Rams OL vs Raiders

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A lot to say about this group I think it deserves its own thread.

First off, Evans is a mess. Pretty telling that when Anchrum went down, they replace him with Brewer instead of putting Evans there at his natural RT position. Brewer didn't help, he got constantly beat. Evans in the 3rd and 4th qtr couldn't even block Raider 3rd stringer DL.

I think part of the reason McVay left Perkins in the whole game was for his scrambling ability. Hodges would have been ate up behind Rams OL.

Holding, false starts, hands to the face, awful.

Some positives: Shelton looked OK at C, Anchrum looked solid again at RT. Aleric Jackson pass blocking looked better.

I'd like to see more Jordan Merideth at G.
 

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We needed some hits on our dice rolls, but keep whiffing--Evans, Brewer. Merideth looks like he can do this but is a year or 2 away. Anchor Em seems solid at least.

I really hope we don't try to roll with who we have rn. All these beast DL, MLBs, and edgers teams have been loading up on the last few drafts are going to start making an impact this year.
 

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I’m back to my building the perfect beast. I didn’t watch Rams Raiders but followed the Gamecast on ESPN. Waiver Wire Watch.
1). RB 1B - I dont like Hendo as a workhorse so we need a TB 1B for 12-15 touches a game. Jones maybe. Funk no. Calais is injured. So we need a durable vet who can pass block, catch an occasional pass snd get the tough yards up the middle. Not picking one (maybe 2 if they put Funk on PS) would be a huge mistake.
2). IOL. By all accounts Evans is heading towards bust, Brewer is not cutting it and Shelton is TBD. They need to add a OC/OG or face moving tackles inside (Anchrum , AJax, Note) in case of an injury. Find another Corbett type which will require a trade.
3). EDGE. Floyd/Hollins/OBO are 3/4 of the squad. If Lewis needs to go on IR then we have Lawler/Garrett as depth. I say select one and stash the other on the PS BUT pick up a legit vet EDGE from the waiver wire.

In my opinion we are solid everywhere else.
 

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I'm also less worried about Oline depth than others. Noteboom is our back up tackle (perhaps just LT) and can play LG in a pickle. As long as Anchrum is fine with leg, I think we have a guy who can play RT/RG and possibly LG. Shelton can be an okay center but if something happens to Allen for more than a game or two, I think Corbett moves over.

I don't know many teams that have the depth to deal with more than two guys going down on the line for more than a few weeks (poor KC in the SB) so I think that's the best you can reasonably hope for.
 

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That crew seemed to be dialed in on our OL. Not making excuses here, there were penalties and they need to be better, but they were dealing with a one-sided standard IMO.

What impressed me about the OL last night was the overall teamwork they played with. There were a lot of good snaps by them as a group. Lot of good pass pro where the QB had time which is a testament to them and the staff. So as irritated as I was by the penalties them holding up like they did without (as many of) the jailbreaks and turnstile blocks that are so common with lower roster OL was impressive.

I feel better about Carberry right now than I did this time last week. Basically.

Denver is gonna be rough. They'll probably pull Anchrum out. How they shuffle I would think Evans kicks outside to OT but I expected that in this game so who knows. Meredith getting more looks at OG would be nice I agree. This roster is just about set, they just need to decide if they want to cut bait on Evans or give him more time.
 

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I don't know many teams that have the depth to deal with more than two guys going down on the line for more than a few weeks (poor KC in the SB) so I think that's the best you can reasonably hope for.
I think if Allen has indeed gone through a transformation, we'll be okay. Otherwise I think the "depth" is a blurrier situation. Especially when thinking beyond just this season, with retirement and free agency coming up.
 

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IOL. By all accounts Evans is heading towards bust,

I can't recall seeing a player digress that much at his age.
I keep hearing "bust" and talk about draft status being thrown around Evans. He was a late 5th rounder if I recall. There is no such thing as a fifth round bust. Especially if he has taken NFL snaps at ANY position. And draft status? What draft status does a fifth rounder hold?

