Rams Designate Justin Hollins For Return

[dang]

I’m gonna go on record and state that I believe Reeder is doing the absolute best that he can. Also that he does make the occasional nice play moving forward to plug a hole or cut off a run lane. Where he consistently fails is in moving laterally, changing direction or making tackles in open space. The real shame is that the Rams have left themselves with such a big hole at ILB that they continue to use Reeder significantly for 3 damn years. It’s gotten to a point that any NFL team paying any attention can exploit this deficiency and gain a significant edge using a run heavy or 5-8 yard pass heavy game plan.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Not sure why people think he's gonna play MLB? Did mcVay ever allude to it?

He did, as I recall.

I'm not sure if that's Hollin's premier position however.

 

[Jacobarch]

He did, as I recall.

I'm not sure if that's Hollin's premier position however.

He said he's practiced there. Far cry from actually taking snaps there

 

[Psycho_X]

I'm not sure if that's Hollin's premier position however.

It's not but his spot is suddenly filled with Von Miller and with Obo playing very well the last month and Lewis as capable backup the question becomes... even if Hollins is playing out of position at ILB is he an upgrade over Reeder thus giving us 11 best players on the field as much as possible?

He might be worse, I don't know and like mentioned it's probably more of a rotation of Reeder, Jones, and Hollins depending on down and distance. I'm sure the Rams will try it out in practice at the very least. Would just be a shame to waste Hollins (or one of the other OLB'ers) the rest of the season by burying him on the depth chart.

 

[Soul Surfer]

He said he's practiced there. Far cry from actually taking snaps there

OK.
So we know he has played there and he has practiced there.
And we know we have a need there.
And McVay mentioned he might play there.

I'm not sure how that's a, "far cry" from anything.

 

[FaulkSF]

OK.
So we know he has played there and he has practiced there.
And we know we have a need there.
And McVay mentioned he might play there.

I'm not sure how that's a, "far cry" from anything.

Hollins also will have a couple weeks to practice the position before he's elevated to the 53. It would make a lot of sense for Morris & McVay to activate Hollins after this week.

Hopefully Hollins has taken some time to study the play book at that position during rehab.

 

[Jacobarch]

OK.
So we know he has played there and he has practiced there.
And we know we have a need there.
And McVay mentioned he might play there.

I'm not sure how that's a, "far cry" from anything.

I think he would be playing there if the Rams brass thought he'd be better than what we have. If you think it can't get any worse you're wrong. Reeder does some things well and some things he doesn't. Teams are certainly exploiting what he doesn't do well that's for sure. But it doesn't mean Hollins would be any better put in that position. And certainly not after coming off a substantial injury

Real problem is we shouldn't have let go of Young for a bag of peanuts. In reality we shouldn't have let him go at all

 

[Soul Surfer]

we shouldn't have let go of Young for a bag of peanuts. In reality we shouldn't have let him go at all

Well, here we totally agree.

But I never claimed that Hollins would be better than Reeder.

Only that McVay did mention it as a possibility.

 

[oldnotdead]

Hmm a lot of hate being directed at Reeder again. Compare his production vs Levonte David MLB of the Bucs, rated by many to the #4 MLB in the NFL who plays 100% of the defensive snaps.

Not including this game:
Troy Reeder: average 58% defensive snaps this year
30 solo 31 combined - 61 tackles
2 INTs & 4 PD
3 TFL & 1 QB hit

Levonte David: 100% defensive snaps this year
43 solo 28 combine - 71 tackles
0 INTs & 3 PD
2 TFL 3 QB hits

As I've said before, Reeder's production is on par with some of the best MLBs in the NFL. Yet people continue to complain? He's better than most realize. I would be surprised if the Rams don't tender him next year as he will be a RFA. They can do a second-round tender to entice an offer because Ernest Jones has looked good this year.

That said, as a FA Reeder will have no shortage of interest. So IMO even without a tender, the Rams should get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick.

 

[Kupped]

Hmm a lot of hate being directed at Reeder again. Compare his production vs Levonte David MLB of the Bucs, rated by many to the #4 MLB in the NFL who plays 100% of the defensive snaps.

