Rams meeting with Jalen Milroe

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Milroe just feels like he's going to need time in this league, because if you're not to a certain point of development as a passer defenses at this level will just punish you. Dart is the same due to the system he played in, just too many unknowns to presume he is ready.
Oh I agree neither of those guys are ready. I actually think the QB who could probably step in and play right away is Sanders. But I also think he has a lower ceiling and brings along other baggage. Now mind you, stepping in right away doesnt mean CJ Stroud level, but like a Jacoby Brissett level
 

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Shrager likes to make people think he’s good friends with McVay. He uses that to sell his Rams takes. He also claimed earlier that April that the Rams were taking an offensive player and if they didn’t stand pat it would be Tyler Guyton.

I don’t like Shrager. It’s BS to try to sell some acquaintance with a coach as a close friendship. I said it last year and stand by it. McVay, Snead or anyone else involved in the Rams scouting and draft process aren’t telling this guy or any other reporter Jack shit until after the draft.

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He later did a mock draft and put an OT in it, but that was the original statement.
 

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Oh I agree neither of those guys are ready. I actually think the QB who could probably step in and play right away is Sanders. But I also think he has a lower ceiling and brings along other baggage. Now mind you, stepping in right away doesnt mean CJ Stroud level, but like a Jacoby Brissett level
I don’t have faith in any of them becoming stars in the NFL…. not even Ward. Where would Ward be drafted in 2024?
 

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I don’t have faith in any of them becoming stars in the NFL…. not even Ward. Where would Ward be drafted in 2024?
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That Hurricanes team is trash without him on it. I get it that folks are down on the QB's in the draft but Ward is as good as any coming out lately IMO
 

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Also what is crazy here is when you look at each team and ask the question of whether they need a QB. And as that pertains to the teams at the top of the draft can you assume the QBs like let's say Shough, Milroe, Dart, etc will be on the board end of round 1? Because if not then you're quickly deeper into what should be midround options due to the lack of QB value at the top.

For example here's the first round courtesy of tankathon:

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We have Tennessee looking hard at Cam and it seems he may go at the top. Browns I presume would take the elite Edge, however they also need a QB. NY (both teams) need QB. Vegas needs QB. New Orleans needs QB. That's 6/10 teams in the top third alone, and while obviously all of them won't reach for a QB it's likely we see Cam go off in the top 3 so you have a lot of desperation at play here.

Also in the teens you have teams like Dallas, Indy, Arizona, Seattle who either need QB or will soon whether they realize it or not. So maybe ten teams total before Pittsburgh is on the clock who could potentially pull the trigger if they like one of these QBs.

IF teams don't reach for QB up top... Then we may be talking trade down options for the Rams as those early choosing teams vye to get back into late round one to get the option they prefer. 20s may end up being "QB reachville." I wouldn't hate this scenario, as it then allows the Rams to get one of them if McVay prefers. And to me not only do I want a QB on the depth chart who has some upside to him due to Stafford and the issues we've had for two offseasons running, but I also want McVay to be energized by that young QB presence he can pour into. But if they don't like any of the options then move down should be available.
 

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Oh I agree neither of those guys are ready. I actually think the QB who could probably step in and play right away is Sanders. But I also think he has a lower ceiling and brings along other baggage. Now mind you, stepping in right away doesnt mean CJ Stroud level, but like a Jacoby Brissett level
Yeah I keep calling Sanders the black Kirk Cousins and think that's his likely level of play. But what concerns me about him is the extent dumpy pass options were utilized, he made really quick decisions but how much of that was schemed for him. Teams know this stuff though of course, so if he drops it will be partly his value as well as maybe teams questioning the scheme.
 

