Potential WR Trade Targets

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Why does it bug you to state what these WRs are?
Doesn't bug me at all. They're jags, like you say. Why does it bug you that I put up those numbers showing the offense has been fine?
You're making the case the offense is good because of the other WRs?
No. lol
Nope. Not making the case the offense is good because of those other WRs. Making the case the offense is good even with those other WRs.
 
I get the hope and desire to see this, but it's unlikely.

They don't have the same resources this offseason as last year. They have a lot of money but their needs with pending free agents is 5x higher....literally.

4 out of the 5 starting OL are free agents in addition to Puka, Turner, BY, Parkinson, and Allen. They will spend considerable resources addressing those holes.

And with the trade for Garrett, their draft resources are much lower.

From a practical standpoint, they'll have to do a WR room makeover in a future year.
Well I know its unlikely now but just saying we are overdue for it. I'd prefer a cheap vet route for now to hold us over but we'll see. I would hope they indeed address adding more versatile athletic type of WRs that can be possibly molded legit NFL WRs as we just don't have that type of player on the roster right now.
 
The Rams are currently down to 4th in yardage... 10th in scoring... and has scored 16, 21 and 24 points over the last three weeks.. with none of those three games against good defenses.

The red engine light is flashing right now.
16, 21 and 24 the last 3 weeks? Better recheck those numbers. I think that flashing red engine light might be affecting your vision. :laugh4:
 
Doesn't bug me at all. They're jags, like you say. Why does it bug you that I put up those numbers showing the offense has been fine?

Nope. Not making the case the offense is good because of those other WRs. Making the case the offense is good even with those WRs.
Please stop trying to turn this around, it bothered you which is why you responded the way you did. I said we have JAGs which most would agree with and you posted this long ass statistical post about how our offense performed with JAGs the whole time like that even addressed what I was talking about this year. You mean to tell me that you cannot see that our WRs (not our alphas) struggle and think we have ones in the wings that have some elite to great athletic traits that the Rams may be able to develop?
 
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16, 21 and 24 the last 3 weeks? Better recheck those numbers. I think that flashing red engine light might be affecting your vision. :laugh4:
Is there an argument there that the offense is *good* right now?
 
Nate's free article:
That could rule out names such as the Jacksonville Jaguars’ Brian Thomas Jr. or the Washington Commodes’ Stefon Diggs, whose salaries and trade costs are likely too high. But the Rams should stay open on Josh Downs, who has asked out of Indianapolis, is in a contract year on a third-round rookie salary and can offer separation versus man coverage as well as a strong punt return option.
For the likely cost of a Day 3 pick, they could look to the Tennessee Titans’ Calvin Ridley, who still runs elite routes; the Colts’ Keenan Allen, who would embrace a final title chase in what is almost certainly his final season; or the Minnesota Vikings’ Jauan Jennings, who provides a great scheme fit after his time with the San Francisco 49ers.

The Rams must trade for a wide receiver. Their Super Bowl hopes depend on it​


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Over the last two years..
You're making the case the offense is good because of the other WRs?
No. lol

And.. on top of that.. the Rams don't even have their #3 WR from last year on the roster... Smith did more than any of the other guys.

Last year also featured the Rams unleashing a novel approach.. going 13 at an extreme rate, in relation to the league, and they were uniquely positioned to exploit that change.

The league catches up to that kind of schematic change quickly. It doesn't mean the league has solved it.. but it means the league is more ready for it.

The Rams are currently down to 4th in yardage... 10th in scoring... and has scored 16, 21 and 24 points over the last three weeks.. with none of those three games against good defenses.

The red engine light is flashing right now... and having better WRs outside of Puka and Adams would be a big help.

The Rams have their #3 yards and receptions leader from 2024 on the roster.
They're still uniquely positioned to exploit 13.
They still lead the league in efficiency out of 13.
There is no evidence the league is more ready for it.
While they are down to 4th in yards, they are up in scoring at 10th.
Last week they were 11th. Two weeks ago they were 20th in scoring.

The data doesn't show a red engine light flashing.
 
Please stop trying to turn this around, it bothered you which is why you responded the way you did. I said we have JAGs which most would agree with and you posted this long ass statistical post about how our offense performed with JAGs the whole time like that even addressed what I was talking about this year. You mean to tell me that you cannot see that our WRs (not our alphas) struggle and think we have ones in the wings that have some elite to great athletic traits that the Rams may be able to Or did you have develop?
Please try fucking reading for comprehension! I said "they are jags". I posted the numbers for McVay's offense with various jags over the years. Last year looked pretty good eh? Or did you have trouble reading that too?

Seriously, not pissed at all. But I can't say the same for you. Claiming I'm pissed. Claiming I'm trying to turn something around. Are you pissed or attempting to piss somebody off? Relax dude.
 
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Is there an argument there that the offense is *good* right now?
There's a suggestion there to use accurate numbers if you're going to make an argument. You seem to jump a little early before checking your numbers. I think they call that "premature calculation". :laugh4: This is the second time (that I know of) where your numbers were incorrect in two different arguments.

But I'll play. What do you call 35 and 24 points in back to back wins? They wasted 5 possessions over the first 28 minutes, then scored 24 points in the next 32 minutes. I'd say that's pretty good.
 
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The Rams have their #3 yards and receptions leader from 2024 on the roster.
They're still uniquely positioned to exploit 13.
They still lead the league in efficiency out of 13.
There is no evidence the league is more ready for it.
While they are down to 4th in yards, they are up in scoring at 10th.
Last week they were 11th. Two weeks ago they were 20th in scoring.