I think we all hoped he'd progress but moving on from a fifth rounder is almost not worth talking about.
 

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I keep hearing "bust" and talk about draft status being thrown around Evans. He was a late 5th rounder if I recall. There is no such thing as a fifth round bust. Especially if he has taken NFL snaps at ANY position. And draft status? What draft status does a fifth rounder hold?

I think we all hoped he'd progress but moving on from a fifth rounder is almost not worth talking about.

Evans was a third round pick. Same class as Edwards (the actual fifth round pick.)
 

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Evans was a third round pick. Same class as Edwards (the actual fifth round pick.)
He is a back up... For a late 3rd rd (97th pick) not horrible and likely better suited for RT.

I hear fans wanting to trade for Andre Dillard, who was a first rounder, and has done nothing in 3 yrs... Can't stay healthy and when he does his play has been bad. Now that's a bust.
 

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He is a back up... For a late 3rd rd (97th pick) not horrible and likely better suited for RT.

I hear fans wanting to trade for Andre Dillard, who was a first rounder, and has done nothing in 3 yrs... Can't stay healthy and when he does his play has been bad. Now that's a bust.

I never said that Evans was a bust; I just mentioned that he was a third round pick.

He still has the preseason, at the very least, to hopefully improve his play. But I am very concerned about our offensive line depth. Allen's going to have to really prove me wrong, and Anchrum and Noteboom are the only proven decent depth (and Noteboom can really only play left tackle). Shelton isn't proven, Jackson and Meredith are rookies, Brewer has been a colossal disappointment, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about Evans and Allen.
 

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I never said that Evans was a bust; I just mentioned that he was a third round pick.

He still has the preseason, at the very least, to hopefully improve his play. But I am very concerned about our offensive line depth. Allen's going to have to really prove me wrong, and Anchrum and Noteboom are the only proven decent depth (and Noteboom can really only play left tackle). Shelton isn't proven, Jackson and Meredith are rookies, Brewer has been a colossal disappointment, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about Evans and Allen.
Would not be surprised that along with a vet, bigger RB, that also a vet interior OL will be added via a cheap trade or as a free agent. Remember that vets of more than 4 yrs don't go through waivers. They receive an out right release. So they can grab a vet looking for a ring.
 

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Due to the OG Evans situation ( currently failing big as our top swing OG), there might be some out-of-box plug-in plans available not yet mentioned.

I would NOT forget that Andrew Whitworth's initial seasons with the Bengals were involved heavily @ LG before the big switch in year 4 to LT & the awarded pro bowl. The point is if there were an injury to one of our starting OG's say it was Edwards, I could see Noteboom taking over full-time duties @ LT to start, Alaric Jackson moving into LT reserve position & Whitworth into starting LG for the needed time period.

If the injury was RG Corbett who misses time I can see Edwards flipping back to RG with Whitworth taking over Edward's post. This would put your best remaining Ram OL'ers on the field.

Carberry should be able to select a much less experienced younger but promising OL'er to be what they need in a long-term Swing OG as the season progresses that Evans will never be.
 

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Btw, roster cuts... Waiver/ Release rules.

  • Waived - A non-vested player (less than four years of service) who is terminated goes through waivers. When he is released another team can claim him within a certain period of time. A vested veteran only goes through the waiver system from the trading deadline in midseason through the end of the season. During the offseason and all the way up to the trading deadline, a vested veteran gets released.
  • Released - A vested veteran is free when he is terminated and can sign with any club. Keep in mind, if the termination takes place between the end of the trading deadline and the end of the calendar year, the player goes through waivers. A vested veteran released this time of year is free to sign with any team.
  • Cut - An unofficial term for being terminated and one of the above two categories applies.
 

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Oopsie. Still not sure a late third rounder is worthy of the term bust at any position.
On a team where first round picks are a distant memory and the GM hordes 6th rounders like they are gold, 3rd rounders can bust on the Rams!