RamsWire Snap Counts Vs KC-NRC Only 13%

[1maGoh]

Peters is really working and not giving up. What more can u ask,

Less touchdowns given up. More pass breakups. More interceptions.

I don't have a huge problem with his play, by the way. I'm just saying, that's what more could be asked.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

PFF rates NRC 15th overall. Yet he hasn't seen the field much lately?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Obviously the answer to this mystery is that the Rams are a poorly coached 10-1 football team. Everyone knows NRC is better than our other options, so McVay and Phillips must be inexcusably choosing to play worse players like that bum Marcus Peters more and let the defense struggle because they dont care and dont know how or maybe its because they just like tick off Rams fans...

This 10-1 team is winning without much help from the Corners and Safeties. I don't think I'd be including that group when giving credit for the Rams current record. And I don't really see a problem with fans wondering how and why, especially when our highest rated corner is on the bench.
We all expected much more from this great Wade Phillips defense.

 

[badnews]

This 10-1 team is winning without much help from the Corners and Safeties. I don't think I'd be including that group when giving credit for the Rams current record. And I don't really see a problem with fans wondering how and why, especially when our highest rated corner is on the bench.
We all expected much more from this great Wade Phillips defense.

Well, I wasnt giving the secondary credit for our record, I was giving the credit to our Coaches, who are possibly, and "inexcusably", unaware of NRCs PFF grade dominance...

I have no problem with fans expecting more or wondering why our entire secondary has struggled.
My sarcasm was pointed at the notion that somehow the Rams coaches dont know who their own best players/matchups are.
Obviously they are super conscientious of all this stuff.

 

[Ram65]

The real mystery comes with Robey-Coleman. He played just 13 snaps, the third time in the last five games he’s played less than 30 percent of the defensive snaps. The Rams clearly liked the matchups with Hill and Shields better, but Robey-Coleman has played well this season. this is something to watch.

A good question for a report to ask......Why has NRC's snaps been low over that period of time?

He covers well but, also makes big tackles in the flat. Wouldn't he make a good short cover for Hill with help over the top?

I wonder if he is banged up a little bit. Would like to know what's going on.

 

[Ramstien]

I think we're going to see Everett and Ebukam getting more snaps after this game.

 

[Jacobarch]

You're barking up the wrong tree. I don't give a single crap what PFF's grades say. Let them disagree with me strongly. Marcus Peters is a better CB than Troy Hill. Troy Hill is a liability. Peters is like Janoris Jenkins early in his career. When he plays smart, he's a hell of a CB. When he plays selfish, stupid, and reckless, he hurts this team. He's been playing smarter of late.

And for the love of god, don't do that nonsense where you end an opinion with "Fact."

Haha you don't care about facts??? Fact is Hill has given up less TDs and less completion percentage than Peters. Of course you don't care about facts. You obciously have a boner for peters and that's fine but don't sit here and tell me that it's not a fact because it is. Stats are factual data

 

[Jacobarch]

NRC needs to be on the field more and Marqui Christian less. We run that weird nickel formation with 3 safeties at times and it hasnt been working. I hope with Talib coming back Wade goes to the drawing board to get things fixed.

Right??? Christian is terrrrrrrrrrible, he looks lost every time he's on the field. I don't get the love for him over NRC.

 

[shovelpass]

NRC needs to be on the field more and Marqui Christian less. We run that weird nickel formation with 3 safeties at times and it hasnt been working. I hope with Talib coming back Wade goes to the drawing board to get things fixed.

Agree about NRC. Judging from the snap counts and from earlier this season Christian comes in for Barron's LB slot not a DB.

 

[BonifayRam]

Right??? Christian is terrrrrrrrrrible, he looks lost every time he's on the field. I don't get the love for him over NRC.

From what I have seen Marqui Christian is not taking snaps from our Nickle corner NRC. MC has been taking snaps from Barron. Yes MC does play safety in certain situations usually is when safety LJ gets the assignment of covering a shorter slot WR. go rewatch the Saints gm too.

NRC needs to be on the field more and Marqui Christian less. We run that weird nickel formation with 3 safeties at times and it hasnt been working. I hope with Talib coming back Wade goes to the drawing board to get things fixed.

Most of Marqui Christian's snaps this season (which are up dramatically) have come from playing the Mark Barron position. Wade is trending that MC (Strong Safety) replaces MB (inside LB'er) on passing downs.

IMO MQ has done a much better job in tackling than MB has but he is not the future nor the answer for the Rams.

