Rams vs Cardinals: Official Game Day Thread

[Lesson]

My question is, would the Rams help themselves in the long run if they underwent a rebuild or try to fix the current holes on the team?

We're still in re-build....

There's a difference between what happened with the team in the 08-09 and 09-10 offseasons than there is with the 10-11 offseason.

I am talking major rebuild...

It's going to feel like a major rebuild this offseason. There will be tons of changes. This team is full of under-performing, untalented, overpaid, and injury prone players.

Do you think it will include a new HC and GM?

 

[DR RAM]

My question is, would the Rams help themselves in the long run if they underwent a rebuild or try to fix the current holes on the team?

We're still in re-build....

There's a difference between what happened with the team in the 08-09 and 09-10 offseasons than there is with the 10-11 offseason.

I am talking major rebuild...

It's going to feel like a major rebuild this offseason. There will be tons of changes. This team is full of under-performing, untalented, overpaid, and injury prone players.

Do you think it will include a new HC and GM?

I don't know. I think there's a reasonable chance that at least one of them will not be back next season.

 

[Angry Ram]

My question is, would the Rams help themselves in the long run if they underwent a rebuild or try to fix the current holes on the team?

Continue building, we have talent, we can see that in flashes. Quinn, Pettis today, Salas showed flashes after a poor start, Sam has flashes, even Kendricks had some flashes, including today.... Stewart as well.

We don't have depth, if we had depth and didn't have half our roster in the hospital we could develop younger players more. There's talent, it's just not polished enough, I think we need to continue to build, at least for another year. Then we can start to talk about replacement of front office personnel.

We are a few holes, and a healthy roster away from competing with just about anyone in my opinion.

I agree. Three things the Rams need. Luck, not Andrew. Health. And playmakers.

 

[Stranger]

It's going to feel like a major rebuild this offseason. There will be tons of changes. This team is full of under-performing, untalented, overpaid, and injury prone players.

Wow, this post surprises me coming from you, Dr. R.

 

[-X-]

It's going to feel like a major rebuild this offseason. There will be tons of changes. This team is full of under-performing, untalented, overpaid, and injury prone players.

Wow, this post surprises me coming from you, Dr. R.

I don't know. It could happen. Could be as much as Kroenke telling McDaniels to choose his assistants (OL, WR, TE, QB coaches), getting a whole new training staff, and a President of Football Operations. That's a lot of changes that could probably do some good.

 

[Angry Ram]

I think it'll be very surprising if there WON'T be changes. I'm not gonna say who. Actually, I hope there are major changes b/c it would show me that Stan Kroenke is committed to making this team a winner.

 

[RamsSince1969]

It's going to feel like a major rebuild this offseason. There will be tons of changes. This team is full of under-performing, untalented, overpaid, and injury prone players.

Wow, this post surprises me coming from you, Dr. R.

That's what I was thinking too. Enough is enough.

 

[Ramhusker]

There's a breaking point for everyone. Even saints.

 

[DR RAM]

The statement I made was an overall one. Coaching, player acquisition and decisions must improve. And we have a lot of free agents.

