Pro Football Focus ranks Rams’ roster second-best in entire NFL

[SuperMan28]

Heh. He'll be 26 in November, and has yet to play a game in the NFL. His college scouting reports emphasized that he had a case of the dropsies. He was a UDFA. He does have a criminal record, so he fits in with the Chiefs, I'll give you that. Missing the whole year is not a good sign, either. Maybe he does something, it's insane to emphasize that he is a stud muffin given his less than stellar college career, the lack of ANY real pro experience, and the fact that he was a UDFA, meaning no team felt he was worth a pick. If you are not just hoping, but counting on him performing, that says it all. Having a couple good preseason games - mostly against other team's roster hopefuls - is not cause to believe him a future star.

I didn't say he was a star. I said he was a stud muffin. Mahomes has this effect where good players become stud muffins. Look at Albert Wilson's numbers week 17 of the 2017 season. So there you go. I also told my buddies at work Mahomes would get MVP at the beginning of the season. They told me I was a dreamer. Now they're dreaming they had Mahomes for their QB.

A bait post is a posting that is so outrageous it’s only purpose is to bait readers into reacting. The bait poster knows better but prefers the controversy of the bait post. So you are either an extreme Chiefs homer or you are a bait poster. Your response does not include ANY information to support your claim that the Chiefs have the deepest WR Corp in the NFL so it has little to no merit.

Fake news. I'm a counter puncher. All I did was learn ya with information. You just decided you would post with your eyes shut. Not only did I give ya info, I gave ya videos case you dont read too good. I'm looking out for you, brotha. And I'm looking out for your eyes. You can look up his measurables yourself if you want.

 

[Akrasian]

I didn't say he was a star. I said he was a stud muffin.

In the non-deluded world, saying a player is a stud muffin indicates that he is a star - not that he has A good game in a season of mediocrity. Redefining things to cover your ass does not help your case.

 

[SuperMan28]

In the non-deluded world, saying a player is a stud muffin indicates that he is a star - not that he has A good game in a season of mediocrity. Redefining things to cover your ass does not help your case.

Hey, cover this. Darwin Thompson! Gonna be a total stud muffin as the season goes on. Wont get as much time early.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...-is-the-underdog-to-bet-on-entering-the-draft

 

[SuperMan28]

In the non-deluded world, saying a player is a stud muffin indicates that he is a star - not that he has A good game in a season of mediocrity. Redefining things to cover your ass does not help your case.

Oh! Oh! I got you now. This was the video I was actually looking for. Turns out it was under NFL.com not Youtube. Total. Stud. Muffin.

View: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000957254/Every-Byron-Pringle-touch-Preseason-Week-4

 

[Akrasian]

Yes, pick up fluff pieces that say even though he came from a smaller school against weaker competition and was drafted late or not at all, he's going on to a big career. Maybe. Pretty much every UDFA have articles written about him like that - there's a lot of content. The occasional late pick or UDFA actually delivers. Those who have followed the NFL for any length of time know that the vast majority of them don't, and that it is foolishly optimistic to get overly excited about any of them until they do it - repeatedly - in actual NFL games.

 

[SuperMan28]

Yes, pick up fluff pieces that say even though he came from a smaller school against weaker competition and was drafted late or not at all, he's going on to a big career. Maybe. Pretty much every UDFA have articles written about him like that - there's a lot of content. The occasional late pick or UDFA actually delivers. Those who have followed the NFL for any length of time know that the vast majority of them don't, and that it is foolishly optimistic to get overly excited about any of them until they do it - repeatedly - in actual NFL games.

I'm not the only one taking notice, ya know. You will know, though. At least you will have a heads up on him before the so called "experts" of the national media.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ar...e-is-kansas-citys-surprise-offseason-standout

 

[Akrasian]

I'm not the only one taking notice, ya know. You will know, though. At least you will have a heads up on him before the so called "experts" of the national media.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ar...e-is-kansas-citys-surprise-offseason-standout

Alex Bachman
https://www.rotoworld.com/college-football/nfl-draft/player/48742/alex-bachman
Wake Forest WR Alex Bachman ran an unofficial 4.40 40-yard dash at his Pro Day.
Bachman (6'0/190) was reportedly the best athlete at the Pro Day, also recording a 10-foot, 7-inch broad jump. He impressed in front of the 31 NFL teams in attendance and even outperformed likely draft-pick Greg Dortch.

