Potential WR Trade Targets

[0311rams]

Reminds me of the tree in the forest adage.

Stafford sees him, just not gonna throw to him. someday he might tell us.

 

[badnews]

Best I can tell, anyone that has said anything positive about Tutu has simply pointed out that he has made plays when given the opportunity and that his speed opens things up for others. That's basically it.

Meanwhile he seems to get so much negativity from some for things completely out of his control.

Exactly. Well put.
Giving him a balanced assessment based on his play somewhow equals being an apologist, fanboy, his dad, etc.

. . . Effective when called on, helps win games, knows the playbook for every WR position, draws PIs but doesn't commit penalties, doesn't drop catchable balls, a team first guy who creates no drama on or off the field . . .
^am I describing a "bad" WR5/WR6 ?

 

[BonifayRam]

Big element here at this moment in time Saturday afternoon......TE Colby Parkinson is listed as questionable for the Rams’ game against the Chargers with a rib injury.

I do NOT see McVay going into this game with only 2 TE"s Higbee & Allen, active.

 

[Fire Ants]

Talk about a case of data manipulation.
If anything it shows how the Rams are only going to use him in plays with higher success rates, not the other way around.

Yes, the Rams only run certain plays for success.
The rest of the time they prefer failure.

 

[brucebruce]

Here's a question for you... If Tutu gets open but the QB doesn't see him and cannot actually hit him in stride down the field when he does throw it to him, does it matter?

How many games now have people been complaining about Tutu not getting targets. It's beyond old man. We've been hearing it and hearing it and hearing it. And then in the season where the Rams let his little ass go, what happens? They trade for him and here we are back in the same exact place, with everyone lamenting how he doesn't get targeted.

Not that I think targeting is his problem. I disagree with you on that. You could take many WRs in this league and find snaps where they get open. But what does it look like when we need a catch for a critical down and the play goes to him as a top read. What's the success percentage on that one. Especially when he's got a good DB on him because we're missing our best threats. And I'm fine with the disagreement. I don't hate Tutu. It just irritates me to still be hearing about poor Tutu when he's had how many years to break out in this offense.

Small WR can't be seen by QBs downfield? What a load of

 

[HitStick]

Small WR can't be seen by QBs downfield? What a load of

Ehhh...maybe, but its a lot harder to tell when I player is open down field if its only by a step or two, the QB also has to be able to hit him in stride or lead him enough, because he's not out muscling or out jumping any DB in this league. Its 10x a more difficult throw throwing to someone that small than it is someone that's over 6'

 

[Mojo Ram]

Is Tutu another another 2nd rd bust?
Is it the Rams fault he’s a bust?


It’s pretty obvious (to me) that he was drafted with the hopes of becoming a DeSean Jackson. Ambitious goal to be sure, but clearly Tutu never came remotely close to fulfilling that role.

The Rams don’t throw to him much. He’s a decoy. I’d like to see a few balls thrown deep because Tutu can draw PI’s. He’s underutilized in that regard.

He’s on the roster today, but they did cut him loose once already. He did nothing in Miami.

I can see “some” utility in having Tutu on this team, but ultimately for me, Tutu is yet another disappointing 2nd rd pick devoted to the skill position. Low impact role player.

Just my thoughts

 

[badnews]

Is Tutu another another 2nd rd bust?
Is it the Rams fault he’s a bust?


It’s pretty obvious (to me) that he was drafted with the hopes of becoming a DeSean Jackson. Ambitious goal to be sure, but clearly Tutu never came remotely close to fulfilling that role.

The Rams don’t throw to him much. He’s a decoy. I’d like to see a few balls thrown deep because Tutu can draw PI’s. He’s underutilized in that regard.

He’s on the roster today, but they did cut him loose once already. He did nothing in Miami.

I can see “some” utility in having Tutu on this team, but ultimately for me, Tutu is yet another disappointing 2nd rd pick devoted to the skill position. Low impact role player.

Just my thoughts

And that's a perfectly reasonable assessment. He wasnt a good pick based on value. If Tutu had went a couple rounds later, he'd be neither "hated" or "defended", he would just be an underused role player.

