Projecting Rams’ offensive line

[dang]

BRUSS is gonna wow people in camp and anchor the RG spot for a DECADE. Book it. Redshirt year is over. Time for big man to step up!

That would be awesome giving us the following starting 5:
LT - AJax
LG - FA Nate Davis/Dalton Risner
OC - 2nd round Draft Pick
RG - Bruss
RT - Havenstein

 

[Merlin]

That would be awesome giving us the following starting 5:
LT - AJax
LG - FA Nate Davis/Dalton Risner
OC - 2nd round Draft Pick
RG - Bruss
RT - Havenstein

Look at that fucking depth chart Les! Now all we need is another wideout.
~ McVay

 

[WestCoastRam]

Man Bruss getting injured was such a cherry on top of a terrible year. Had he stayed healthy he would have gotten an impressive amount of snaps (even if he was a backup) in practice and games that would put him light years ahead of where he was. The kid definitely needs some seasoning as we saw in the preseason. I think anything we get from him next year is a bonus as he'll still be doing a lot of catch up in technique.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Daniel Jeremiah names 3 offensive line targets for Rams in 2023 draft

NFL draft expert Daniel Jeremiah named 3 offensive linemen who could be targets for the Rams this year

www.yahoo.com

 

[So Ram]

Daniel Jeremiah names 3 offensive line targets for Rams in 2023 draft

NFL draft expert Daniel Jeremiah named 3 offensive linemen who could be targets for the Rams this year

www.yahoo.com

Lost Respect for him. Funny I use to like Mike Malock as a scout.What a HORRIBLE GM!!
Reflecting back only makes me LOVE LES SNEAD

 

[So Ram]

Man Bruss getting injured was such a cherry on top of a terrible year. Had he stayed healthy he would have gotten an impressive amount of snaps (even if he was a backup) in practice and games that would put him light years ahead of where he was. The kid definitely needs some seasoning as we saw in the preseason. I think anything we get from him next year is a bonus as he'll still be doing a lot of catch up in technique.

Yeah - ok ? Believe what you want.There was a BIGGER PICTURE there about how bad a miss not drafting Creed Humpries was. I wanted Lance Dickerson,but when a player with VALUE & NEED are there it hurts when a team(RAMS)pass on that player.
The way I draftnik is circle a player & positions of need(rams) so I will add IMO Coby Bryant was The player in 2023.Everyone wants to play the Creed Humpries card.Like Inwill always do is keep that player for years if my choice.
I’m not a Durant Fan & likes the Kendrick pick.
—Tyler Allegier (byu)would have been a better pick because The Rams needed a bigger RB 220 plus.Kyren Williams is only 200lbs.Rams still need that bigger RB.
Rams still need an Edge Rusher/DE.Value & Need is a hard call!!

 

[So Ram]

BTW - I lost a Rod bet on Anchrum. Didn’t think The Rams needed to draft a OLINEMAN.
—I’ve always been a big Fan of Grading the O’Line.My biggest fear was A few things.
—training camp that one moment of Garrett going against Noteboom IMO was(always be) classic. Had that match up in PADS. Mcvay cut it by walking up to them to call the play off.I was right there getting into it wanting to see which player wanted it the most.Garrett was ready to get after it live.
Meaningful is Noteboom went against Von Miller & knowing that he was going to be GAME 1 was a MIND’F’mk.He also was not game or really practiced tested.
—Mcvay F’mD both Allen & Noteboom in 2019. Having them BOTH back as KEY STARTERS($$FA) looking back was going to be a problem.
—Example both not having a preseason REP & getting injured.This is a practice Sean Mcvay needs to CHANGE.At least ONE SERIES first team.(please)

 

[BonifayRam]

Look at that fucking depth chart Les! Now all we need is another wideout.
~ McVay

RT
Rob Havenstein 31/9
AJ Arcuri 26/2
Max Pircher 24/R

RG
Tremayne Anchrum 25/4
Logan Bruss 23/1

OC
Brian Allen 28/6

LG
Zac Thomas 24/2

LT
Alaric Jackson 25/3
Joe Noteboom (PUP)28/6

Below are recent 2022 Ram OL'ers NO longer under contract. If the Ram Org. goes in this direction it will assist Snead in getting the extra Compensatory Draft Selection Awards if signed:

OG-Chandler Brewer UFA 25/3
OG-David Edwards UFA 26/5
LT-TY Nsekhe UFA 37/12
OC-Matt Skura UFA 30/7
RG-Oday Aboushi UFA 32/8
OC-Coleman Shelton 28/5
OC- Jeremiah Kolone UFA 28/2
OC-Cole Toner UFA 28/6

I would strongly suggest that Snead sign LT Nsekhe, OG Brewer & OC Skura.

