Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson

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Fire Ants said:
Again, I think he was just being respectful to Stafford by not looking overjoyed.
Simple as that.

...but hopefully after the pick Stafford didn't send him a text informing him of his thoughts of retirement. :wow2:
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From aaaaallllllll the way back on page 16 - and obviously based on my wording I mentioned it somewhere else even before this.

All the other stuff I might have mentioned is for discussion purposes - even so, McVay nevertheless looks down.

And by the way - NATIONAL MEDIA is all over this, so it's not like it's just a couple of guys on this forum that noticed something looks amiss.
 
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WestCoastRam said:
Agree.

Apropos of whatever it's just so fascinating to me how people on here lose their minds when the process doesn't seem to be completely 100% clean.

I guess if we took Simpson at the bottom of the 1st for future picks, had mcVay zoom the kid multiple times, had a ebullient press conference and had talking heads saying it was a genius move then people would love the pick (oh God, some people would still go nuts!).

I have significant reservations about this working (and honestly, if I was a fan of another team I'd be laughing) but also at least see what the process was and a lane for the kid to be good. (I think it's real pie in the sky stuff to think the kid is going to be GREAT though).
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I expect him to be good - top 12-15 range - but have a sliver of hope that he will be great because I do believe that the mental part, his football IQ, is great.

My simple eval of QBs are arms, legs, and head. Most fans and even most media experts tend to put the head/mental part last or not talk about it at all. I rate that highest when evaluating a QB.
 
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Mojo Ram said:
Sure, the end result is the same statistically. It goes deeper than that though. A typical successful Rams scoring drive looks like Stafford’s arm and Puka acrobatics moving the chains 80 yards to paydirt and Kyren punching it in 2 yards out.

A lot can go wrong with that model. More to the point, that’s a lot of pressure on the QB and playcaller to sustain these long drives with almost no threat of your RB, TE or WR taking one of those 10 or 12 plays to the house so your 38 yr old QB can go sit down.

As to your question, these playmakers are available nearly every year. Draft, FA, traded. The Rams since ‘22 have appeared to value other football traits much higher than pure playmaking. That strategy has worked in terms of rebuilding the roster quickly with solid players. My point is that as of today, it’s time to pivot a bit from that and inject traits that this offense simply doesn’t have.

Im not sure how half of the fanbase doesn’t see that. I assume they watch other games and offenses. This is a slowish, deliberate offense that is so reliant on Stafford and Puka to make plays and score. Besides Puka there are no players on offense who can regularly win one on one or strike fear into a defense. It wins with execution, solid players and an elite QB but it’s flawed.
McVay and his coaches have done an incredible job here.

Maybe step back and look at it objectively.

I don’t hate the Simpson player at all. I watched almost 4 hrs of material on him last night before bedtime. Including the QB school episode with Gruden. Simpson was impressive. He needs more coaching and he’ll get it.

I don’t like the pick at 13 in this draft, this year.
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I have been right with you on this. lets hope they get that threat we want today.
 
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Dodgersrf said:
Half of the players in the 1st round may bust.
Until they all get on the field with NFL talent, they are nothing more than prospects.
Sure TY may be a bust, but many others will as well.


It’s ironic, that RBs possibly have the highest 1st rnd success rate, yet are now considered a reach in the 1st.
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At least we get to wait 3 or 4 years before we start to find out if Simpson is a bust.
 
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Mojo Ram said:
Sure, the end result is the same statistically. It goes deeper than that though. A typical successful Rams scoring drive looks like Stafford’s arm and Puka acrobatics moving the chains 80 yards to paydirt and Kyren punching it in 2 yards out.

A lot can go wrong with that model. More to the point, that’s a lot of pressure on the QB and playcaller to sustain these long drives with almost no threat of your RB, TE or WR taking one of those 10 or 12 plays to the house so your 38 yr old QB can go sit down.

As to your question, these playmakers are available nearly every year. Draft, FA, traded. The Rams since ‘22 have appeared to value other football traits much higher than pure playmaking. That strategy has worked in terms of rebuilding the roster quickly with solid players. My point is that as of today, it’s time to pivot a bit from that and inject traits that this offense simply doesn’t have.