The data doesn't show a red engine light flashing.
They're averaging 24.2 PPG.
They have the #6 passing offense (258.9 yds/g).
They have the #10 rushing offense (125.5 yds/g) and they're #5 in yds/att (4.7)

Something is flashing red. Might be somebody's credibility flying off.

What we have here is an agenda being adhered to. In various threads. Over and over. They had a bad plan. They have terrible WR depth. They have the check engine light on. And through it all, there's been some misrepresentation of facts and/or numbers, however innocent it may be. Of course if it continues, who wouldn't think it's deliberate??
 
There's a suggestion there to use accurate numbers if you're going to make an argument. You seem to jump a little early before checking your numbers. I think they call that "premature calculation". :laugh4: This is the second time (that I know of) where your numbers were incorrect in two different arguments.

But I'll play. What do you call 35 and 24 points in back to back wins? They wasted 5 possessions over the first 28 minutes, then scored 24 points in the next 32 minutes. I'd say that's pretty good.
The numbers I’m focusing on, overall, are an issue, to me. Not you? Fine.
But I’m also looking at the number of targets and hits Puca is taking while Adams is out.
Again, you don’t seem to think that’s an issue, I do.
And I’m happy to point out that an objective third-party who covers football for a living sees the same thing.
So, while you might disagree with the argument… Don’t pretend there’s not merit to it.
 
They're averaging 24.2 PPG.
They have the #6 passing offense (258.9 yds/g).
They have the #10 rushing offense (125.5 yds/g) and they're #5 in yds/att (4.7)

Something is flashing red. Might be somebody's credibility flying off.
Not at all. Sometimes, you actually watch the game and don’t only look at the numbers.
 
But I’m also looking at the number of targets and hits Puca is taking while Adams is out.
Again, you don’t seem to think that’s an issue, I do.
If this is an issue to you, I suggest being accurate.

Puka has averaged 11 targets per game in the two weeks that Adams has missed.
Puka averaged 13 targets per game in the games he played that Adams was healthy.

You're speculating, imagining that there will be a problem that hasn't emerged yet.
 
The numbers I’m focusing on, overall, are an issue, to me. Not you? Fine.
But I’m also looking at the number of targets and hits Puca is taking while Adams is out.
Again, you don’t seem to think that’s an issue, I do.
And I’m happy to point out that an objective third-party who covers football for a living sees the same thing.
So, while you might disagree with the argument… Don’t pretend there’s not merit to it.
Last year Puka averaged 12.3 targets per game when Adams was out.
This year Puka is averaging 11 targets per game since Adams went out.
Sure there's merit to it. It's NFL football. People get injured.
But it doesn't matter if he's targeted or not, he's in there in the run game and he's in there when somebody else gets the ball.
You want to worry about it, that's on you.

BTW, who is that "objective third-party" to which you refer? Blaine Grisak?
 
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If this is an issue to you, I suggest being accurate.

Puka has averaged 11 targets per game in the two weeks that Adams has missed.
Puka averaged 13 targets per game in the games he played that Adams was healthy.

You're speculating, imagining that there will be a problem that hasn't emerged yet.
Damn man!!! What do expect to come from using logic and accurate numbers? Like I said, there's an agenda here. Don't you know we NEED a better #3 WR, so there's somebody else to fake it to before throwing to Puka!!!! I don't know about you but I'm almost done with that tag team imitation of Chris Farley and Jeff Daniels.
 
Damn man!!! What do expect to come from using logic and accurate numbers? Like I said, there's an agenda here. Don't you know we NEED a better #3 WR, so there's somebody else to fake it to before throwing to Puka!!!!
I'm all for debate but let's try to be accurate for God's sake.
We gotta do better than just pulling shit out of our ass.

If the Rams trade for another WR, I support that. Even if all it provides is good depth.
But if they don't trade for one, the world won't end.
 
If this is an issue to you, I suggest being accurate.

Puka has averaged 11 targets per game in the two weeks that Adams has missed.
Puka averaged 13 targets per game in the games he played that Adams was healthy.

You're speculating, imagining that there will be a problem that hasn't emerged yet.
Puka’s depth of target has changed significantly.
He is closer to the line and taking more big hits.
I’m watching the games.
I’m not imagining problems, I’m watching them.
 
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Last year Puka averaged 12.3 targets per game when Adams was out.
This year Puka is averaging 11 targets per game since Adams went out.
Sure there's merit to it. It's NFL football. People get injured.
But it doesn't matter if he's targeted or not, he's in there in the run game and he's in there when somebody else gets the ball.
You want to worry about it, that's on you.

BTW, who is that "objective third-party" to which you refer? Blaine Grisak?
Nate Atkins.
Who happened to cover Matthew Stafford in Detroit as well.
Pooka is taking targets closer to the line and taking more hits.
One podcast I listen to said his speed numbers are down as well. I do not have printed data on that.
 
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Honestly, might be worth considering. He's a headcase, but he hates Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch.
Headcase may be an understatement. This could not have anything to do with the other, but, his cousin lived across the street from me and moved out a short while ago. He started acting extremely erratically and talking nuts -- literally similar to Brandon that I've seen on socials. Prior to these episodes, similar to Brandon, he was a fairly normal guy. Might be something inherited.

Also, I believe the whiners still have him under contract, thus they would need to trade him to a division rival. Even if he's still crazy, they aren't doing that.
 
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