Rams on the clock at #37 (CBS Sports)

[12intheBox]

Havenstein to LEFT guard? I missed that part. I suppose that puts Saffold at RG - which I think is his best spot.

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/851527402228416513


Robey-Coleman is just depth

Great! An ESPN reporter who's been wrong before speculating

 

[TheDYVKX]

Havenstein to LEFT guard? I missed that part. I suppose that puts Saffold at RG - which I think is his best spot.

Oh that was a typo on his part he corrected that after, too.

 

[TheDYVKX]

Great! An ESPN reporter who's been wrong before speculating

He's also been right a lot before. He's pegged more than most.

But he's not speculating, just going off of McVay's words

View: http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Which-Rams-May-Shift-Positions-in-2017/f2d35d11-9805-4595-ae0d-a7bb6d9ea120


Specifically this part "But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

Meaning he'll play both slot and FS.

Wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

 

[Merlin]

Davis has zero chance of reaching 37. He's a gone-by-20 guy, so even if he somehow gets into the 20s it's hard to imagine a further slide to us.

Some players just have too much value for that many teams to overlook it. Reuben Foster, for example, just admitted that he failed a drug test at the combine so he's probably going to slide a bit, and I love the dude, but 37 is just too remote to have a real shot at him unfortunately.

We'll be looking at Samuels, Godwin, Juju, etc there at 37. Lots of options there but I'll be shocked if Davis is one of them.

 

[OldSchool]

He's also been right a lot before. He's pegged more than most.

But he's not speculating, just going off of McVay's words

View: http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Which-Rams-May-Shift-Positions-in-2017/f2d35d11-9805-4595-ae0d-a7bb6d9ea120


Specifically this part "But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

Meaning he'll play both slot and FS.

Wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

Lets provide the details of the article that video was linked from.

One of the more significant changes should be for defensive back Lamarcus Joyner, who is set to see time at free safety during Los Angeles’ offseason program. Joyner has primarily played as a slot corner in his first three pro seasons, occasionally working on the outside in a pinch.

“He shows up [on film] and you want to find as many ways to get him on the field as possible,” head coach Sean McVay said of Joyner on Monday. “Whether that’s him at nickel — which I think he’s one of the elite players at that spot in this league — or the safety, I think you see an instinctual player that has a great feel for the game. I think our coaching staff has done a nice job targeting him as a player that we have to make sure that he’s on the grass, he’s competing.”

When L.A. signed defensive back Nickell Robey-Coleman, it gave the club some flexibly to move Joyner. The USC product has also primarily played at slot corner for Buffalo over the last four years, making a pair of interceptions in last year’s Rams-Bills matchup in October.

Shifting Joyner to free safety also fills a need internally, as Maurice Alexander is expected to shift to strong safety following T.J. McDonald’s departure to Miami in free agency.

While moving to safety will be an adjustment for Joyner, it’s one McVay sounded confident the defensive back can make. The head coach noted much of what Joyner has been doing as a slot corner translates to what he’ll be asked to do in his new role.

“I think our coaching staff has done a nice job figuring out ways we can make that transition smooth,” McVay said. “I think it’s just getting comfortable — he is an instinctual player. And just understanding some of those exit angles, some of those break points, based on starting from 15 yards off as opposed to down where you’re 10-yards within the line of scrimmage, will be a little bit different. But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

The article cites McVay talking about Joyners past as a nickel and occasionally outside. It talks about how good he is and that's a player you want on the field all the time. It talks about him moving to safety. It talks about how the signing of NRC allows the move to safety. It however does not talk about how Joyner will be our nickle back and not FS in the nickel package as you speculate. It talks about how his skill set translates to make the move to FS. There was early speculation before we signed NRC that Joyner would move around. Since the signing there has only been talk of Joyner at FS.

 

[OldSchool]

Davis has zero chance of reaching 37. He's a gone-by-20 guy, so even if he somehow gets into the 20s it's hard to imagine a further slide to us.

Some players just have too much value for that many teams to overlook it. Reuben Foster, for example, just admitted that he failed a drug test at the combine so he's probably going to slide a bit, and I love the dude, but 37 is just too remote to have a real shot at him unfortunately.

We'll be looking at Samuels, Godwin, Juju, etc there at 37. Lots of options there but I'll be shocked if Davis is one of them.

One thing we've seen in the draft is never say never.

 

[Merlin]

One thing we've seen in the draft is never say never.

Maybe so. But if Davis makes it into the 20s there will probably be some teams wanting to move up for him. He's legit. 37 is a lifetime away from the 20s for a guy of his talent.

 

[TheDYVKX]

Lets provide the details of the article that video was linked from.



The article cites McVay talking about Joyners past as a nickel and occasionally outside. It talks about how good he is and that's a player you want on the field all the time. It talks about him moving to safety. It talks about how the signing of NRC allows the move to safety. It however does not talk about how Joyner will be our nickle back and not FS in the nickel package as you speculate. It talks about how his skill set translates to make the move to FS. There was early speculation before we signed NRC that Joyner would move around. Since the signing there has only been talk of Joyner at FS.