 

[jacktheripper85]

Don’t even know why we’re arguing about a 3rd receiver when Stafford doesn’t even look at his #2 - unless we’re inside the 10 yard line. Let’s face it, whether it’s McVays offense or comfortability Stafford is going to Puca, a TE or a RB. Whether Stafford isn’t comfortable going through all his progressions or he’s nervous about the pass rush he just doesn’t look to those guys.

And those guys get open. It’s been proven many times. Stafford just doesn’t look their way. He feels the other options are better. In my opinion, I’d stop worrying about a 3rd WR that’s going to be ignored and look at other positions to improve the team. Just my 2 cents.

 

[snackdaddy]

Is Tutu another another 2nd rd bust?
Is it the Rams fault he’s a bust?


It’s pretty obvious (to me) that he was drafted with the hopes of becoming a DeSean Jackson. Ambitious goal to be sure, but clearly Tutu never came remotely close to fulfilling that role.

The Rams don’t throw to him much. He’s a decoy. I’d like to see a few balls thrown deep because Tutu can draw PI’s. He’s underutilized in that regard.

He’s on the roster today, but they did cut him loose once already. He did nothing in Miami.

I can see “some” utility in having Tutu on this team, but ultimately for me, Tutu is yet another disappointing 2nd rd pick devoted to the skill position. Low impact role player.

Just my thoughts

I'm disappointed in his use. The thing is, I don't know how much is him and how much is the play calling. Of if Stafford doesn't trust him enough. When he's on the field he's usually the fastest guy out there. I sure would love to see them take a few deep shots. Loosen up the defense if nothing else.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Maybe we should make Nacua the slot TE and surround him with track stars on the outside

 

[OldSchool]

So far this season Stafford has the the following numbers

10 different targets 8 caught passes
9 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 rec on 2 targets)
8 targets 7 caught passes
9 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 rec on his 1 target)
8 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 for 1)
7 targets 7 caught passes
7 targets 7 caught passes

He's at 8.3 targets a game with very few not catching passes including Tutu but it seems in here that Stafford refuses to target him for some reason. It's all the MVP's apparent dislike for Tutu that he refuses to throw to him. Ferguson has only played 3 games and has 7 receptions to Tutu's 3 and double the yards but it's all Stafford.

Makes sense. Maybe McVay is putting him out there and he's the last read and Stafford gets rid of the ball before getting to him. Who knows what the reasons are all we have are the results and those aren't in Tutu's favor.

And I don't hate him that comment is beyond idiotic. There's no hate here he's a Rams player and I'd like nothing more than him to turn it on and be amazing for the Rams and help the team to win another Super Bowl so shove it with this hate nonsense.

 

[badnews]

Maybe we should make Nacua the slot TE and surround him with track stars on the outside

You jest but I cant help but think a slightly heavier Puka would've been a lethal hybrid slot for the GSOT

 

[kurtfaulk]

So far this season Stafford has the the following numbers

10 different targets 8 caught passes
9 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 rec on 2 targets)
8 targets 7 caught passes
9 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 rec on his 1 target)
8 targets 8 caught passes (Tutu 1 for 1)
7 targets 7 caught passes
7 targets 7 caught passes

He's at 8.3 targets a game with very few not catching passes including Tutu but it seems in here that Stafford refuses to target him for some reason. It's all the MVP's apparent dislike for Tutu that he refuses to throw to him. Ferguson has only played 3 games and has 7 receptions to Tutu's 3 and double the yards but it's all Stafford.

Makes sense. Maybe McVay is putting him out there and he's the last read and Stafford gets rid of the ball before getting to him. Who knows what the reasons are all we have are the results and those aren't in Tutu's favor.

And I don't hate him that comment is beyond idiotic. There's no hate here he's a Rams player and I'd like nothing more than him to turn it on and be amazing for the Rams and help the team to win another Super Bowl so shove it with this hate nonsense.

You'd think the Rams would like to have some chunk plays instead of dinking and dunking down the field all the time. Why not throw it deep to tutu a few times a game? I bet Stafford would throw it deep if puka went down the field.

