Rams RB Kyren Williams: 'I don't feel like I've touched my peak yet' coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons

[El Chapo Jr]

I disagree. It’s the whole basis for the All in Fuck then picks strategy. A sure thing is always a better bet than draft picks, because an unproven player in the draft is not a sure thing.

Love how there's these all in fights to keep one's argument the winner ...... I'm actually saying it could go one way or the other as no one can really tell the future as we are all speculating and forecasting. Obviously doing the Judkins for Kyren is a gamble but to me, I think it would have been worth it, but it didn't happen so it is what it is. I'm making a guess that Kyren will not be extended due to others of more importance coming up for new contracts.

 

[Loyal]

My point is there's no need we all agree he's good. Take it to Blaine on his shit site or his X posts.

YOUSONOFA ~ JkBogan

 

[El Chapo Jr]

LMFAO!!

"Pretty crappy year efficency wise"?
#3 in carries, #5 in TDs, #2 in first downs, #7 in yards

Those stats you cited came from where?
Here's a list of yards per carry for 2024 and KW is ranked #34.

2024 NFL Rushing | Pro-Football-Reference.com

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(FWIW, click on the column Y/A to see for yourself)

Take the 8 guys off who had less than 150 attempts (Lamar, Jayden Daniels, Allgeier, Gibson, McLaughlin, Warren, White and Charbonnet) and KW ranks #26. Take the QB (Hurts) off that list with 150 attempts (we are talking RBs, right?) and he ranks #25. Does the fact he doesn't have blazing, affect his yards per carry?

Anyway, if whomever compiled those stats couldn't even get that right.....by a lot......WTF does it say about the rest of those stats? I gotta ask, it wasn't Blaine Grisak was it?

Who cares about yards after contact per carry? How about yards before contact?
Tackles avoided per carry? How about broken tackles? KW #3 with 27.

Don't get me wrong. I DON'T WANT to overpay KW. A fair deal would be great. And because he's got a nose for the end zone and the first down marker, I hope for our sake they get it done.

Wow calm down killer. Did Blaine shit in your cereal? No I didn't get those stats from him or his website since I honestly don't know who that fuckin guy is lol.....you really lost me at who cares about yards are contact LMAO big time there. That's a big deal because not every play is going to be blocked perfectly and for the volume he had, its not great at all. Yards before contact speaks more to the o-line and blocking from the rest of the offense being better than Kyren's vision so color me confused there. By the way, yes I get shitty oline blocking can also cause shitty situations where our running backs, Kyren, include get blasted and had zero chance. I'm not saying the guy doesn't make people miss but he did it way less last year according to stats. I'm with you on the overpay part as I also get if they sign him because the amount is right for what the Rams want to do. My concern for that happening is also tied to other contracts coming up soon such as Puka and Turner.

 

[OldSchool]

YOUSONOFA ~ JkBogan

Another pile of excrement.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Love how there's these all in fights to keep one's argument the winner ...... I'm actually saying it could go one way or the other as no one can really tell the future as we are all speculating and forecasting. Obviously doing the Judkins for Kyren is a gamble but to me, I think it would have been worth it, but it didn't happen so it is what it is. I'm making a guess that Kyren will not be extended due to others of more importance coming up for new contracts.

I’m glad that they didn’t trade him. Kyren is a known commodity. Judkins could be a bust. Trent Richardson was a bust and he isn’t the only runningback drafted early to fall short of expectations.

 

[OldSchool]

Can the season get here already? This is getting into Tropic Thunder territory.

 

[PARAM]

Wow calm down killer. Did Blaine shit in your cereal? No I didn't get those stats from him or his website since I honestly don't know who that fuckin guy is lol.....you really lost me at who cares about yards are contact LMAO big time there. That's a big deal because not every play is going to be blocked perfectly and for the volume he had, its not great at all. Yards before contact speaks more to the o-line and blocking from the rest of the offense being better than Kyren's vision so color me confused there. By the way, yes I get shitty oline blocking can also cause shitty situations where our running backs, Kyren, include get blasted and had zero chance. I'm not saying the guy doesn't make people miss but he did it way less last year according to stats. I'm with you on the overpay part as I also get if they sign him because the amount is right for what the Rams want to do. My concern for that happening is also tied to other contracts coming up soon such as Puka and Turner.

All I was saying was those numbers you quoted have proven to be inaccurate. It says "of the RBs with 150 attempts" then includes guys with 116, etc. In other words, shoddy research at best, deceitful information at worst. Still he's not in the top 15 in most of those catagories but he had 315 attempts. Which means, he's in there in all situations, at all points in the game. Think about that for a minute.

But what do those numbers really tell us? Green Bay was #5 in rushing yards, #6 in yds/att and Jacobs had worse numbers than Kyren (2.0 ybc). Saquon Barkley had 2.0 yac/att; Kyren 1.9. What do those numbers really mean? NOTHING>

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I’m glad that they didn’t trade him. Kyren is a known commodity. Judkins could be a bust. Trent Richardson was a bust and he isn’t the only runningback drafted early to fall short of expectations.