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After Daniels and Caleb and before Maye
That Hurricanes team is trash without him on it. I get it that folks are down on the QB's in the draft but Ward is as good as any coming out lately IMO
He was projected as a third round pick if he had entered the draft last year. I think Ward would have gone after Nix
 

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He was projected as a third round pick if he had entered the draft last year. I think Ward would have gone after Nix
Oh, I didnt realize that was the question, I thought you were comparing the player today to last years draft. He did the smart thing and stayed in school to improve his draft stock. Likewise, had Jayden Daniels went in the 2023 draft, he probably would have been a 5th-7th rounder
 

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Yeah I keep calling Sanders the black Kirk Cousins and think that's his likely level of play. But what concerns me about him is the extent dumpy pass options were utilized, he made really quick decisions but how much of that was schemed for him. Teams know this stuff though of course, so if he drops it will be partly his value as well as maybe teams questioning the scheme.
Could just call him Kirk Cousins 2.0....
I fear Sanders ceiling is more along the lines of Case Keenum
 

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Opportunity cost though... If Milroe hits and is a franchise QB caliber player, he's worth 4 first round picks. Campbell hits and is a top 3 ILB in the league and is still only worth about a second round pick to most teams. Just something to take into consideration when you're having these conversations.
This may be true ..... but, which player gives you the most impact this season to get to the SuperBowl?
 

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What I take out of the AI paraphrased quote from Snead below is that the drafting of Milroe doesn't mesh with their plans for the Draft.

" Les Snead, speaking about the 2025 NFL Draft, has emphasized that the Los Angeles Rams are seeking players from major conferences who are ready to contribute immediately, suggesting a preference for ready-made NFL-caliber talent. He has also expressed a desire for players who can play a significant role from day one. "
 

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Nope, slow thinker. We are not drafting this guy.
Brains is a QBs most crucial asset. Especially playing for a coach like McVay. Just listening to Stafford repeat McVays long winded codes for incoming plays its apparent that his QBs need a 120+ IQ to survive.
Maybe that was a issue with Goff ? What was that weird thing he said about the sun on Hard Knocks ?
 

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Nope, slow thinker. We are not drafting this guy.
Brains is a QBs most crucial asset. Especially playing for a coach like McVay. J

I have posted half-a-dozen times that I hope the Rams do not draft a quarterback next week.

So, this is not a PRO Jalen Milroe response. Personally, I hate the lack of accuracy.

Milroe graduated (Cum Laude) from Alabama in December 2023 (that's less than four years), with a 3.52 GPA. Having gotten his undergraduate degree early, Milroe began pursuing a Masters Degree.

Now Academic Smart and on-field/Athletic Smart are definitely not the same thing.

But to say Milroe is a 'slow thinker' ... NOPE!

Now I am taking a Huge Risk here and being Extremely Controversial by disagreeing with your Inside Source ... Music-City-Dan@marketm14983672.

It's like I am disagreeing with Vince Lombardi on how to run the power-sweep!!!
 

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I have posted half-a-dozen times that I hope the Rams do not draft a quarterback next week.

So, this is not a PRO Jalen Milroe response. Personally, I hate the lack of accuracy.

Milroe graduated (Cum Laude) from Alabama in December 2023 (that's less than four years), with a 3.52 GPA. Having gotten his undergraduate degree early, Milroe began pursuing a Masters Degree.

Now Academic Smart and on-field/Athletic Smart are definitely not the same thing.

But to say Milroe is a 'slow thinker' ... NOPE!

Now I am taking a Huge Risk here and being Extremely Controversial by disagreeing with your Inside Source ... Music-City-Dan@marketm14983672.

It's like I am disagreeing with Vince Lombardi on how to run the power-sweep!!!
I am not disagreeing with you but I am just posting a what if post.

Being extremely smart and being able to read defenses quickly are completely different skills.

Maybe he is very slow to read defenses. I don't know. Have not watched enough of his games to really get an accurate read on him.

But maybe that is what Gogoat is implying.
 

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I am not disagreeing with you but I am just posting a what if post.

Being extremely smart and being able to read defenses quickly are completely different skills.

Maybe he is very slow to read defenses. I don't know. Have not watched enough of his games to really get an accurate read on him.

But maybe that is what Gogoat is implying.

Which is why my response contained the following sentence:
"Now Academic Smart and on-field/Athletic Smart are definitely not the same thing."

Isn't that pretty-much Exactly what you wrote above?