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Memento said:
Dawson is infinitely better than McKinney. Just an overall better linebacker and player. He seriously reminds me of a mix between Lavonte David and Vontaze Burfict (although Burfict is admittedly because people devalued him after his Combine performance because of his performance in shorts and in interviews). I'd much rather have Dawson in the third than McKinney in the second after trading up.

As for Quinten Rollins, the kid is not nearly as raw as you think he is, @Elmgrovegnome . He was a four-year basketball player at Miami (Ohio) who ranked second all time in steals before he came in and blew the MAC away. He's physical, a ballhawk, and all of his issues with technique are correctable. In my opinion, in pure talent alone, Rollins is the top all-around cornerback in this class. He's later to the game than the other top-rated cornerbacks (Waynes, Peters, Williams), but in my honest opinion, he'll be better than all of them. Well worth a late second.
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I just think it is difficult to make up for that much lost time with Rollins, when he wasn't anywhere near a football field. Sure he has great physical talent and played well at a MAC school. He will be facing much better than MAC quality receivers in the NFL with every team he plays against. I think it will take him time to get up to speed mentally, with how fast the NFL game is played and if it takes him two or three years then why take him in round 2? There is a good chance that the Rams can get a starter out of round 2 that will contribute right away.
Round 3 or later is perfect for guys like Rollins, I bet every team in the league would like to wait till then on him, but teams that like his potential will feel the need to take him in round 2 to beat the crowd. I would rather that not be the Rams unless somehow they end up with multiple second and third round picks.
 
V3 said:
I don't think the Rams like Scherff. From everything I've read or heard, they haven't had any meetings or visits with him. The Rams have a track record of taking players they meet with. I think they're hoping one of the two top WR's falls to them and if not they look to trade down for a different OL like Peat or possibly take WR Parker. I think an ILB is also a possibility if they can trade down.
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Good point, but they also didn't have a pre draft visit with Martin last year and by all accounts he was a Ram target. They could have a good handle of what they think Scherff can do and are not conducting a visit because there are no real red flags.

I am with you though, I hope one of the 2 WR fall but not counting on it lol.
 
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Memento said:
Dawson is infinitely better than McKinney. Just an overall better linebacker and player. He seriously reminds me of a mix between Lavonte David and Vontaze Burfict (although Burfict is admittedly because people devalued him after his Combine performance because of his performance in shorts and in interviews). I'd much rather have Dawson in the third than McKinney in the second after trading up.

As for Quinten Rollins, the kid is not nearly as raw as you think he is, @Elmgrovegnome . He was a four-year basketball player at Miami (Ohio) who ranked second all time in steals before he came in and blew the MAC away. He's physical, a ballhawk, and all of his issues with technique are correctable. In my opinion, in pure talent alone, Rollins is the top all-around cornerback in this class. He's later to the game than the other top-rated cornerbacks (Waynes, Peters, Williams), but in my honest opinion, he'll be better than all of them. Well worth a late second.
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I wont be surprised at all if Rollins develops into one of the best cover corners in this draft. You pretty much have him pegged the same way I would describe him.
 
Memento said:
Dawson is infinitely better than McKinney. Just an overall better linebacker and player. He seriously reminds me of a mix between Lavonte David and Vontaze Burfict (although Burfict is admittedly because people devalued him after his Combine performance because of his performance in shorts and in interviews). I'd much rather have Dawson in the third than McKinney in the second after trading up.

As for Quinten Rollins, the kid is not nearly as raw as you think he is, @Elmgrovegnome . He was a four-year basketball player at Miami (Ohio) who ranked second all time in steals before he came in and blew the MAC away. He's physical, a ballhawk, and all of his issues with technique are correctable. In my opinion, in pure talent alone, Rollins is the top all-around cornerback in this class. He's later to the game than the other top-rated cornerbacks (Waynes, Peters, Williams), but in my honest opinion, he'll be better than all of them. Well worth a late second.
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If we could get Dawson in the third, I don't know how you don't pull the trigger on that!
 
