QB Hints

[PhillyRam]

Ok but that wasn't the statement it was draft guys develop them and ship them off for picks. You're saying we would draft a guy and develop him and ship Stafford off for picks that's a different story.

It's really about the ability or need for McVay to develop young QB's. It should be something that we should take advantage of.

 

[OldSchool]

It's really about the ability or need for McVay to develop young QB's. It should be something that we should take advantage of.

It's definitely on the list of things I wish McVay had done or would do.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Whoah, whoah, whoah.
I was with you and your plan until you wanted to draft a guy, who requires so much work, in the 1rst round.

Oh, that's Jori's suggestion, I'm not really into it but that's I think a way you talk yourself into Milroe for any team.

 

[den-the-coach]

Oh, that's Jori's suggestion, I'm not really into it but that's I think a way you talk yourself into Milroe for any team.

I don't. The only thing Milroe does well is run. He has small hands 8,75 plus can be inaccurate for days, IMHO, he is a backup at best, that might be able to come into a game and change it with his legs when the defense was preparing for someone else.

 

[OldSchool]

I don't. The only thing Milroe does well is run. He has small hands 8,75 plus can be inaccurate for days, IMHO, he is a backup at best, that might be able to come into a game and change it with his legs when the defense was preparing for someone else.

At the combine they measured over 9.

 

[den-the-coach]

At the combine they measured over 9.

Correct I see that in this article. Hard to explain because last time I checked, you cannot work on hand size, but then again I guess maybe it's who is doing the measuring?

Jalen Milroe's hand size is a half-inch bigger at the NFL combine than at the Senior Bowl

Nine inches is considered to be the acceptable hand size threshold for an NFL QB, and Milroe now measures just over that.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[OldSchool]

Correct I see that in this article. Hard to explain because last time I checked, you cannot work on hand size, but then again I guess maybe it's who is doing the measuring.

Jalen Milroe's hand size is a half-inch bigger at the NFL combine than at the Senior Bowl

Nine inches is considered to be the acceptable hand size threshold for an NFL QB, and Milroe now measures just over that.

sports.yahoo.com

You can do things to get a different result. The real interesting thing is he wasn't the only one measured different at the bowls than at the combine there were a whole lot of guys that were measured shorter/smaller at the bowls and then got a bigger result at the combine. Leads me to think there was something wrong at the bowl games. Also a lot of guys will be asked to measure at workouts and pro days.

 

[den-the-coach]

Leads me to think there was something wrong at the bowl games. Also a lot of guys will be asked to measure at workouts and pro days.

Find it amusing as 9 is considered acceptable and at the combine, he measured a little over 9. IDK, regardless, he is far too inconsistent for me, basically Kyle Boller with legs.

 

[dieterbrock]

Get a guy like Zach Wilson in the building for a year to personally evaluate him. Then, if they like him, give him a multi year backup QB contract that’s enough to entice him to stay.

Who is going to swoop in with a $50-$60 million deal for an unproven flop?

What if he has to play week 1? I love the idea of Wilson getting a chance to work with McVay but I wouldn’t be comfortable with him as the #2.

 

[den-the-coach]

What if he has to play week 1? I love the idea of Wilson getting a chance to work with McVay but I wouldn’t be comfortable with him as the #2.

I feel more comfortable with Wilson then some of the others in the past, but IMO, if Wilson is brought in I believe that would be as the number 2 option because I don't believe they would sign Garoppolo and Wilson.

 

[OldSchool]

Find it amusing as 9 is considered acceptable and at the combine, he measured a little over 9. IDK, regardless, he is far too inconsistent for me, basically Kyle Boller with legs.

If it wasn't for something like 50+ guys measuring smaller at the bowls I'd agree but since it was such a wide spread problem I tend to believe it was a bowl game mistake. As for the rest I'll leave that for others to discuss. I can however seeing our coach wanting to make this guy a Ram and develop him.

 

[dieterbrock]

I feel more comfortable with Wilson then some of the others in the past, but IMO, if Wilson is brought in I believe that would be as the number 2 option because I don't believe they would sign Garoppolo and Wilson.

That’s the problem. You bring him in, he has to be the #2. And if he had to play in the beginning of the year it would be a disaster. He was absolutely awful in NY and had Aaron Rodgers mentoring him. He’d need a lot of work.