Wake Forest senior WR Alex Bachman caught seven passes for 171 yards in Saturday's 37-34 win over Memphis in the Birmingham Bowl.

Brandon Hitner
https://www.nj.com/eagles/2019/03/n...ner-lights-up-villanovas-pro-day-workout.html

Brandon Hitner was hard to miss.

The 6-foot-6, 305-pound offensive lineman towered over his peers during Villanova’s pro day workout at NovaCare Complex on Monday. His size was notable but his performance was eye-opening.

While he only managed 23 reps during bench press drills, Hitner’s athleticism shined in front of scouts from approximately 20 NFL teams.

The massive lineman posted a 32.5-inch vertical jump and a 115.5-inch broad jump. Both marks would have placed Hitner within the top five offensive line performers at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Hitner also ran a 5.16-second 40-yard dash.

I could go on, because EVERY NRI has articles praising them somewhere. These two are both longshots to make the team in 2019, though could be developed on the practice squad.

EVERY offseason there are a slew of NRIs who are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and some do develop into contributors. Very few of them are significant contributors their rookie season, and acting like they are almost certain to become stars is laughable, and makes it look like you've just started following the NFL. If the Chiefs are lucky, some of those guys will be special teams contributors, maybe depth guys their rookie season and eventually become important starters. But citing deep offseason fluff articles as evidence - well, that's not particularly good evidence.

 

[oldnotdead]

Take Tyreek Hill off their roster and their WR's look pretty average. It's the threat of Hill that draws the coverage. Without that I don't see any other WR on their roster that would scare any secondary. Watkins will be the #1WR and the Rams know him well. The Rams secondary practices against Woods, Cooks and Kupp and they are better.

In fact the best receiver on their roster other than Hill is Kelce who is a TE. Again it's the Hill threat that allowed Kelce to get open so often. KC is a good team but they aren't the deepest or the best team in the NFL and they certainly don't have the best WR's in the NFL. :rolllaugh:

 

[oldnotdead]

Oh and for those that don't know what a bait post is.....it's a post made by trolls to illicit a response. So I responded this time but not again.

 

[SuperMan28]

Alex Bachman
https://www.rotoworld.com/college-football/nfl-draft/player/48742/alex-bachman
Wake Forest WR Alex Bachman ran an unofficial 4.40 40-yard dash at his Pro Day.
Bachman (6'0/190) was reportedly the best athlete at the Pro Day, also recording a 10-foot, 7-inch broad jump. He impressed in front of the 31 NFL teams in attendance and even outperformed likely draft-pick Greg Dortch.

Wake Forest senior WR Alex Bachman caught seven passes for 171 yards in Saturday's 37-34 win over Memphis in the Birmingham Bowl.

Brandon Hitner
https://www.nj.com/eagles/2019/03/n...ner-lights-up-villanovas-pro-day-workout.html

Brandon Hitner was hard to miss.

The 6-foot-6, 305-pound offensive lineman towered over his peers during Villanova’s pro day workout at NovaCare Complex on Monday. His size was notable but his performance was eye-opening.

While he only managed 23 reps during bench press drills, Hitner’s athleticism shined in front of scouts from approximately 20 NFL teams.

The massive lineman posted a 32.5-inch vertical jump and a 115.5-inch broad jump. Both marks would have placed Hitner within the top five offensive line performers at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Hitner also ran a 5.16-second 40-yard dash.

I could go on, because EVERY NRI has articles praising them somewhere. These two are both longshots to make the team in 2019, though could be developed on the practice squad.