Fix the line. The defense is good enough to win now. The offense isn't close. If we don't fix the line it won't matter how good the defense is.
 
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Boston Ram said:
Good point, but they also didn't have a pre draft visit with Martin last year and by all accounts he was a Ram target. They could have a good handle of what they think Scherff can do and are not conducting a visit because there are no real red flags.

I am with you though, I hope one of the 2 WR fall but not counting on it lol.
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True. Martin was behind both GRob and Donald though as BPA. They probably have one secret guy they covet, but I agree, the players they meet with is likely the pool on their bigboard unless a guy falls to them they weren't expecting to fall.

I'm praying for Cooper/White.
 
Athos said:
True. Martin was behind both GRob and Donald though as BPA. They probably have one secret guy they covet, but I agree, the players they meet with is likely the pool on their bigboard unless a guy falls to them they weren't expecting to fall.

I'm praying for Cooper/White.
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You and I both!
 
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FRO said:
Fix the line. The defense is good enough to win now. The offense isn't close. If we don't fix the line it won't matter how good the defense is.
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Who says that they can't do both?
 
I wouldn't necessarily look to much into Scherff not meeting with the Rams. Last year Mike Evans never met with Tampa. And the Raiders never met with Mack.

So don't get to discouraged if your a Scherff fan.
 
If he represents an upgrade on defense, then I'm all for the team maneuvering around to obtain his services. While the defense may be ahead of the offense, they still haven't arrived. I'm not sure anyone else has noticed, but despite all the hype and the defense has still been the worst in the division.

Shoot. The Arizona Cardinals have had a similar or perhaps even worse OLine situations than the Rams, but keep winning double digit games with their top 5-7 rated defenses.
 
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With no trades...

1) Peat
2) Rollins
3) Dawson
4) Shaq Mason

Is that terrible? Wanted to find a solid RG in the fourth...he seemed to fit the bill.
 
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I like McKinney, but don't think we can afford to take him with our needs.
 
Right now Rams have JL, Bates , Dunabr & Alec Ogletree...all of them have played ILB'er in their past & are on the roster & signed.

This just makes no sense:cautious:
 
Memphis Ram said:
If he represents an upgrade on defense, then I'm all for the team maneuvering around to obtain his services. While the defense may be ahead of the offense, they still haven't arrived. I'm not sure anyone else has noticed, but despite all the hype and the defense has still been the worst in the division.

Shoot. The Arizona Cardinals have had a similar or perhaps even worse OLine situations than the Rams, but keep winning double digit games with their top 5-7 rated defenses.
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Interesting observation. I agree that for all of the time and personnel that has gone into building the defense, there is something missing that keeps them from being a top ten defense. My theory is that it lacks dominance at key positions. They need a more vocal leader who can fire people up, A La Rey Lewis, LT, Strahan, Lynch. They need a lock down corner or Safety to inspire the backfield. A flub a game by the best player is not inspiring, bickering about who should have covered who is not inspiring. They may have found their leader on the DLine in Donald and Long is that now, but for how long. If McKinney is a real leader maybe he is what they need. Mosely seemed to fit the bill last year.
 
DaveFan'51 said:
Personally I have McKinney as my #2 MLB, behind Stephone Anthony.

They have brought in Safety Damarus Randall - Ariz. Sparq score 121.8, if I'm not mistaken!
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That can't be right. He's a FS. Why would they bring him in?
 
BonifayRam said:
Right now Rams have JL, Bates , Dunabr & Alec Ogletree...all of them have played ILB'er in their past & are on the roster & signed.

This just makes no sense:cautious:
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Just because they played ILB doesn't mean they're suited for it. JL also has limitations and is expensive. They've been looking for his replacement since at least last draft. It makes a lot of sense to me. Their plans for O-line make little sense to me, though.
 
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