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[OldSchool]

You'd think the Rams would like to have some chunk plays instead of dinking and dunking down the field all the time. Why not throw it deep to tutu a few times a game? I bet Stafford would throw it deep if puka went down the field.

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I wonder with McVay if he doesn't want it to be via YAC instead of deep passing. We've heard he prefers the defense to not give up big plays. Does he not want the deep passes because maybe they're in his mind more likely to be intercepted than the stuff we do right now? Not saying I think that's it but it's something I wonder about with him and what he wants. Has he ever really used a guy on offense that had really top end speed? We've had them but they have never really been that I can remember a major contributor. Gurley is really the main one I thought of. Cooks had the one 80 catch year and he's a 4.35 ish guy. Other than that anybody with real speed hasn't done much for the Rams consistently. We all say we need speed but does McVay really want it? Will he really use it?

 

[Mojo Ram]

You jest but I cant help but think a slightly heavier Puka would've been a lethal hybrid slot for the GSOT

Better then all the TE’s we’ve drafted since 2017 but I digress.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I wonder with McVay if he doesn't want it to be via YAC instead of deep passing. We've heard he prefers the defense to not give up big plays. Does he not want the deep passes because maybe they're in his mind more likely to be intercepted than the stuff we do right now? Not saying I think that's it but it's something I wonder about with him and what he wants. Has he ever really used a guy on offense that had really top end speed? We've had them but they have never really been that I can remember a major contributor. Gurley is really the main one I thought of. Cooks had the one 80 catch year and he's a 4.35 ish guy. Other than that anybody with real speed hasn't done much for the Rams consistently. We all say we need speed but does McVay really want it? Will he really use it?

They had desean Jackson in 21 and threw it deep to him in the 1st game for a td. Then we never saw him on the field again. We should have seen that as a sign of how Mcvay would use tutu.

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[OldSchool]

They had desean Jackson in 21 and threw it deep to him in the 1st game for a td. Then we never saw him on the field again. We should have seen that as a sign of how Mcvay would use tutu.

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Yeah flash plays I mean Tutu had a long one last year too. It just doesn't look like he wants to utilize a speedy WR and most of the RB he's drafted aren't exactly burners either with both KW and Corum both 4.5 guys IIRC.

 

[Merlin]

Is Tutu another another 2nd rd bust?
Is it the Rams fault he’s a bust?


It’s pretty obvious (to me) that he was drafted with the hopes of becoming a DeSean Jackson. Ambitious goal to be sure, but clearly Tutu never came remotely close to fulfilling that role.

The Rams don’t throw to him much. He’s a decoy. I’d like to see a few balls thrown deep because Tutu can draw PI’s. He’s underutilized in that regard.

He’s on the roster today, but they did cut him loose once already. He did nothing in Miami.

I can see “some” utility in having Tutu on this team, but ultimately for me, Tutu is yet another disappointing 2nd rd pick devoted to the skill position. Low impact role player.

Just my thoughts

Jackson gets up for the ball. He acts like that thing is his when it's in the air. Tutu looks surprised or waits it in or doesn't adjust to the arc quick enough and it's outside his miniscule catch radius.

If a wideout is small in the NFL he must have a big time Napoleon complex. This is a big man's game. The DBs nowadays seem to have a lot of six footers out there. Even quite a few over that height at corner.

What he's trying to do isn't easy. I give him that.

Giving him a balanced assessment based on his play somewhow equals being an apologist, fanboy, his dad, etc.

Well my go-to is usually "Mrs. Atwell," admittedly.

 

[CoachAllred]

The Rams don’t throw to him much. He’s a decoy. I’d like to see a few balls thrown deep because Tutu can draw PI’s. He’s underutilized in that regard.

I want to see more tutu.. He's not just good for PI's the kids small but he has very good hands and the vision to
adjust quickly to the ball in flight.
The Rams are a ground and pound first.. but need to draw up a tutu package. He could be a double or single move nightmare if given the chance. JMHO