Puka Injury Thread (merged)

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Puka looked like he was on his way to being mentioned in the MVP talk.

The Rams have helped him overcome his personal weaknesses for the time being. The clean cut short haircut this year was a clear sign he knew he had to change. My guess McVay had much to do with that.

Rams will pay and Puka will agree.
 
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Puka dodged a bullet with his recent injury. But it was severe enough to make him think twice about playing again this season without a new contract.

I admire him for putting his body on the line all game, every game. But after this injury his agent will surely be giving him some hard truths.

Does puka play again this season?

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Are you asking if it made Puka consider not playing without a new contract or stating it as something factual?
 
Different contract situations. JSN still had two years of low cost when he signed his 4 year extension. So his new contract doesn’t truly kick in until 2028 (2 years later).

If/when Puka signs, that deal starts immediately in 2027. Unless it’s added on sometime after the one year 2027 tag.
You can still backload it. Give him a small base salary, and a large signing bonus. Prorate the signing bonus with some void years. Then jump up the base in the 2nd & 3rd year, etc...
 
I don't think it will be that hard of a decision. The Rams will pay Puka. It's a matter of when, not if.
He will be a restricted free agent next year. They have to come to an agreement before next season starts.

If he has more off field issues, it’s a conversation.
The injury part? It’s football. They also need to start being smarter with usage. I don’t wanna see nearly as many screens in the future for him. Or runs.
Agree on smarter on usage.

Its easy, he's far and away your best player. Stop fuckin around and pay him. Pretty stupid not to.
Agree on best player.

These contracts have become very complicated (at least for me). The Rams are very good at working deals with some lower and some higher cap hit years. They Rams are great at working contract details. A 4 year deal which would be more like a 3 year with a low cap hit dead money 4th year. He is going to have to stay healthy for a couple of years. They would be on the hook for the full guaranteed money if Puka gets hurt. That's where it becomes more risky than a player that doesn't take the hit he does.

 
Puka has mentioned that he doesnt want to play past 30. When you're 22, 30 seems a long way away, so thoughts change.

Davante has encouraged Puka to do anything possible to stay with the Rams because he's seen how the rest of the NFL's teams are run. Plus you live in LA.
 
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If Rams don't give Puka the bag they have no soul.
Not only that, but who cares how much $$$ he’s going to command. It’s not your money. It’s not going to break the Rams.

Puka is only the second legitimate playmaker/star skill guy they’ve been able to draft in 10 years.

Pay the man.

As an aside, does anyone really think handing over the car keys to Simpson and this current group of skill guys minus Nacua is the way to go? Fuck no.
 
Not only that, but who cares how much $$$ he’s going to command. It’s not your money. It’s not going to break the Rams.

Puka is only the second legitimate playmaker/star skill guy they’ve been able to draft in 10 years.

Pay the man.

As an aside, does anyone really think handing over the car keys to Simpson and this current group of skill guys minus Nacua is the way to go? Fuck no.
You never go full retard and that would be full retard and some.
 
He will be a restricted free agent next year. They have to come to an agreement before next season starts.


Agree on smarter on usage.


Agree on best player.

These contracts have become very complicated (at least for me). The Rams are very good at working deals with some lower and some higher cap hit years. They Rams are great at working contract details. A 4 year deal which would be more like a 3 year with a low cap hit dead money 4th year. He is going to have to stay healthy for a couple of years. They would be on the hook for the full guaranteed money if Puka gets hurt. That's where it becomes more risky than a player that doesn't take the hit he does.
UFA in 27.
 
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As an aside, does anyone really think handing over the car keys to Simpson and this current group of skill guys minus Nacua is the way to go? Fuck no.

When they hand the keys to Simpson, the entire offense will be rebuilt around his skill set. Some of the pieces we have now may stay, but most of them won't.

Puka is a foundational piece that I'm sure will stay.
 
Not only that, but who cares how much $$$ he’s going to command. It’s not your money. It’s not going to break the Rams.

Puka is only the second legitimate playmaker/star skill guy they’ve been able to draft in 10 years.

Pay the man.

As an aside, does anyone really think handing over the car keys to Simpson and this current group of skill guys minus Nacua is the way to go? Fuck no.

Btw, I understand that many fans enjoy discussing the money and that’s fine. Im not one of them but have at it.
I get it. These contracts are too complicated for me. Not my money, but not always easy to get a deal done.

My point was and still is the guaranteed money on a player the Rams use and some might say obuse. The reliance on Puka and his playing style that make him a WR that is susceptible to injury similar to a RB. The Rams use him as a WR/RB/FB. RBs have a shorter shelf life than WR and get paid nearly half as much money.

They definitely need to resign Puka!

They have a window between Feb 17th 2027 and March 3rd 2027 to resign him or franchise him if they don't get a deal done.
 
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Puka not going to IR.

I was gonna say - with the bye coming up it didn't make sense to me.
I mean, I obviously don't know the full extent of his injuries, but he seemed to be ok after the game.
 
Nah, not next year. JSN counts only $10M against the cap this year. He will count $15M next year. So Puka's will be similar for his first few years. They can ramp up the cap hits once Stafford is off the books. It's one advantage of having Simpson on a cheap deal for 4 more years.

With about $75M in cap space next year, before any restructures or releases, they shouldn't have an issue keeping who they want.

And I would expect a year where it's about keeping their own and not going outside for big additions. That's unless they are players who are released, thus they don't affect the comp formula. That way the guys who they do let walk, should return much needed comp picks for 28'.

Yea I addressed that though.....that's one of the benefits of an extension. It doesn't kick in until 2028....the years you're citing are years he was already under contract. So while the reported contract was 4 years $168 million, from now until the end of that contract its actually 6 years $195 million

If you wanted to look at what Puka's cap hit would be next year in JSN's situation, you would have to look at 2028 for JSN (first year of the extension kicking in) - and that number is $32.9 million.

The franchise tag right now is $28 million for receiver, probably low 30s next year. So it would be the same or we would save, on THAT cap number ($32.9 million).

But.....JSN didn't have much leverage. He had both his 4th year left, and then his 5th year option. So in extension talks, Seattle had that leverage to fall back on. "We can extend you now for this much or you can wait"....zero stress for Seattle in that discussion.

We......will not have ANY leverage whatsoever, outside of his off field/injury issues. But the Cardinals, Titans, Dolphins, whoever aren't going to give a fuck about that. They are going to have more money to spend than they know what to do with and will salivate at a 26 year old ELITE receiver hitting free agency.

It is a really simple equation.....Puka's representation will have a number in mind or they will test free agency, and then we will have no choice but to tag him.
 
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It’s 30 million on next year’s cap if you franchise him.
Not talking about the cap hit. I was just surprised at your new-found concern for the cap. I remember hearing "there's always ways to manipulate the cap" when you were suggesting using the draft picks for experienced vets in that failed plan the Rams had. ;)