 

[Flatlyner]

The way this draft is lining up... it is deep at TE and RB, which happens to be positions of need for us, so we would pick up some good ones in rd 3. We do need a WR, but there's just no one in the 1st rd worth the pick at #26. We kinda need CB, but we've done well recently to pick up Kinchens & Forbes & Witherspoon, who all improved down the stretch. So if needed, we *could* wait to pick a CB as well.
That leaves a window open for a possible QB pick at #26, which could be a wise move for the Rams. Sure, the draft for QB's next year looks awesome, but if we win our division again w/ Stafford?? no chance we get one anyway, unless we trade in all our 1sts for the next 3 years & throw in one of our best players to move up high enough to get Manning.
My basic criteria for finding a QB: which ones started last year (or year before), and the program improved & got more wins? and which ones started last year, and the program hit a slide?? (looking at you, Milroe)

Kinda need a CB? We are very shallow at CB with Spoon being a UFA. Williams also might be cut. Unless Forbes is showing what caused him to be picked so high, we are in bad need of a CB.

The Rams don’t have to draft a QB. They may just sign Zach Wilson to a three year deal and try to make him the QB of the future. He still has more potential than most of these QBs in this draft.

This I like. A 2 year prove it deal. I like him backing up Stafford and learning how to be a professional.

So much of what we're talking about here rests on a sliding doors moment in the draft:

- It's fairly reasonable given reporting to assume that Snead will want to trade down in the draft from 26
- We may not get a trade offer, it may not be good enough, we may end up staying at 26

For me, I mock for both and when I mock for a trade down, I mock an unfavorable trade since teams are gonna be reluctant to trade up in a flat talent class on the 1st and 2nd day.

Trading down makes unlocking finding a QB in the draft more likely even if I don't think it's very likely at all. And then, there's always a shot that a guy like Sanders is there at 26. I actually think it's a fair discussion to have about taking him there.

Yes, I've contemplated Sanders being there at #26, it seems to be a real possibility. IMO, McVay drafts him if he is there.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

What if he has to play week 1? I love the idea of Wilson getting a chance to work with McVay but I wouldn’t be comfortable with him as the #2.

It’s better than a rookie QB playing week 1.

I’d be willing to be willing to bet that he’d do better than Rypien. And it wouldn’t have to be Zach Wilson. I would have been happy if they were able to get Sam Howell. I just don’t like the possibilities that will be in this coming draft.

 

[OldSchool]

It’s better than a rookie QB playing week 1.

I’d be willing to be willing to bet that he’d do better than Rypien. And it wouldn’t have to be Zach Wilson. I would have been happy if they were able to get Sam Howell. I just don’t like the possibilities that will be in this coming draft.

For now Howell is the starting QB in Seattle and even if they sign somebody why would they trade their #2 who they're only paying $1 million.

 

[dieterbrock]

It’s better than a rookie QB playing week 1.

I’d be willing to be willing to bet that he’d do better than Rypien. And it wouldn’t have to be Zach Wilson. I would have been happy if they were able to get Sam Howell. I just don’t like the possibilities that will be in this coming draft.

A rookie wouldn’t be #2 though. I think they’d go with a vet, likely Garoppolo and draft a qb for #3. Can’t really do that with Wilson

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

A rookie wouldn’t be #2 though. I think they’d go with a vet, likely Garoppolo and draft a qb for #3. Can’t really do that with Wilson

I’m figuring some team out bids the Rams for Garapolo. He’s had a full year to get healthy and looked good against the Seahawks.

If the Jags have the cap space I could see Cohen stealing Jimmy. Plus there’s a few teams that need a starter. He’d fit the Browns as a cheap option

 

[dieterbrock]

I’m figuring some team out bids the Rams for Garapolo. He’s had a full year to get healthy and looked good against the Seahawks.

If the Jags have the cap space I could see Cohen stealing Jimmy. Plus there’s a few teams that need a starter. He’d fit the Browns as a cheap option

Good points. I always fear Miami offering Jimmy G a "backup starter" deal, with a good deal of incentives. Tua goes down again, with no decent backup, and McDaniel will be out o a job

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Good points. I always fear Miami offering Jimmy G a "backup starter" deal, with a good deal of incentives. Tua goes down again, with no decent backup, and McDaniel will be out o a job

Yeah, that’s another probable connection. I definitely want the Rams to retain him, Stafford isn’t that durable either.

One thing that works in the Rams favor is that Jimmy G loves being a Ram and seems to enjoy LA, which also happens to a big hub for the porn industry.

 

[20hrswk]

We all agree they haven't ever done much with McVay at backup QB.

You can't win SBs (usually) with QBs you draft in the 2nd+ round/sign as a backup and have them Learn/mature watching your starter.
(unless you have a great defense that carries your team)

You win SBs with first round QBs or QBs you acquire in huge trades.