EVERY offseason there are a slew of NRIs who are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and some do develop into contributors. Very few of them are significant contributors their rookie season, and acting like they are almost certain to become stars is laughable, and makes it look like you've just started following the NFL. If the Chiefs are lucky, some of those guys will be special teams contributors, maybe depth guys their rookie season and eventually become important starters. But citing deep offseason fluff articles as evidence - well, that's not particularly good evidence.

That's the thing, though. Pringle isn't a rookie. He's had a whole season to learn the offense and ample time to heal and get in much better shape than he was in last year. With a couple guys like Conley(JAX) and Hill (likely will serve a suspension) out of the line up , he's gonna start getting some snaps. He will be a backup WO for either Robinson or Watkins. Robinson is not a burner, either. And you know Watkins needs to basically be on a snap count until January. Dude has long injury history. So yeah, I'm excited. He finished preseason hot and now he's continuing to develope by all accounts. He's a guy I've had my on on even before he was a Chief. He is out of K-State so the KC Star picked up on him as a late round gem. Looks like they know their stuff.

 

[SuperMan28]

Take Tyreek Hill off their roster and their WR's look pretty average. It's the threat of Hill that draws the coverage. Without that I don't see any other WR on their roster that would scare any secondary. Watkins will be the #1WR and the Rams know him well. The Rams secondary practices against Woods, Cooks and Kupp and they are better.

In fact the best receiver on their roster other than Hill is Kelce who is a TE. Again it's the Hill threat that allowed Kelce to get open so often. KC is a good team but they aren't the deepest or the best team in the NFL and they certainly don't have the best WR's in the NFL. :rolllaugh:

Uhhhhh.. Chiefs had the #1 offense last year. I'm laughing at you too. And I would say the Chiefs WR's are the most explosive group in the NFL. Add in Andy Reid and Wild Bill and you have the best offensive unit in the league for the second year in a row.

You do realize our early season schedule is soft, right. Hill being gone will be a good thing. That way we can test our depth (Pringle!). And it's still blazing fast with Watkins, Hardman, and Pringle. Add Mahomes ability to improvise along with a good running game and we good.

Rams built their offense to work off the RB. With Gurley having knee issues, I think the Rams take a step back. Seems NE put a blue print out on McVay and I'll be curious to see how he answers. That Super Bowl was a rough one. Rams know all too well how an ugly loss in a Super Bowl can lead to a slippery downward trend.

 

[Reddog99]

The Rams will be fine unless the OL fails. Im from MO and a Chiefs fan as well. My gut keeps telling me that both of these teams will take a step back offensively (not a big one) and the defense will catch up and both teams will be more rounded and overall tougher teams. They will both be challenged a bit more in their divisions this year with the 49ers, Seahawks, Raiders and chargers. I do however think between the Chiefs and Rams that the Rams are slightly better and have better depth. I also see the Rams staying relevant for a longer period of time. Sorry superman28 not a knock on the Chief's as I hope that it is these two in the big game this year. Just my opinion.

 

[PARAM]

Hope I'm wrong, but I think Suh did more than a lot of people realize, just not in a stat-amassing high-visibility way. (I know this was an outlier for him, but I just watched our Cowboys playoff again last night. He really made some big plays.)

I agree.

But where is Joe Noteboom on that list? And Cooks/Gurley were just "average"? I'd dispute that strongly.

 

[Selassie I]

"Stud Muffin"

 

[Kevin]

"Stud Muffin"

Google defines "stud muffin" as a man perceived as sexually attractive, typically one with well-developed muscles.

I think SuperMan28 means they are also good football players.

 

[Merlin]

Losing Tyreek Hill is an enormous change for the Chiefs' offense that will affect the bottom line. They also lost Houston, Ford, and Berry. To not expect a dip is unrealistic. Guy who will suffer is Mahomes, who is in for a lesser statistical season because of it.

Defensively it's going to take a little time for Spags to get his thing going. He requires a dominant front in order to put up good stats. Clark's addition is not a dominant front.

Chiefs are in for a bit of a transition year defensively, and will dip offensively. That means the AFC West throne is up for grabs if the Chargers can get their BS together. I also think the Raiders will be much improved, not that they'll challenge for the division lead or anything.