 

[PARAM]

Yeah - ok ? Believe what you want.There was a BIGGER PICTURE there about how bad a miss not drafting Creed Humpries was. I wanted Lance Dickerson,but when a player with VALUE & NEED are there it hurts when a team(RAMS)pass on that player.

Fan view of need: Center
Team view of need: With Brian Allen and Coleman Shelton under contract, 'not center'

Btw, did you want Landon Dickerson as a G or C?

Regardless, despite passing over THE OBVIOUS BEST CHOICE in the 2021 draft, they won the SB with the guys they had on roster for C.

The way I draftnik is circle a player & positions of need(rams) so I will add IMO Coby Bryant was The player in 2023.Everyone wants to play the Creed Humpries card.Like Inwill always do is keep that player for years if my choice.

I liked Coby Bryant and Tariq Woolen for CB and Jaquon Brisker for S. I also liked Creed Humphrey but I also had the sense to realize, we can't draft all the good prospects. This year I like Joey Porter, Jr.

I’m not a Durant Fan & likes the Kendrick pick.
—Tyler Allegier (byu)would have been a better pick because The Rams needed a bigger RB 220 plus.Kyren Williams is only 200lbs.Rams still need that bigger RB.
Rams still need an Edge Rusher/DE.Value & Need is a hard call!!

I like Kendrick AND Durant and believe they'll both be huge contributors in 2023.

At RB I liked Brian Robinson but I was satisfied with Kyren Williams. I expect him to play a bigger role in 2023 BUT I also want them to draft a RB this draft.

On my OL projection:

Starter (backup)

LT: Noteboom (Jackson, Arcuri)
LG: Jackson (Bruss, Anchrum)
C: Shelton, draft pick, UFA, Allen
RG: Anchrum or Bruss (Anchrum, Bruss)
RT: Havenstein (Arcuri)

 

[oldnotdead]

Geez dudes Shelton is under contract. He's not a FA until next year. They signed him because he can start anywhere on the interior OL.

Thomas has the feet and speed to pull in a power run attack. He's a prototypical RG with excellent length giving him a very good play radius. I can see him starting at RG.

Did you listen to Mayfield after his first game? He gave a ton of credit to Allen with the play calls and protections. Center is the hardest OL position to play. Allen is above average which most fans don't see. Shelton Coleman is as well and both are under contract this year. So IMO Allen starts at Center, with Shelton starting at LG and backup Center.

The Rams look to be in good shape at LT. If Noteboom is healthy I see him as a starter. Jackson is the perfect swing player who can play anywhere on the OL except center. I see him projected to start at RT next year. If McVay had guts he would start him at RT this year. They can't cut Havenstein this year but let him play as an expensive backup until next year then cut his swinging gate ass. You Havenstein supporters should go back and watch the Raider game last year. Havenstein was at his absolute worst and without a doubt the worst OL on an OL of backups. Go ahead and watch that game and say Rob is a starter in the NFL. Nsekhe is older and a backup but he's better than Havenstein. Go ahead watch that game and say Rob is a good starter with a straight face.

They should re-sign Toner and use him in a backup role.

LT Noteboom
LG Shelton
C Allen
RG Thomas
RT Jackson

Gameday actives: OT Nsekhe, Bruss, Brewer Roster backups: Havenstein, Cole Toner

This Is a good OL if coached up properly. I do believe my friend the former OL coach that the unprecedented injuries on the OL was because of poor technique. McVay also thinks so and is why Carberry was fired early.

Bruss can practice at LG because if Allen gets hurt again Shelton slides over to Center then it will be up to Bruss or Brewer.

 

[dang]

Fan view of need: Center
Team view of need: With Brian Allen and Coleman Shelton under contract, 'not center'

Btw, did you want Landon Dickerson as a G or C?

Regardless, despite passing over THE OBVIOUS BEST CHOICE in the 2021 draft, they won the SB with the guys they had on roster for C.



I liked Coby Bryant and Tariq Woolen for CB and Jaquon Brisker for S. I also liked Creed Humphrey but I also had the sense to realize, we can't draft all the good prospects. This year I like Joey Porter, Jr.

I like Kendrick AND Durant and believe they'll both be huge contributors in 2023.

At RB I liked Brian Robinson but I was satisfied with Kyren Williams. I expect him to play a bigger role in 2023 BUT I also want them to draft a RB this draft.

On my OL projection:

Starter (backup)

LT: Noteboom (Jackson, Arcuri)
LG: Jackson (Bruss, Anchrum)
C: Shelton, draft pick, UFA, Allen
RG: Anchrum or Bruss (Anchrum, Bruss)
RT: Havenstein (Arcuri)

I’ll be disappointed but not shocked if they don’t add one vet IOL (from another team) from FA or trade. McSnead had to see what a weak IOL does to the run game/offense as a whole.