99 Ah You, C.J. DE 6-4 270 29 3 Oklahoma
84 Alexander, Danario WR 6-5 215 23 2 Missouri
47 Bajema, Billy TE 6-4 259 29 7 Oklahoma State
95 Bannan, Justin DT 6-3 310 32 10 Colorado
63 Bell, Jacob G 6-4 300 30 8 Miami (Ohio)
8 Bradford, Sam QB 6-4 228 24 2 Oklahoma
60 Brown, Jason C 6-3 328 28 7 North Carolina
3 Brown, Josh K 6-0 205 32 9 Nebraska
37 Butler, James SS 6-3 209 29 7 Georgia Tech
57 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 230 26 4 Tulsa
Cole, Justin LB 6-3 242 24 2 San Jose State
15 Curry, Dominique WR 6-2 224 24 2 California, PA
43 Dahl, Craig S 6-1 209 26 5 North Dakota State
62 Dahl, Harvey G 6-5 305 30 6 Nevada-Reno
4 Feeley, A.J. QA 6-3 220 34 11 Oregon
11 Gibson, Brandon WR 6-0 210 24 2 Washington State
71 Gibson, Gary LDT 6-3 300 29 6 Rutgers
73 Goldberg, Adam RT 6-7 309 31 7 Wyoming
38 Gordy, Josh DB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
96 Hall, James RDE 6-2 281 34 10 Michigan
26 Hood, Rod CB 5-11 201 30 9 Auburn
70 Hughes, Kevin OT 6-4 300 R SE Louisiana
56 Hull, Josh SLB 6-3 239 24 R Penn State
39 Jackson, Steven RB 6-2 236 28 6 Oregon State
5 Jones, Donnie P 6-2 225 31 7 Louisiana State
50 Kehl, Bryan LB 6-2 237 27 3 Brigham Young
88 Kendricks, Lance TE 6-3 247 23 R Wisconsin
21 King, Justin LCB 5-11 188 24 3 Penn State
55 Laurinaitis, James MLB 6-2 247 24 2 Ohio State
59 Leber, Ben LB 6-3 244 32 10 Kansas State
79 LeVoir, Mark G 6-7 310 29 5 Notre Dame
83 Lloyd, Brandon WR 6-0 188 30 9 Illinois
91 Long, Chris RDE 6-3 276 26 3 Virginia
67 Mattison, Bryan G 6-3 310 27 2 Iowa
44 McQuaide, Jake LS 6-2 219 R Ohio State
27 Mikell, Quintin DB 5-10 203 31 9 Boise State
49 Miller, Brit RB 6-0 243 25 1 Illinois
17 Miller, Nick WR 5-9 180 24 3 Southern Utah
30 Ness, Nate CB 6-1 190 25 2 Arizona
53 Nixon, David LB 6-3 225 26 3 Brigham Young
34 Norwood, Jerious RB 5-11 209 28 6 Mississippi State
18 Pettis, Austin WR 6-2 209 R Boise State
51 Poppinga, Brady LB 6-3 250 32 7 Brigham Young
35 Porter, Quinn RB 6-0 205 25 1 Stillman
94 Quinn, Robert DE 6-4 265 21 R North Carolina
98 Robbins, Fred LDT 6-4 325 34 11 Wake Forest
97 Scott, Darell RDT 6-3 315 25 2 Clemson
92 Sims, Eugene RDE 6-6 250 25 R West Texas A&M
81 Spach, Stephen TE 6-4 260 29 6 Fresno State
20 Stewart, Darian S 5-11 215 23 R South Carolina
72 Welch, Thomas OT 6-6 300 24 1 Vanderbilt
33 Williams, Cadillac RB 5-11 204 29 7 Auburn
64 Wragge, Tony G 6-4 310 32 7 New Mexico State

Steve Spagnuolo
Steve Loney
Ken Flajole
Josh McDaniels Because of Bradford.
Nolan Cromwell
Billy Devaney

Orange - iffy to needs improvement.
Red - cut or fire.
Blue - keep and develop

That's a lot of changes to me. I didn't include the IR players.

 

[Ramhusker]

DAMN

 

[-X-]

Really? Flajole? Are you suggesting Spags take over DC duties at the same time, or bring in someone off of the same coaching tree?

 

[DR RAM]

Really? Flajole? Are you suggesting Spags take over DC duties at the same time, or bring in someone off of the same coaching tree?

I think Spags IS already the D coordinator. Seems to me he took over a few weeks ago, so why keep Flajole, give someone else the spot that can get it done.

 

[Stranger]

Remember, Stan, or whoever he brings in to run the team, is going to be thinking about these decisions from a business perspective, and that means convincing the fans that you're making enough changes so that they will opt for another season of season-tickets. So, as we've discussed here previously, some may have to go simply for marketing purposes. I don't know if or how that impacts your list, Dr Ram, but thought I should bring up the point, even though it's been addressed on this forum befor.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Remember, Stan, or whoever he brings in to run the team, is going to be thinking about these decisions from a business perspective, and that means convincing the fans that you're making enough changes so that they will opt for another season of season-tickets. So, as we've discussed here previously, some may have to go simply for marketing purposes. I don't know if or how that impacts your list, Dr Ram, but thought I should bring up the point, even though it's been addressed on this forum befor.

If it was a pure business decision, it would be a move to LA, since AEG has already said they will pay for the move, the stadium, any penalties for leaving stadiums early, as well as pay for marketing and have a higher internal salary cap than the Rams most likely have, while still maintaining minority ownership.

AEG has done basically everything to try to get teams to move to LA, pure business wise, it's a slam dunk to move the Rams back, given the stadium issues, and the fact they don't have to worry about a second team there (at least not at this time).

 

[-X-]

You forgot Salas : )

Yeah, actually, there are about 10 guys missing from that list since they're on IR now.

 

[DR RAM]

You forgot Salas : )

Yeah, actually, there are about 10 guys missing from that list since they're on IR now.

And THAT fact (in a big way) lends to the number of blue players listed, and why the Rams are what they are now. We can't compete with the talent that we currently have on our 53. You are only as good as your worst player that has to contribute in a big way, and we have too many players like that, mostly because of injuries.

Unfortunately, players like Fletcher, Bartell, Hoomanwanui, Clayton, etc. might be orange players because of injury, when they should be blue players.

 

[JT77]

Patrick Peterson beat the Rams again. That's an epic fail!
http://thexlog.com/201111281238/xtra-point-football/nfl/monday-morning-quarterback-nfl-epic-fails/

 

[Faceplant]

WOW! IS that really you ^^^ Jim Thomas??? :roll: The biggest failure of all is a fat, grown man who writes a blog using the term "epic fail".......