Im not sure how half of the fanbase doesn’t see that. I assume they watch other games and offenses. This is a slowish, deliberate offense that is so reliant on Stafford and Puka to make plays and score. Besides Puka there are no players on offense who can regularly win one on one or strike fear into a defense. It wins with execution, solid players and an elite QB but it’s flawed.
McVay and his coaches have done an incredible job here.

Maybe step back and look at it objectively.

I don’t hate the Simpson player at all. I watched almost 4 hrs of material on him last night before bedtime. Including the QB school episode with Gruden. Simpson was impressive. He needs more coaching and he’ll get it.

I don’t like the pick at 13 in this draft, this year.
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I wholeheartedly agree with your overall point.

I said before last season we need to add an explosive element to the offense. To McVay's credit, they didn't and still had the #1 offense, but I still feel it's vital to inject that element.

The big problem is this: with the exception of Love, this is not the draft for it. I don't believe there was a player at 13 that would add that, and I don't see a player later that would be an immediate contributor who brings that element.
 
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Just having a bit of fun, is all~ Still all right with the pick; I just wanted to post this. :P
 
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Dodgersrf said:
My favorite part about drafting Simpson?
They don’t see Bennett as our future QB.
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My favorite part is that he seems like a decent prospect that won't be thrown to the wolves right away.

Yeah, some guys step right in and have some success, but I'd rather let a rookie QB get slowly acclimated.
 
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I don’t think there’s been this much controversy over a 1st rnd QB, since Aaron Rogers.
 
Ellard80 said:
Hoping there are still some trade options for wr out there or somev2nd rounder im not aware of. We are thin at wr.
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There's one thing this class has in abundance, and that's wide receivers. Boston probably won't be where we're selecting, but there's still Brazzell II, Bell, Bernard, Sarratt, Williams, Fields, Hurst, Lance, Stribling, and Branch (the latter of whom I don't want, but I've accepted that we're probably going to select him at #61 because Snead possibly has a hard-on for disappointing speedy wide receivers in the first two rounds).
 
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Spider2YB said:
Klatt makes a point that I’ve seen a few other people make…..if Simpson sits for 2 seasons, he will be going 6 full seasons with only 15 games played before making his first start. Not ideal.
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Did you hit your head on the way to your laptop before you wrote that? It might be the most sensible argument yoh have made even if it’s not your own
:)

Love player 26 games for Utah, a long long way from the SEC, and it worked out OK. He will be getting plenty of practice and will also allow Stafford more rest days

It’s a good point but I am not sure we should be too worried especially if he develops like they obviously think he will

Steve Young was a back up for several seasons and then had a hall of fame career so let’s not be too concerned even if it is a lesser concern
 
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TheTackle said:
Did you hit your head on the way to your laptop before you wrote that? It might be the most sensible argument yoh have made even if it’s not your own
:)

Love player 26 games for Utah, a long long way from the SEC, and it worked out OK. He will be getting plenty of practice and will also allow Stafford more rest days

It’s a good point but I am not sure we should be too worried especially if he develops like they obviously think he will

Steve Young was a back up for several seasons and then had a hall of fame career so let’s not be too concerned even if it is a lesser concern
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No we should definitely be worried because there’s not a track record of QBs with this little amount of playing experience working out. Outside of Cam Newton it literally doesn’t exist. And Ty Simpson isn’t exactly Cam Newton.

Dwyane Haskins, Mac Jones, Trey Lance, Mitchell Trubisky, Ryan Tannehill, Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray to name a few of the busts.
 
Fire Ants said:
LOL
The article confirms what I've been saying.
So you can admit you were wrong.
Duh...you have trouble reading?
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Explain how that article confirms your expertise in body language, whereby you told us McVay was clearly pissed off at the presser and couldn’t hide it?

I quote, “He could still look at little happy about the pick. And that little forced smile he executed was priceless”

While you are at it, please confirm whether you are 12 years old :-)
 
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