Rams PFF grades: Best and worst performers vs. Bills

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Soul Surfer

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Ouch, Speights fell of a cliff. That's likely the Allen runs


But look at that! The one guy some here want to get rid of was the Rams highest graded O-line man again. The other guy some want gone is the second highest rated O-lineman
I'm a big fan of both our starting tackles.
And our center and her two stud guards.
It took them a while to get healthy, in shape and in sync, but i think they're finally there. :)
 

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I'm a big fan of both our starting tackles.
And our center and her two stud guards.
It took them a while to get healthy, in shape and in sync, but i think they're finally there. :)
And we are getting Higbeast back which can only help in the run blocking.
 

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Leading the league in pressures with rookies and second year players all over the place. Give him some corners that can cover. Shula is going to be great.
I'm not so sure. Pressures are great but sacks are what matters. Yeah our defense has potential but tackling and communication on defense are paramount and in my opinion are coaching staples that Shula falls short of. I'm all for giving him another year but I don't think he's it
 

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Ouch, Speights fell of a cliff. That's likely the Allen runs


But look at that! The one guy some here want to get rid of was the Rams highest graded O-line man again. The other guy some want gone is the second highest rated O-lineman
Yep.

We don't have an OT problem.
We do need depth.
But if we go into the draft trying to replace the OTs, it would just be a sideways move - it wouldn't be improvement for next season.
 

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I'm not so sure. Pressures are great but sacks are what matters. Yeah our defense has potential but tackling and communication on defense are paramount and in my opinion are coaching staples that Shula falls short of. I'm all for giving him another year but I don't think he's it

If our corners could stay within range of receivers, pressures can lead to picks. It’s all important. Sacks are great, but it’s not the end all be all. Yes, tackling is important. Our DBs can’t tackle for shit. Our linebackers consist of someone we wanted cut, and an undrafted rookie.

Gotta give these kids a chance to grow. Determining Shulas talent as a coach given the roster he inherited is absolutely crazy. We had worse defenses that had AD on them
 

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I think we miss Morris' expertise on the back end. Which if true means it is possible he was carrying Pleasant to some extent. And either way between Shula and Pleasant it feels like our secondary is consistently behind the eight ball vs opposing pass games.

Some of that is certainly related to talent. But beyond the talent I don't think the staff has been great on that back end. Lot of blown coverages and any time the rush doesn't move the QB off his spot there's dudes running wide open for opposing QBs.
 

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Why do people always want to concentrate on one or two bad calls when they happen throughout the game on both sides?

Ponderous. Simply ponderous.
It was more about Havenstein false starting twice in the game in big spots I could careless about the non-call.
 

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Our DBs can’t tackle for shit

The attempts on shakir while he was running for a 50 yard td were beyond embarrassing.

I'll never understand how a player can make it to the nfl yet not know how to tackle properly.

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AZRams

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If our corners could stay within range of receivers, pressures can lead to picks. It’s all important. Sacks are great, but it’s not the end all be all. Yes, tackling is important. Our DBs can’t tackle for shit. Our linebackers consist of someone we wanted cut, and an undrafted rookie.

Gotta give these kids a chance to grow. Determining Shulas talent as a coach given the roster he inherited is absolutely crazy. We had worse defenses that had AD on them
Is drafting talent at CB as difficult as Snead has made it look for the last 10 years?
 

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Ouch, Speights fell of a cliff. That's likely the Allen runs


But look at that! The one guy some here want to get rid of was the Rams highest graded O-line man again. The other guy some want gone is the second highest rated O-lineman
I’m over the subjective personal vendettas against Havenstein. Setting to IGNORE: They come from a universe I chose not to live in.
 

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I'm not so sure. Pressures are great but sacks are what matters. Yeah our defense has potential but tackling and communication on defense are paramount and in my opinion are coaching staples that Shula falls short of. I'm all for giving him another year but I don't think he's it
“I’m not so sure”.
“I don’t think”.
I think that sums it up. Shula has 7 new starters and likely the youngest defense in the league. Give him a legitimate CB1, a stud ILB and I believe this defense will cook.
 

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Leading the league in pressures with rookies and second year players all over the place. Give him some corners that can cover. Shula is going to be great.
You forgot all the UDFA's playing for us.
 

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“I’m not so sure”.
“I don’t think”.
I think that sums it up. Shula has 7 new starters and likely the youngest defense in the league. Give him a legitimate CB1, a stud ILB and I believe this defense will cook.
I completely agree. The D has 2 new rookies starting on the D-line, the 2 corners that were signed as free agents have played poorly, Witherspoon has been subpar, the safeties are rookies or UDFA, and the linebackers were significantly diminished by releasing their best one at the beginning of the season and going with 2 UDFA. Even the back-ups on the D-line were either 6th round picks or UDFA. And Shula had nothing to do with any of this. Give the guy a chance with a real defense before wondering if he should be canned. Personally, I think he has done very well with the talent he had to work with. Next year will be the real test although who knows what McVay or Snead will do.
 

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If our corners could stay within range of receivers, pressures can lead to picks. It’s all important. Sacks are great, but it’s not the end all be all. Yes, tackling is important. Our DBs can’t tackle for shit. Our linebackers consist of someone we wanted cut, and an undrafted rookie.

Gotta give these kids a chance to grow. Determining Shulas talent as a coach given the roster he inherited is absolutely crazy. We had worse defenses that had AD on them
Yep...some famous coach, I think Belichick, said that getting pressure on the QB is more important than getting sacks. I don't know that I've ever fully bought into that sentiment but QB pressure is very important. Not to be minimized.

On the missed tackles, our DL has struggled too. Verse, Roseboom, Fiske, and Young (in this order) lead the team in missed tackles.