I see the Chiefs winning 11, right there in that range. They won't be a home field level team, they'll make the playoffs and get knocked out relatively quickly for the reasons above.

 

[SuperMan28]

Losing Tyreek Hill is an enormous change for the Chiefs' offense that will affect the bottom line. They also lost Houston, Ford, and Berry. To not expect a dip is unrealistic. Guy who will suffer is Mahomes, who is in for a lesser statistical season because of it.

Defensively it's going to take a little time for Spags to get his thing going. He requires a dominant front in order to put up good stats. Clark's addition is not a dominant front.

Chiefs are in for a bit of a transition year defensively, and will dip offensively. That means the AFC West throne is up for grabs if the Chargers can get their BS together. I also think the Raiders will be much improved, not that they'll challenge for the division lead or anything.

I see the Chiefs winning 11, right there in that range. They won't be a home field level team, they'll make the playoffs and get knocked out relatively quickly for the reasons above.

Losing Tyreek would be enormous if were were playing contenders to start the year. Easy wins.

Houston and Okafor are about the same these days. Seriously.

Ford nearly got cut before the season but his option became guaranteed with his injury. We lucked out and got a 2nd for him. Dude cost us a ring!!!

Mahomes will put up bigger numbers. Believe it or not he missed some easy ones last year. And you see games like at LAR where his mechanics went to crap. He's still learning the game,too. Bill B. gave him problems in both first halfs that we played them.

Clark by himself is a not a dominant front (that was the case in SEA, by coincidence. Still had 14 sacks BY HIMSELF), but you put Chris Jones next to him, 15.5 sacks, and you got some nastiness brewing. (Plus Honey Badger lurking in the wings? Whoa!!) Rams only have AD99 now. So our front is still better than yours.

They always pick the chargers. Always.

 

[Merlin]

Losing Tyreek would be enormous if were were playing contenders to start the year. Easy wins.

You're just not seeing it man. Both our teams have enough scoring to where they're going to get to the playoffs, both of them are going to crap all over lesser opponents during the regular season but it's not about that. For actual contenders it's about being able to move deeper into the playoffs. THAT is where both our teams are at.

Your team has a defense that is a problem. Did they do enough? I don't know, but I do know you have a new DC that I am very familiar with whose only good seasons have been with crazy good DL up front. Schematically, however, he's not anything special IMO.

Offensively they lost key players to include Hill whose impact is immense to your scheme. Acting like Mahomes is going to put up bigger numbers tells me you're a homer type fan who isn't ever going to look objectively at your team or roster. So there's no real reason to discuss this with you, good luck to you this season.

 

[Reddog99]

Ford didnt cost KC a ring dude c'mon. He cost them a chance at the ring and a superbowl appearance but nothing's guaranteed man. That makes you sound just like the Saints fans. You don't wanna sound just like the Saints fans do you?

 

[Memento]

Losing Tyreek would be enormous if were were playing contenders to start the year. Easy wins.

Houston and Okafor are about the same these days. Seriously.

Ford nearly got cut before the season but his option became guaranteed with his injury. We lucked out and got a 2nd for him. Dude cost us a ring!!!

Mahomes will put up bigger numbers. Believe it or not he missed some easy ones last year. And you see games like at LAR where his mechanics went to crap. He's still learning the game,too. Bill B. gave him problems in both first halfs that we played them.

Clark by himself is a not a dominant front (that was the case in SEA, by coincidence. Still had 14 sacks BY HIMSELF), but you put Chris Jones next to him, 15.5 sacks, and you got some nastiness brewing. (Plus Honey Badger lurking in the wings? Whoa!!) Rams only have AD99 now. So our front is still better than yours.

They always pick the chargers. Always.

I actually like Kpassagnon for you guys to take a defensive line spot. He came out raw out of Villanova, but I wanted us to take him in the second or third round. Now, granted, I'm a fan of the players we drafted, but Kpassagnon was one of my favorite prospects.