 

[I like Rams]

Stats don't lie, but it also doesn't factor who a CB is drawing in their numbers. Peters has been drawing top wideouts. Hill would have even worse numbers believe it or not, had he been in there as CB1.

Considering Hill doesnt cover top wide outs makes it a moot point to argue. Peters was the Chiefs #1 while he was there, and while he did make some gambles, the overall completion rating by wide outs he covered was 60, its now more than double that. Brees picked on Peters all day when we played the Saints just like Keenum picked on Hatfield last season, except Thomas put up over 200 yds. If Hill was the lesser corner, why not pick on Hill as well? Hill covers his man better than Peters does regardless of who they cover.

I forget the analyst, but i did read that Wade is asking much more of Peters than Reid did while in KC, also having to play Talibs veteran role seems to not be helping.

Hopefully this all gets sorted out during the bye when Talib gets back in the line up.

 

[1maGoh]

the overall completion percentage by wide outs he covered was 60%, its now more than double that.

Hold on. WRs that Peters covers are catching more than 120% of passes thrown to them?

Please explain how that works.

 

[I like Rams]

From what I have seen Marqui Christian is not taking snaps from our Nickle corner NRC. MC has been taking snaps from Barron. Yes MC does play safety in certain situations usually is when safety LJ gets the assignment of covering a shorter slot WR. go rewatch the Saints gm too.

Most of Marqui Christian's snaps this season (which are up dramatically) have come from playing the Mark Barron position. Wade is trending that MC (Strong Safety) replaces MB (inside LB'er) on passing downs.

IMO MQ has done a much better job in tackling than MB has but he is not the future nor the answer for the Rams.

yep, christian has not been playing NRC's position. He's been playing along side Joyner as a safety, and has been pretty decent IMO.

 

[I like Rams]

Hold on. WRs that Peters covers are catching more than 120% of passes thrown to them?

Please explain how that works.

The scale they use to grade the percentages isn't a 0-100% scale. Its also a passer rating grade, more than just purely looking at catches to noncatches.

 

[1maGoh]

The scale they use to grade the percentages isn't a 0-100% scale.

That wasn't nearly enough.

How the hell do you not grade completion percentage on more than a 0% to 100% scale? It's completion percentage. What percent of passes did you catch? You can't catch more pass than thrown to you. Not possible. Who is doing this statistical analysis?

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[I like Rams]

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That wasn't nearly enough.

How the hell do you not grade completion percentage on more than a 0% to 100% scale? It's completion percentage. What percent of passes did you catch? You can't catch more pass than thrown to you. Not possible. Who is doing this statistical analysis?

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I updated it to explain a little more. Im not good at math at all, but I know you can grade percentages on more than just a 0-100% scale when looking at a combination of analysis that needs to be taken into account. Bc a 0-100% scale is too simplistic of a scale to represent everything being taken into account. PFF is the source.

 

[I like Rams]

Correction 1maGoh, i see the confusion. I wrote percentage when I meant rating. My B. Ill edit the original post to avoid anyone else confusion. Lol

 

[jrry32]

Haha you don't care about facts??? Fact is Hill has given up less TDs and less completion percentage than Peters. Of course you don't care about facts. You obciously have a boner for peters and that's fine but don't sit here and tell me that it's not a fact because it is. Stats are factual data

No, I don't care about "facts." Troy Hill draws the worst WR and still gets burnt. I obviously have a "boner" for the guy who actually can be a good/great CB, not the guy who is a liability. Stats are facts. Your conclusion that Hill is a better CB is an opinion. Your conclusion that Peters is our worst CB is an opinion. Neither are facts.

 

[1maGoh]

I updated it to explain a little more. Im not good at math at all, but I know you can grade percentages on more than just a 0-100% scale when looking at a combination of analysis that needs to be taken into account. Bc a 0-100% scale is too simplistic of a scale to represent everything being taken into account. PFF is the source.

Two things.

1. You said completion percentage in the first post of yours I quoted. It is impossible to have a completion percentage over 100.

2. I just checked PFF. They grade players on a 0-100 scale for every aspect of the game.

Maybe you're thinking of passer rating, not completion percentage? That would make sense.

 

[Merlin]

Considering Hill doesnt cover top wide outs makes it a moot point to argue.

Not at all. If you draw the top wideout every game your grade is going to be lower than if you draw JAGs. Because PFF doesn't adjust their grade for quality of the opponent. It needed to be mentioned given the direction of the conversation.