Rams OL vs Raiders

[FaulkSF]

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What game was pff watching? No way should Evans have been rated that high

 

[Giles]

View: https://twitter.com/PFF_Rams/status/1429524322813579266

Huh!?

 

[Soul Surfer]

I keep hearing "bust" and talk about draft status being thrown around Evans. He was a late 5th rounder if I recall. There is no such thing as a fifth round bust. Especially if he has taken NFL snaps at ANY position. And draft status? What draft status does a fifth rounder hold?

I think we all hoped he'd progress but moving on from a fifth rounder is almost not worth talking about.

Well, actually, Bobby Evans was a third-round pick at number 97.
And a third-round offensive line pick with three training camps under his belt, should absolutely be ready to start in his third-year.

I haven't, until now, said he was a bust.
But he's a bust.

He definitely looked better as an offensive tackles subbing for Havenstein a couple of years ago, as a ROOKIE, than he looks now 2 years later against other teams second and third stringers in preseason.

Pretty ridiculous.

A college offensive tackle that has prototype NFL guard size at 6'5/312 lb with three training camps under his belt should look a lot better and this guy.

He is EASILY the biggest disappointment in training camp, in my opinion.

 

[TexasRam]

What game was pff watching? No way should Evans have been rated that high

For that one poster that was asking last summer why we don't take PFF seriously, exhibit A. More like exhibit Z.

PFF does this all the time. There is no universe where Evans had a good game. I don't know if these people are absolute idiots or there is some goofy money going around. I watched every snap of Evans and he got beat numerous times. 2 sacks and several pressures were due to Evans, not to mention his run game whiffs. I like to grade each game but I couldn't do this one, it was too frustrating. I was going to give Evans an F. This is against defensive scrubs so imagine him in a real game. Actually, scratch that. Go back and watch our playoff loss to the Packers and you will see why two critical drives got killed, along with the dropped passes.

 

[oldnotdead]

I think it's too early to call Evans a complete bust. Remember the first two years he was playing RT. This is his first year as an OG and that is why he plays like a rookie, i.e. he's thinking too much through each play. He's signed through next year so I think because of the position change they will give him time to make the positional transition. You can blame this on Kromer who has no idea why certain body traits are important positional considerations, i.e. he liked to play tall guys inside and short guys outside. GMFB

Edwards struggled last year as well but for some reason, PFF gives him a break so the media and most of the public does likewise. The only evaluation that is germain is Carberry's. If he deems Evan's not worth saving I would trust his judgment. Evan's just got demoted so he's struggling mentally which shows in his focus. In 2019 he showed he's a mauler when it comes to run blocking. That is exactly what you want at RG.

I think people are stressing unnecessarily over the OL. They certainly played well enough last year and with a year's experience and upgrade at center they should be better. I'm sorry, but all this angst over Allen is a head shaker to me. He's a clear upgrade to Blythe, so what's the problem? He played better as a first year starter to have earned the right not to lose his position, but again Kromer's bias showed. If Allen falters they have Shelton who has played much better at center than OG and Carberry's coaching. If he falters they can fall back to Corbett but they would then have to move Anchrum inside to RG or play a rookie Meredith (if he makes the team). But I simply don't see that happening. They appear to be set at OT with Noteboom and Alaric Jackson's obvious rise.

Like I've been saying the weak link in the OL is not center it continues to be at RT. But again the Rams look to be covered with Joe and Alaric who I think will be their starting OT's next year.

 

[OldSchool]

Anchrum practicing.


View: https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1429920633517838367

 

[fearsomefour]

I can't recall seeing a player digress that much at his age.

He never fully progressed.

 

[Soul Surfer]

He never fully progressed.

True that.
I thought he did a great job subbing for Havenstein as a rookie so add a couple training camps and he *should* have progressed.

 

[fearsomefour]

True that.
I thought he did a great job subbing for Havenstein as a rookie so add a couple training camps and he *should* have progressed.

I agree.
He really reminds me Brown when he was here.
Evans looks the part.
He was a beast run blocking last year but struggled pass blocking at RT.
I was really hoping he would work out his pass blocking because he could be a dominate OL.
I would t give up on him yet but he hasn’t progressed.

 

[Merlin]

Evans prob is he just plays stupid. He's that big guy who's easy to fool.

Raiders took advantage of that too. Like this play where the LB delay works like a dream because he stays locked on a guy who is out of his AOR... Dude has zero awareness and plays dumb. Hard to say that will change after 3 years too eh?

 

[hotanez]

Evans prob is he just plays stupid. He's that big guy who's easy to fool.

Raiders took advantage of that too. Like this play where the LB delay works like a dream because he stays locked on a guy who is out of his AOR... Dude has zero awareness and plays dumb. Hard to say that will change after 3 years too eh?

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I believe this to be the most accurate if not 100% right. Evans is not smart and someone else needs to get a chance.