Fair enough, I get that stance for sure. Maybe I'm just more willing to risk going for a stud college RB where that was the strength in this past draft. No way to know if any of that would have hypothetically happened but something is going to have to give soon at running back as the Rams can't pay everyone coming up soon.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

All I was saying was those numbers you quoted have proven to be inaccurate. It says "of the RBs with 150 attempts" then includes guys with 116, etc. In other words, shoddy research at best, deceitful information at worst. Still he's not in the top 15 in most of those catagories but he had 315 attempts. Which means, he's in there in all situations, at all points in the game. Think about that for a minute.

But what do those numbers really tell us? Green Bay was #5 in rushing yards, #6 in yds/att and Jacobs had worse numbers than Kyren (2.0 ybc). Saquon Barkley had 2.0 yac/att; Kyren 1.9. What do those numbers really mean? NOTHING>

So we are making stuff up now I see lol....what I posted only states Kyrens number of carries and no names whatsoever yet you found names? I literally went to NFL.com to count how many backs had at least 150 carries last year and I found 31 exactly like it states on what I posted. Sounds like you are twisting whatever I posted I guess to prove your point. No need to do all that. Kyren is a pretty good back, but he isn't elite enough to warrant an automatic new contract. Those contracts are no brainers to studs a la Barkley. Mentioning Jacobs, I'd much rather he'd be our back then Kyren but that's a whole other ball of wax I'd rather not get into since thats essentially not even anything that can ever happen.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Can the season get here already? This is getting into Tropic Thunder territory.

 

[OldSchool]

Not the line I was going with but I'll take it

 

[JPPT1974]

Really it shows he is humble and is very modest over in his abilities. Really rooting for the young man.

 

[dieterbrock]

There's a reason the Rams drafted another and he's still not signed.

Of course there is a simple reason, they have drafted an RB EVERY year and Williams is signed, for '25

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Of course there is a simple reason, they have drafted an RB EVERY year and Williams is signed, for '25

Correct and smart of the Rams to do since that position is brutal based on it being the one with the shortest average career length. However, I highly doubt Kyren is a Ram after this year (could be wrong if he signs a team friendly deal, and thats ok lol) because they'll have to spend lots of cap soon on those soon to not be cheap anymore late draft hits we made. Unless Kyren truly shows out, I don't see it in the cards. As much as he does for us, I don't see the cap being allocated that way which is why I was ok with taking a chance in the draft. However I get the thinking since Stafford isn't getting any younger

 

[dieterbrock]

Correct and smart of the Rams to do since that position is brutal based on it being the one with the shortest average career length. However, I highly doubt Kyren is a Ram after this year (could be wrong if he signs a team friendly deal, and thats ok lol) because they'll have to spend lots of cap soon on those soon to not be cheap anymore late draft hits we made. Unless Kyren truly shows out, I don't see it in the cards. As much as he does for us, I don't see the cap being allocated that way which is why I was ok with taking a chance in the draft. However I get the thinking since Stafford isn't getting any younger

They are still talking extension, no need to ink one until TC starts.
After Gurley, you have to go all the way back to Sjax to find a better Rams RB.
We'll see

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Fair enough, I get that stance for sure. Maybe I'm just more willing to risk going for a stud college RB where that was the strength in this past draft. No way to know if any of that would have hypothetically happened but something is going to have to give soon at running back as the Rams can't pay everyone coming up soon.

Plus, as you just pointed out, this draft had a lot of RBs in it. That lowers Kyren’s trade value. In a season where the Rams think they could win it all, do they give their stud RB away for peanuts a rely on a bunch of unproven guys to get them to a Super Bowl and protect Stafford all season?

That would be a huge mistake just to land a 4th to 6th round pick.

 

[Soul Surfer]

With the supposed stat that Stafford is not that strong in the end zone, (bullshit, btw).
We need a RB that knows how to put the ball in the end zone. (KW).
It also gives us more options inside the 10 yard line.
Especially now that people will be looking at Ferguson and trying to deal with his height.
We will be hard to stop in the red zone.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

They are still talking extension, no need to ink one until TC starts.
After Gurley, you have to go all the way back to Sjax to find a better Rams RB.
We'll see

Yup it'll be interesting to see that's for sure. Really hope the Rams hold off to see if Kyren from last year shows up again fumble wise or not.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Plus, as you just pointed out, this draft had a lot of RBs in it. That lowers Kyren’s trade value. In a season where the Rams think they could win it all, do they give their stud RB away for peanuts a rely on a bunch of unproven guys to get them to a Super Bowl and protect Stafford all season?

That would be a huge mistake just to land a 4th to 6th round pick.

If we only got offered a 4th and 6th, no way you trade him. I'd want more but that's why I said I would have tried as I think he'd get more than that on the trade market since he's still at least pretty young as a RB. All this discussion is at this point is straight up what if type cuz there's really shit else to talk about hahaha

 

[RamBradford85]

So he's the best red zone RB then?
Great news!
Glad he's our guy!

Dude overrated and not as good of blocker as ya make him out to be