Not including this game:
Troy Reeder: average 58% defensive snaps this year
30 solo 31 combined - 61 tackles
2 INTs & 4 PD
3 TFL & 1 QB hit

Levonte David: 100% defensive snaps this year
43 solo 28 combine - 71 tackles
0 INTs & 3 PD
2 TFL 3 QB hits

As I've said before, Reeder's production is on par with some of the best MLBs in the NFL. Yet people continue to complain? He's better than most realize. I would be surprised if the Rams don't tender him next year as he will be a RFA. They can do a second-round tender to entice an offer because Ernest Jones has looked good this year.

That said, as a FA Reeder will have no shortage of interest. So IMO even without a tender, the Rams should get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick.

I’m not at all a Troy Reeder “hater”…

But comparing him to Lavonte David is just beyond silly.

They’re not in the same tier.

 

[oldnotdead]

Their production would seem to say otherwise.

 

[Kupped]

Their production would seem to say otherwise.

Anyone who has watched both players and understand their impact would not.

 

[OntarioRam]

Hmm a lot of hate being directed at Reeder again. Compare his production vs Levonte David MLB of the Bucs, rated by many to the #4 MLB in the NFL who plays 100% of the defensive snaps.

Not including this game:
Troy Reeder: average 58% defensive snaps this year
30 solo 31 combined - 61 tackles
2 INTs & 4 PD
3 TFL & 1 QB hit

Levonte David: 100% defensive snaps this year
43 solo 28 combine - 71 tackles
0 INTs & 3 PD
2 TFL 3 QB hits

As I've said before, Reeder's production is on par with some of the best MLBs in the NFL. Yet people continue to complain? He's better than most realize. I would be surprised if the Rams don't tender him next year as he will be a RFA. They can do a second-round tender to entice an offer because Ernest Jones has looked good this year.

That said, as a FA Reeder will have no shortage of interest. So IMO even without a tender, the Rams should get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick.

I actually like most of your posts, and feel the forum needs more posters on it that are not wearing rose-coloured glasses for the Rams. But I strongly disagree here.

The Rams actively try to hide Troy Reeder many games. Opposing OCs often try to create mismatches against Reeder in coverage.

Nobody is having to "hide" Lavonte David with any level of consistency.

There is more to assessing a linebacker than just looking at this tackle numbers.

David also plays alongside White, who is arguably the best in the game, and is going to make it tough for others to really rack up the tackles because White would already be first on the scene.

I actually like Troy Reeder. High motor. Underrated blitzer in particular IMO. But he has obvious limitations and is not ideally a starter. In a salary cap world, however, you have to prioritise positions. The Rams do not seem to prioritise ILB. I think that is an error. We are are vulnerable enough to smash-mouth opponents as it is, and have to play the 49s multiple times per season being in the NFC West. Having a thumper at ILB would go a long way in those games. I could understand neglecting ILB a bit more if we were in a different division.

 

[wolfdogg]

Their production would seem to say otherwise.

I'd be interested in seeing how many yards past the line of scrimmage those solo tackles are. If David is making them at 3 yards and Reeder 5 yards, that's significant difference

Also OC s are probably more likely to run at or near Reeder than david

 

[Tano]

I'd be interested in seeing how many yards past the line of scrimmage those solo tackles are. If David is making them at 3 yards and Reeder 5 yards, that's significant difference

Also OC s are probably more likely to run at or near Reeder than david

I have always stated that Stats done mean shit when not taken in context with the situation itself

 

[VegasRam]

I have always stated that Stats done mean shit when not taken in context with the situation itself

And I've always agreed.

 

[Psycho_X]

A lot more Ernest Jones being used as nickel linebacker and it showed a lot yesterday. Reeder is awful in that role and Jones looked like a mad man running sideline to sideline. Jones stepping into that role was a big level up for our defense against the Jags at least. Hopefully the rookie can build off of it. In short yardage situations bring in the bigger Reeder/Hollins combo at ILB otherwise Jones and Rapp in nickel and passing situations and leave Reeder off the field.

 

[Mackeyser]

Jones is gonna be a PLAYER for us, that's for sure.