 

[TexasRam]

I think it's too early to call Evans a complete bust. Remember the first two years he was playing RT. This is his first year as an OG and that is why he plays like a rookie, i.e. he's thinking too much through each play. He's signed through next year so I think because of the position change they will give him time to make the positional transition. You can blame this on Kromer who has no idea why certain body traits are important positional considerations, i.e. he liked to play tall guys inside and short guys outside. GMFB

Edwards struggled last year as well but for some reason, PFF gives him a break so the media and most of the public does likewise. The only evaluation that is germain is Carberry's. If he deems Evan's not worth saving I would trust his judgment. Evan's just got demoted so he's struggling mentally which shows in his focus. In 2019 he showed he's a mauler when it comes to run blocking. That is exactly what you want at RG.

I think people are stressing unnecessarily over the OL. They certainly played well enough last year and with a year's experience and upgrade at center they should be better. I'm sorry, but all this angst over Allen is a head shaker to me. He's a clear upgrade to Blythe, so what's the problem? He played better as a first year starter to have earned the right not to lose his position, but again Kromer's bias showed. If Allen falters they have Shelton who has played much better at center than OG and Carberry's coaching. If he falters they can fall back to Corbett but they would then have to move Anchrum inside to RG or play a rookie Meredith (if he makes the team). But I simply don't see that happening. They appear to be set at OT with Noteboom and Alaric Jackson's obvious rise.

Like I've been saying the weak link in the OL is not center it continues to be at RT. But again the Rams look to be covered with Joe and Alaric who I think will be their starting OT's next year.

Evans played Guard last year, this is not his first year. Look at the playoffs last year.

Edwards struggled? based on what. I reviewed every game last year and Edwards with very little exception was solid. Evans got beat more times in the Raiders preseason game then Edwards did in any single game last year vs NFL starters. There is no comparison.

Blythe took over Allen's spot and Allen never got it back. There is a reason. Because Allen was real bad. How you can say he's a clear upgrade over Blythe is puzzling. I hope he is, but there is no regular season tape on him that says otherwise. Why would Kromer be biased, his job was on the line to have his unit perform. That is quite a conspiracy.

I will agree with you on Kromers playing tall guys inside on short ones outside, it is rather unorthodox to an extent. Evans does deserve a shot at RT since he is more familiar with tackle and he clearly cannot play guard. Unfortunately I think he's going to have to try that with another team because I think his days as a Ram are numbered.

 

[TexasRam]

Evans prob is he just plays stupid. He's that big guy who's easy to fool.

Raiders took advantage of that too. Like this play where the LB delay works like a dream because he stays locked on a guy who is out of his AOR... Dude has zero awareness and plays dumb. Hard to say that will change after 3 years too eh?

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Yea there was no reason for him to block down on that guy with two blockers there. I think the blitz delay was ran to perfection but still, he should have stayed in position. But honestly, I think its more than head issues with Evans. He cannot sustain blocks for long and has terrible hands. When he does locked on he can move bodies and I know that's whey they want to develop him but he's too much of a liabilty at this point. His hand usage reminds me of Noteboom. With those amazing feet Boom can't sustain a block to save his life at guard. Meredith, Anchrum, Corbett and Edwards are far superior in this regard.

 

[Soul Surfer]

The great news about our offensive line is that all of our starters have starting experience or are trending upward.

(IMO), every one of our backups are trending upward and on schedule in their development, (with the exception of Evans and possibly Brewer);
Noteboom
Anchrum

And we have some great candidates for the practice squad that could develop out as well;
A. Jackson
Shelton
Meredith
Kolone
Pircher
Hoect

It will be interesting to see how our biggest overall team concern shakes out after the final cuts and practice squad additions.

Since we only seem to be eight or nine deep with starters and genuine backups, I would be almost surprised if they didn't pick up a teams late round cut that has a little more experience than our backups.

Our perspective gameday actives at this point;
The designated starting five and;
Noteboom T/G
Anchrum G/T
And ?

I feel pretty good with this group.

 

[OldSchool]

The great news about our offensive line is that all of our starters have starting experience or are trending upward.

(IMO), every one of our backups are trending upward and on schedule in their development, (with the exception of Evans and possibly Brewer);
Noteboom
Anchrum

And we have some great candidates for the practice squad that could develop out as well;
A. Jackson
Shelton
Meredith
Kolone
Pircher
Hoect

It will be interesting to see how our biggest overall team concern shakes out after the final cuts and practice squad additions.

Since we only seem to be eight or nine deep with starters and genuine backups, I would be almost surprised if they didn't pick up a teams late round cut that has a little more experience than our backups.

Our perspective gameday actives at this point;
The designated starting five and;
Noteboom T/G
Anchrum G/T
And ?

I feel pretty good with this group.

Think we have kept 7 game day active which would make Corbett the game day backup at Center.