Uh, respectfully, both paragraphs talk about him playing slot still.

“He shows up [on film] and you want to find as many ways to get him on the field as possible,” head coach Sean McVay said of Joyner on Monday. “Whether that’s him at nickel — which I think he’s one of the elite players at that spot in this league — or the safety, I think you see an instinctual player that has a great feel for the game. I think our coaching staff has done a nice job targeting him as a player that we have to make sure that he’s on the grass, he’s competing.”


“I think our coaching staff has done a nice job figuring out ways we can make that transition smooth,” McVay said. “I think it’s just getting comfortable — he is an instinctual player. And just understanding some of those exit angles, some of those break points, based on starting from 15 yards off as opposed to down where you’re 10-yards within the line of scrimmage, will be a little bit different. But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

All I need to say. If you can't read, I don't want to continue anyway.

 

[OldSchool]

Uh, respectfully, both paragraphs talk about him playing slot still.

“He shows up [on film] and you want to find as many ways to get him on the field as possible,” head coach Sean McVay said of Joyner on Monday. “Whether that’s him at nickel — which I think he’s one of the elite players at that spot in this league — or the safety, I think you see an instinctual player that has a great feel for the game. I think our coaching staff has done a nice job targeting him as a player that we have to make sure that he’s on the grass, he’s competing.”


“I think our coaching staff has done a nice job figuring out ways we can make that transition smooth,” McVay said. “I think it’s just getting comfortable — he is an instinctual player. And just understanding some of those exit angles, some of those break points, based on starting from 15 yards off as opposed to down where you’re 10-yards within the line of scrimmage, will be a little bit different. But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

All I need to say. If you can't read, I don't want to continue anyway.

Haha you got it agree to disagree. The Rams signed the #2 rated nickel CB in the league but we're going to not play him there. Instead we're going to move our FS who McVay says will be great at FS to nickel when we are in that package

 

[Prime Time]

We've all seen some mocks that have Ross falling to us in the 2nd come around lately. It seems there are reports that have his medicals being described as "horrible". Really interesting and something that I hope we get more info on soon.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/durability-could-drag-down-john-ross/

Durability concerns could drag down John Ross
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2017

Getty Images

A Combine record of 4.22 seconds in the 40-yard dash may not propel John Ross to the top of the draft, after all.

NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock said Friday that injury concerns have caused teams either to downgrade the Washington receiver or to remove him from consideration.

“There are some teams that have pushed him either down their boards or off their boards because of injuries,” Mayock said, via NFL.com. “He’s had surgery on his shoulder, he’s had surgery on both knees, and he’s got a small frame. So the durability is a big issue with him right now.”

Of course, it doesn’t matter if most teams take him from the draft board. If at least two think of him highly — and if they’re willing to assume the risk that he’ll be injured on a regular basis or out of football sooner than expected — his draft stock will remain high.

For his part, Mayock still regards Ross as a first-round talent, who can immediately help as a receiver and a return specialist. Many others still see Ross as a sure-fire top-15 pick.

 

[Merlin]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/durability-could-drag-down-john-ross/

Durability concerns could drag down John Ross
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2017

Getty Images

A Combine record of 4.22 seconds in the 40-yard dash may not propel John Ross to the top of the draft, after all.

NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock said Friday that injury concerns have caused teams either to downgrade the Washington receiver or to remove him from consideration.

“There are some teams that have pushed him either down their boards or off their boards because of injuries,” Mayock said, via NFL.com. “He’s had surgery on his shoulder, he’s had surgery on both knees, and he’s got a small frame. So the durability is a big issue with him right now.”

Of course, it doesn’t matter if most teams take him from the draft board. If at least two think of him highly — and if they’re willing to assume the risk that he’ll be injured on a regular basis or out of football sooner than expected — his draft stock will remain high.

For his part, Mayock still regards Ross as a first-round talent, who can immediately help as a receiver and a return specialist. Many others still see Ross as a sure-fire top-15 pick.

Ross sliding to us would figure, since I don't think he's the best fit for us. Not that I wouldn't like to see him on the depth chart, but him and his 40 time aren't the best fit for the Rams among the early wideouts. If any of those top 3 wideouts slide to round 2 it will be Ross IMO.

 

[PARAM]

Uh, respectfully, both paragraphs talk about him playing slot still.

“He shows up [on film] and you want to find as many ways to get him on the field as possible,” head coach Sean McVay said of Joyner on Monday. “Whether that’s him at nickel — which I think he’s one of the elite players at that spot in this league — or the safety, I think you see an instinctual player that has a great feel for the game. I think our coaching staff has done a nice job targeting him as a player that we have to make sure that he’s on the grass, he’s competing.”


“I think our coaching staff has done a nice job figuring out ways we can make that transition smooth,” McVay said. “I think it’s just getting comfortable — he is an instinctual player. And just understanding some of those exit angles, some of those break points, based on starting from 15 yards off as opposed to down where you’re 10-yards within the line of scrimmage, will be a little bit different. But I think you’ve seen examples of great guys be able to do both across the league and we’re hoping that he’ll be able to do the same thing for us.”

