replay/ No Replay
As an Owner: Money v Loyalty
99 Rams v 01 Rams: who wins the game


For all the above......Snore!!!!!
 

leoram

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First of all....
Sex v Football
Anyone that answers football to this needs some serious review of their life's priorities.

Offense v Defense

- I have a slight preference for D.......
* O has one goal...score.
* D has a primary goal...prevent the other team from scoring. BUT...they can score as well.

- Overall, I like games where the final score is something in the 27-24 range. Games that are 10-6 or 49-45 are equally boring. As a general rule of thumb, the 27-24 type games have usually had some good give & take on both sides of the ball.

- But only slightly less important than either O or D is Special Teams. ST can have a major impact on field position, scoring, AND putting the opposition in a position to not succeed. IMO, too few teams give ST the attention it deserves.

OLine v Skill positions
If you have a preference here, you're thinking too much. Every team needs both.

Pocket Only passers v Dual Threats
Running game v Passing game
Zone blocking v Power Blocking
Spread v Play Action
Risk/Reward players v Safe players
Speed v Power
Youth v Vets
Production v Potential

Pass rush v Coverage
Smart v Athletic
Proven methods v Innovation
Win now v Long range
Safety v Aggressive Entertainment
Players Coach v Disciplinarian
Character v Talent

Aggressive v Wise

Indoor Stadium v Outdoor
Old School v Next Gen


For all the above....
Who gives a fat rat's patooty. Win me an avg of 10 games per year, and I'm happy.


Great coaching v Great Players
Great players are great regardless of coaching. They may be greater with great coaching, 'but'......

Blue & White/ Old Gold/ Modern Look
None of the above. Give me the current blue with the old gold.
Sorry to the old, lifelong, Rams fans, but the blue & whites are a snooze fest.


Div II College Production v SPARQ

Production is always key, but measures such as SPARQ (as weakly as I understand them) probably should be a more significant factor in rating small school players.


Rudy v Lawrence Phillips before you knew he couldn't rehabilitate
LA v St Louis
Niners v Pats
More Replay/ No Replay
As an Owner: Money v Loyalty
99 Rams v 01 Rams: who wins the game


For all the above......Snore!!!!!

Snisher actually has to answer many of these boring questions with every personnel decision. Choosing between one or the other is a common problem. Sorry for the inconvenience
 

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I will be brief.
I want a soul-crushing running attack, with occasional pin point strikes downfield..
On Defense? I want the toughest defense in the NFL, and we are almost there.
There were games with Marshall Faulk, where the opposing defense was helpless in
stopping him....The same with Jerome Bettis, Eric Dickerson, Lawrence McCutcheon,
Cullen Bryant,, and SJAX
 

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Snisher actually has to answer many of these boring questions with every personnel decision. Choosing between one or the other is a common problem. Sorry for the inconvenience

Sorry, it didn't sink in to my dumbass it was meant to mimic what Snisher has to suss out. It wasn't an inconvenience. I thought it was rather amusing.

But I'll stick by the original statement....anyone that answers 'football' to the one question needs to review their priorities in life.

And I emphasize 'anyone' above because.....if Snisher has a suspect in front of them to whom they've put the question and get the 'football' answer, that's one less suspect they need to continue to evaluate. :)
 

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Defense (Only because defense wins championships; offense is more entertaining to me)
OLine (The game is won and lost in the trenches; skill positions are way cooler though)
Pocket Only passers (See Kurt Warner)
Passing game (See GSOT)
Zone blocking
Play Action
Risk/Reward players
Speed (Speed kills)
Vets (Crafty, experienced, in their prime)
Production
Pass rush (Fearsome)
Great coaching
Smart
Proven methods
Long range success
Aggressive
Disciplinarian
Talent
Sex v Football (Can't answer, I'm sure you can figure out why)
Aggressive
Rudy v Lawrence Phillips before you knew he couldn't rehabilitate (WHY?!)
Outdoor Stadium
Div II College Production
LA v St Louis (Doesn't really matter to me. Also wasn't born until they were in St. Louis)
Modern Look (One of my favorite looks was the 2001 away uniforms. Don't get me wrong, I love the classic blue and yellow, but I like our colors we have now. Also, bring back the gold pants!)
Niners v Pats (F***!)
Old School (Good old hard-nose, smash-mouth football. Also, I wish players still had sleeves on their jerseys.)
More Replay
As an Owner: Loyalty
01 Rams (They were better, but without the ring)