I think they’ve been developing the IOL guys.
There’s nothing to develop in the WR room.
Make a case that cutting any of them would hurt the team.
Potential WR Trade Targets
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There’s nothing to develop in the WR room.
Make a case that cutting any of them would hurt the team.
I already made the case. The Rams are a draft and develop team, they rarely make drastic changes, and haven't done it yet on offense.
They're developing Mumpfield and Daniels just like they're developing IOL guys. There is no incentive to cut their inexpensive guys so they will all be back. If you feel they will deviate from their normal pattern, you make the case. Burden of proof is on you.
Oh…
Who knows what they’ll do?
If they did what they did before, we’d have been in eff them picks mode.
I’m saying there’s no reason to keep anyone outside of Puka. No one with traits worth developing.. unlike the IOL GUYS.
Positionally.. Limmer and McMahon are amazing athletes. Trost is a real prospect.
No one in the WR room is worth keeping.
You're higher on the IOL guys and lower on the WRs than I am. Besides Trost, who I haven't ruled out for RT, I don't see any of the names mentioned at IOL or WR as being anything more than role players.
McMahon is the primary backup.. has a great profile and will be entering season 4 next year.
Roughly same timeline as Shelton’s career.
Limmer is a guy they continue to invest in and who has incredible physical assets.
Trost has short arms.. I think he’s a guard.
None of the WRs have positional athletic traits even close to Limmer and McMahon.
El Chapo Jr
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All the WRs are JAGs minus Puka and Adams. I'll leave Daniels out of it since he's a rookie. Mumpfield's ceiling may be WR4. Whittington can block and nothing else. Tutu is fast but rarely used. Yeah that room needed upgrading awhile back imo. Probably gonna be like the secondary (not as aggressive) where we attack that position in the off season unfortunately. McVay falls in love with certain role players all the time and eventually moves on when its painfully necessary an upgrade was needed all along.
Amazing how our offense has excelled with JAGs all these years under McVay
Year / Rk x Yds / Rk x Pts/ Pass rnk / Rush Rnk
2017 / 10th / 1st / 10th / 8th
2018 / 2nd / 2nd / 5th / 3rd
2019 / 7th / 11th / 4th / 26th
2020 / 11th / 22nd / 13th / 10th
2021 / 9th / 7th / 5th / 25th
2022 / 32nd / 27th / 27th / 28th
2023 / 7th / 8th / 10th / 11th
2024 / 15th / 20th / 10th / 24th
2025 / 1st / 1st / 1st* / 7th
2026 / 4th / 10th / 6th* / 6th
* same jags on the roster in 2025-2026
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El Chapo Jr
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Well they aren't our primary WRs so this post doesn't prove anything as long as those compenents are functioning well. The problem with what you're posting is we are dealing with an aging, hurt, and possibly in his last year Adams and an ailing Puka in a year where it's pretty evident the offensive is having struggles getting going. Why does it bug you to state what these WRs are? I'm just saying we need to improve this room and its overdue. My definition is to have more young competition with some good athletic traits to build off of.
Rams resources to make a trade are limited. Not a lot of draft picks left. According to OTC the Rams have $8k cap space left. Not 80K. Not 800K. Not 8 mil. They have 8 thousand. If they make a trade for a guy they'll have to pick up his remaining contract. They'd have to do some serious finagling to make it work. Restructuring and pushing money to next year.
Calling all people smarter than I (this should include most everyone):
Is the lack of targets to the other WRs a function of their lack of ability or of Stafford's propensity for locking onto one receiver (Calvin Johnson, Cooper Kupp, Puka) as a security blanket?
Is the lack of targets to the other WRs a function of their lack of ability or of Stafford's propensity for locking onto one receiver (Calvin Johnson, Cooper Kupp, Puka) as a security blanket?
Over the last two years..
You're making the case the offense is good because of the other WRs?
No. lol
And.. on top of that.. the Rams don't even have their #3 WR from last year on the roster... Smith did more than any of the other guys.
Last year also featured the Rams unleashing a novel approach.. going 13 at an extreme rate, in relation to the league, and they were uniquely positioned to exploit that change.
The league catches up to that kind of schematic change quickly. It doesn't mean the league has solved it.. but it means the league is more ready for it.
The Rams are currently down to 4th in yardage... 10th in scoring... and has scored 16, 21 and 24 points over the last three weeks.. with none of those three games against good defenses.
The red engine light is flashing right now... and having better WRs outside of Puka and Adams would be a big help.
Could be Stafford doesn't have the same amount of trust he has with Puka and Adams. Could be McVay's play calling. Could be the other receivers don't separate and get open enough. And could be all of the above.
I get the hope and desire to see this, but it's unlikely.
They don't have the same resources this offseason as last year. They have a lot of money but their needs with pending free agents is 5x higher....literally.
4 out of the 5 starting OL are free agents in addition to Puka, Turner, BY, Parkinson, and Allen. They will spend considerable resources addressing those holes.
And with the trade for Garrett, their draft resources are much lower.
From a practical standpoint, they'll have to do a WR room makeover in a future year.
Relevant to this.. Nate Atkins, who covers the Rams for the Athletic.. AND who covered the Lions previously... says the Rams must make a trade and wrote this about why he doesn't trust other targets..
"But as Stafford threw an out route that would have forced Still to play through the receiver’s body, Mumpfield ran a flag route, and all he could do was watch as Still picked off the pass."
When I mentioned that play previously.. someone wrote.. "That's dumb.. Stafford threw it right to the defender.." Well.. that's why it looked that way.
Gonna keep beating this drum.
More from the article..
"On one play on Sunday, Stafford had a miscommunication with Jordan Whittington, and Whittington was immediately pulled from the game."
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With the limited resources, the options are limited. Maybe someone like Juann Jennings? Would probably only take a 6th or 7th round pick. But they'd have to do restructuring with other contracts. They'd be taking on the remainder of his 8 million dollar contract. Its doable. And I think its something they should consider. He'd immediately be the WR2 with Adams out. And he's also good blocking receiver.
I believe that data suggests it's reason #1 or #2, not that other receivers aren't getting open.
The data I'm referring to is the efficiency of the offense when one of the top two targets misses a game. This happened last year and in prior years, but let's look at last year since its recent. Last year, either Puka or Adams missed 4 games. The offensive efficiency increased and so did scoring with the team averaging 33.25 points per game.
More receivers got targets proving that it's not an issue of no one else getting open. I suspect its mostly Stafford having trust in his top guys. He did the same thing in Detroit.
brucebruce
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Rams opposing DBs look uneasy when Tutu runs into the secondary.
Honestly, might be worth considering. He's a headcase, but he hates Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch.Aiyuk is available