 

[Flatlyner]

I agree with oldnotdead, our OL is actually not bad if not completely shattered by injuries. Which is why I'm leaning away from our top pick being a OL. Depending on FA and resigning, we might have a massive hole on the DL and at Edge. Trade JR, another massive hole at CB. Fairly good sized hole at S as well. I'd love to sign a versatile vet IOL in FA and help alleviate concerns on inside before draft.

 

[dang]

I agree with oldnotdead, our OL is actually not bad if not completely shattered by injuries. Which is why I'm leaning away from our top pick being a OL. Depending on FA and resigning, we might have a massive hole on the DL and at Edge. Trade JR, another massive hole at CB. Fairly good sized hole at S as well. I'd love to sign a versatile vet IOL in FA and help alleviate concerns on inside before draft.

How was the OL coming out of the gate last season? Looking at the stats of say the first 5 games they gave up a huge number of sacks and were a big reason for one of the worst run games in the league.

 

[So Ram]

Fan view of need: Center
Team view of need: With Brian Allen and Coleman Shelton under contract, 'not center'

Btw, did you want Landon Dickerson as a G or C?

Regardless, despite passing over THE OBVIOUS BEST CHOICE in the 2021 draft, they won the SB with the guys they had on roster for C.



I liked Coby Bryant and Tariq Woolen for CB and Jaquon Brisker for S. I also liked Creed Humphrey but I also had the sense to realize, we can't draft all the good prospects. This year I like Joey Porter, Jr.

I like Kendrick AND Durant and believe they'll both be huge contributors in 2023.

At RB I liked Brian Robinson but I was satisfied with Kyren Williams. I expect him to play a bigger role in 2023 BUT I also want them to draft a RB this draft.

On my OL projection:

Starter (backup)

LT: Noteboom (Jackson, Arcuri)
LG: Jackson (Bruss, Anchrum)
C: Shelton, draft pick, UFA, Allen
RG: Anchrum or Bruss (Anchrum, Bruss)
RT: Havenstein (Arcuri)

Your talking my language.I have no clue what The Offensive Line look like in 2023.Your projection right now is Perfect.Since all those players are under contract. The only really good thing is The Experience those players got.
— Plus a New O”Line(te,OC)
Coach to help out the Line to be in better situations. Add Akers,Williams(Montgomery?)

Dickerson was just a player who fit The Rams future.PERFECT- swing backup in 2021. C/G
—Point being The Rams were counting on Bruss a 3/4th rd value to start vs. a 1st rd value as a backup & make sure he was healthy(injury concerns).
He was 100% his rookie year & now one of The Best Guards in The NFL. Wondering if he plays Center. Dude just blast DT up out the Box. How he gets so low on 4th & goal line is impressive.

—Right now status quo. We don’t have a say. Floyd FA,A. Robinson FA, -my hope is Montgomery is the next Bear FA.
— Like Robinson over Gaines
— Wonder about Rapp & Scott
How The Rams decide on their own players are not even set.
-Then contract restructures ?
The Combine is fun to see players up close.

 

[So Ram]

How was the OL coming out of the gate last season? Looking at the stats of say the first 5 games they gave up a huge number of sacks and were a big reason for one of the worst run games in the league.

Rams were 3-2 & Akers head was not all there coming into2022. Mcvay said both players were not game ready.If that wasn’t a SCARY clue about the RUN game ?

 

[So Ram]

I agree with oldnotdead, our OL is actually not bad if not completely shattered by injuries. Which is why I'm leaning away from our top pick being a OL. Depending on FA and resigning, we might have a massive hole on the DL and at Edge. Trade JR, another massive hole at CB. Fairly good sized hole at S as well. I'd love to sign a versatile vet IOL in FA and help alleviate concerns on inside before draft.

You’re saying a SWING LT/RT of total Value is off the list? I’d hold that pretty high in a Draft Pick. Noteboom & Havenstien SHOULdN’T be on their list in 2024.Having a replacement would be huge. Like I said about Humpries(Dickerson). The reason it made sense was Allen was a FA.Shelton is to SMALL as a FullTime Guard.
A”Jackson was surprising as a Guard.I actually don’t like him as a LT as well.He IMO was The Rams best Guard. I SAID he looked better at Guard(training camp,preseason).
When I see players at camp it only gives a certain perspective.Seeing preseason games really helps solidify some of those views from a closer outlook.

 

[So Ram]

Geez dudes Shelton is under contract. He's not a FA until next year. They signed him because he can start anywhere on the interior OL.

Thomas has the feet and speed to pull in a power run attack. He's a prototypical RG with excellent length giving him a very good play radius. I can see him starting at RG.