All I need to say. If you can't read, I don't want to continue anyway.

It all depends on how you read it also. In the first paragraph he indicates he'll play both FS and nickel. In the 2nd I take the "examples of great guys be able to do both...." as players who moved from CB to S, not "played both" in the same season. So the rest of the sentence "we're hoping that he'll be able to do the same thing for us" I take as going from CB to S. McVay speaks of "making the transition smooth" which I take as transitioning from our 2016 slot CB to our 2017 FS.

But it's all in how you read it. If you read those two paragraphs together the second might mean the same as the first (nickel AND safety). If you read them separately it takes on a different meaning altogether. Particularly with the phrase "making the transition smooth". But who knows what'll happen this year. Coaches say stuff in April all the time that doesn't come to fruition from September on. "No more of that 7-9 BS" comes to mind.

 

[Prime Time]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/s...-32-nfl-teams-best-case-scenarios-first-round

Dream 2017 NFL draft scenarios for every team
Dan Graziano/ESPN Staff Writer

Pick No. 37: Los Angeles Rams
A first-round wide receiver tumbles into the second.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, teams get scared off by Corey Davis' medicals. The Rams should pounce on the kind of offensive playmaker who'll make QB Jared Goff's life easier. They spent this year's first-rounder trading up for Goff last year, so now all of their dreams are tied to his success. New coach Sean McVay is just excited to have a bunch of new players who are closer to his own age.

 

[OldSchool]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/s...-32-nfl-teams-best-case-scenarios-first-round

Dream 2017 NFL draft scenarios for every team
Dan Graziano/ESPN Staff Writer

Pick No. 37: Los Angeles Rams
A first-round wide receiver tumbles into the second.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, teams get scared off by Corey Davis' medicals. The Rams should pounce on the kind of offensive playmaker who'll make QB Jared Goff's life easier. They spent this year's first-rounder trading up for Goff last year, so now all of their dreams are tied to his success. New coach Sean McVay is just excited to have a bunch of new players who are closer to his own age.

Screw you Graziano can't write something without the snide age comment. Can't wait for the Rams to start winning and shutting up idiots like him.

 

[Loyal]

No one knows Jack about who teams will select after about the first 5 picks in the first round. Too many moving parts, which includes trades, secret team "wants", and evaluations done by talking heads that aren't shared by paid pro scouts, etc...It's just a game where there are multiple possibilities for every team, for every pick (as far as we know).

JMHO

 

[jap]

One thing we've seen in the draft is never say never.

Exactly! You never know when some war room is gonna panic and ignite a run on a certain position, causing a lot of good players to drop.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

A deep draft class--somebody's gonna be there at 37. We should be able to grab a starter or playmaker.

 

[jrry32]

View: https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/851527402228416513


Robey-Coleman is just depth

This seems more like the Rams hedging their bets than the truth.

 

[BonifayRam]

As far as Safety being a need to rate as high a #3?

For starters Snead's roster has 2 NFL starters who have played both safety positions in Mo Alexander & Mark Barron. MB being much more SS type & MA being a true hybrid of both safety post. Fact is there was recent article singing MO's praises as having greatly improved his NFL games this past season @ safety. Both of these safeties are highly talented & only 27 & 26 yrs old. In addition DB Lamarcus Joyner has been a Ram starter mostly for 3 seasons @ numerous secondary positions. Playing safety is not new to him he played safety on 3 FSU championship teams. If we just stopped here please someone tell me where this issue?

Now lets get deep into detail here in this secondary. Start with a 4 yr Ram FS who has played in 58 NFL games. He is a ST ace who has starts under his belt ...27 yr old Cody Davis who is the fastest defensive player on the team & off the charts athletically. CD is a known ball hawk who can cover serious ground if a single high deep safety is in need. I would not count out Cody getting much more deep safety playing time in Wades defense than with Fisher.

With the two recent signings of two talented young veteran UFA corners (Kayvon Webster[54 NFL games] & Nickell Robey-Coleman [64 NFL games]) is going to push former starting outside corner since 2014 EJ Gaines looking for a new position for some action. If the Rams draft a few corners & Troy Hill matures, EJ time as a outside corner is over. Back before the 2014 draft many draft guru's thought that EJ going into the NFL would be a better FS or Nickle-back than outside corner. I happen to think FS & reserve Nickel post is where EJ will make a living from this point on.

Then there's last years drafted 5th & 6th round selections Safety DB's Blake Countess & Marqui Christian. MC is a little more more SS than FS type. Countess is more FS/Nickle type. After Joyner was injured Countess had two outstanding games starting in Joyner position.Then there is last yrs surprise Brian Randolph & we had a large thread a few months back discussing his pro's & cons that this safety brings to the roster....but BR needs to remain healthy. The last 2 safeties on this roster are Isaiah Johnson & Jerome Couplin. Both of these are more SS than FS. If you have not been counting that's 10 possible safety prospects.