Did you listen to Mayfield after his first game? He gave a ton of credit to Allen with the play calls and protections. Center is the hardest OL position to play. Allen is above average which most fans don't see. Shelton Coleman is as well and both are under contract this year. So IMO Allen starts at Center, with Shelton starting at LG and backup Center.

The Rams look to be in good shape at LT. If Noteboom is healthy I see him as a starter. Jackson is the perfect swing player who can play anywhere on the OL except center. I see him projected to start at RT next year. If McVay had guts he would start him at RT this year. They can't cut Havenstein this year but let him play as an expensive backup until next year then cut his swinging gate ass. You Havenstein supporters should go back and watch the Raider game last year. Havenstein was at his absolute worst and without a doubt the worst OL on an OL of backups. Go ahead and watch that game and say Rob is a starter in the NFL. Nsekhe is older and a backup but he's better than Havenstein. Go ahead watch that game and say Rob is a good starter with a straight face.

They should re-sign Toner and use him in a backup role.

LT Noteboom
LG Shelton
C Allen
RG Thomas
RT Jackson

Gameday actives: OT Nsekhe, Bruss, Brewer Roster backups: Havenstein, Cole Toner

This Is a good OL if coached up properly. I do believe my friend the former OL coach that the unprecedented injuries on the OL was because of poor technique. McVay also thinks so and is why Carberry was fired early.

Bruss can practice at LG because if Allen gets hurt again Shelton slides over to Center then it will be up to Bruss or Brewer.

First off Thomas was if correct a 6th rd pick in 2022 who was cut & has never played a down as a Ram? He was a practice squad guy.
2nd If Shelton is your starting RG/LG your asking for the same results over & over again.INSANE!!
3rd - A” Jackson himself said he was going to be The Rams starting LG? Can be a starting LT.
He seemed to talk well about Noteboom.
LT- Noteboom
LG-Jackson
C-Allen/Shelton
RG- ?
RT — ??? Yes agree Rob Havienstien became a weakness.
IMO Kromer had it right.He is a solid run blocker who maybe better at Guard.
—Drafting a swing LT/RT of the future might be the way to go?

Thomas vs Anchrum ?what The Rams do going into OTA’s will explain a lot what The Rams needs really are then.

 

[PARAM]

I’ll be disappointed but not shocked if they don’t add one vet IOL (from another team) from FA or trade. McSnead had to see what a weak IOL does to the run game/offense as a whole.

I'd expect them to add a C.

On the G's, McSnead saw Anchrum for 2 entire plays, though I'm sure he saw plenty of him in practice and camp. And the fact he was #1 backup interior lineman might speak to what they thought of him. So I don't think 2 plays dissolved any of that confidence. He saw Jackson at LG for two games and IMO, he acquitted himself quite well. The fact he was #2 backup interior lineman suggest to me the same as Anchrum.

On drafting or signing a C, I believe that is a need. Because of Allen's knees and the fact Shelton can exercise his option to become a free agent. If Shelton doesn't they may cut Allen loose and the need amplifies.

But outside of center, the have plenty of solid options for IOL in Anchrym and Jackson......plus Bruss.

They have seen much more than we have with respect to IOL, Anchrum, Jackson and Bruss.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Regardless, despite passing over THE OBVIOUS BEST CHOICE in the 2021 draft, they won the SB with the guys they had on roster for C.

This is always a head-scratching take to me, because it’s using the fact there’s no further pinnacle that a SB win to reach, but we still possibly could’ve been even stronger with Creed (maybe showing in greater score differentials, or whatever, e.g.) especially protecting into years down the road.

 

[PARAM]

This is always a head-scratching take to me, because it’s using the fact there’s no further pinnacle that a SB win to reach, but we still possibly could’ve been even stronger with Creed (maybe showing in greater score differentials, or whatever, e.g.) especially protecting into years down the road.

To me the head scratching take is having Creed in 2022 would have made a world of difference. Having him on the Rams offense in 2022 with multiple guards on either side of him, multiple LTs, multiple QBs and WRs, Creed's impact would have made a world of difference???

Going forward into 2023 and beyond? Sure. But we don't even know who the C is going to be and they haven't yet had a disasterous campaign, to be able to say that "missed pick" had an affect in 2023.

Furthermore, he's a terrific C (Creed) but nobody knew that he'd be who he is.....they can say they did but I'm not ready to accept it for more than a guess. It would be more acceptable to believe that if they offered a record of never being wrong about another draft pick who was a "sure thing".

Did those same fans believe Clowney was going to be an all world HOFer? Or Aaron Curry? Or Carson Wentz? It would be helpful to see their takes on those and other draft picks.

I've heard fans say, "it's not hindsight. Anybody with more than pedestrian knowledge of football could see he was going to be a stud." Well, then show me you've never said that about a dud and I will bow to you.