Poll Only: Keep the Stache or Not?
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As much as I've criticized Fisher, I'm still on the fence. Its easy to see why people want him gone. We're in year 4 and his team looks worse than year one. The defense is better than year one, but the offense has gotten way worse. Then there's that regression each year. Starting in 2012 his win percentage was .462/.438/.375/.364. We could improve on this year's .364 percentage or we could get worse. I honestly can't see improving on it.
But with all that going against him, I have to wonder what the line will look like next season. They'll have more games under their belt. Be more familiar with each other. We knew they would struggle early on. We were hoping they would start gelling by now. Hasn't happened.
Hasn't helped that Foles has just completely fallen flat. He can't see what's transpiring on the field and he can't throw with any accuracy. I don't think Fisher saw that coming. He's playing like a quarterback who's been battered for 16 games. And quite honestly, I thought the protection has actually improved since the Green Bay game. For whatever reason Foles has totally lost any edge he might have had.
If Fisher gets fired I'm ok with that. I believe his methods are obsolete for today's NFL. Defensively, you can't intimidate with crushing hits anymore. Try and separate a receiver from the ball at the moment of the catch will probably result in a flag. Rules have evolved to favor the passing game more. And he wants to be a run first team.
But if he gets another year, I'm ok with that. I'm hopeful the line will get better with more time together and Gurley will have lanes to run through. And I'm hopeful they'll find a quarterback who will take advantage of the extra attention Gurley will have.
But with all that going against him, I have to wonder what the line will look like next season. They'll have more games under their belt. Be more familiar with each other. We knew they would struggle early on. We were hoping they would start gelling by now. Hasn't happened.
Hasn't helped that Foles has just completely fallen flat. He can't see what's transpiring on the field and he can't throw with any accuracy. I don't think Fisher saw that coming. He's playing like a quarterback who's been battered for 16 games. And quite honestly, I thought the protection has actually improved since the Green Bay game. For whatever reason Foles has totally lost any edge he might have had.
If Fisher gets fired I'm ok with that. I believe his methods are obsolete for today's NFL. Defensively, you can't intimidate with crushing hits anymore. Try and separate a receiver from the ball at the moment of the catch will probably result in a flag. Rules have evolved to favor the passing game more. And he wants to be a run first team.
But if he gets another year, I'm ok with that. I'm hopeful the line will get better with more time together and Gurley will have lanes to run through. And I'm hopeful they'll find a quarterback who will take advantage of the extra attention Gurley will have.
Interesting, but of course there is only one vote that counts..That one, unfortunately, trumps us all...
BatteringRambo
Inked Gym Rat Stoner
Yes, but only if he concedes the entire offensive side to the OC...a new OC, hired by Snead.
Post #10,000
Aren't i supposed to get a visit from the RODfather or something?
Aren't i supposed to get a visit from the RODfather or something?
Carolina unfortunately has a franchise QB.
Bradford was not Fisher's pick, so he gets a pass there. But there were some head scratchers of picks, and most notably the lack of a good backup or someone else to develop if things went badly. Even the great teams around the NFL still spend draft picks on QBs, even high picks (the Pats spent a 2nd on Garoppolo) because the need is that high at this position and guys can and do get hurt. SB's injuries arent his fault, but he is still the guy who brought in Foles.
After Foles struggled after that first game, the damning thing to me was not only did he not improve or even stay the same but he just got progressively worse. I feel this is just Fisher's MO now. If Fisher was some hotshot new coach, sure. We have TWENTY years of evidence at this point and a leopard isn't going to change his spots. From the mediocrity of Steve McNair to the headcase of Vince Young, I just dont think he "gets it". Fisher is trying to play 80-90s football in a new era, and even teams who build around run/defense still dont win without a QB. Defenses are too good vs one dimensional teams.
Maybe a guy like Cowher would be interested. He has changed his stance from yes he wanted to coach to maybe to no, but I think the early reports were accurate that if he felt the opportunity was right and things were in place he would do it. All this team needs is a draft or two of some OL and to find a QB. Either that or find one of the offensive guys like Gase or even Hue Jackson to come in and take over.
Bradford was not Fisher's pick, so he gets a pass there. But there were some head scratchers of picks, and most notably the lack of a good backup or someone else to develop if things went badly. Even the great teams around the NFL still spend draft picks on QBs, even high picks (the Pats spent a 2nd on Garoppolo) because the need is that high at this position and guys can and do get hurt. SB's injuries arent his fault, but he is still the guy who brought in Foles.
After Foles struggled after that first game, the damning thing to me was not only did he not improve or even stay the same but he just got progressively worse. I feel this is just Fisher's MO now. If Fisher was some hotshot new coach, sure. We have TWENTY years of evidence at this point and a leopard isn't going to change his spots. From the mediocrity of Steve McNair to the headcase of Vince Young, I just dont think he "gets it". Fisher is trying to play 80-90s football in a new era, and even teams who build around run/defense still dont win without a QB. Defenses are too good vs one dimensional teams.
Maybe a guy like Cowher would be interested. He has changed his stance from yes he wanted to coach to maybe to no, but I think the early reports were accurate that if he felt the opportunity was right and things were in place he would do it. All this team needs is a draft or two of some OL and to find a QB. Either that or find one of the offensive guys like Gase or even Hue Jackson to come in and take over.
Post #10,000
Aren't i supposed to get a visit from the RODfather or something?
Either that or you'll wake up with a lambs head in your bed.
raised_fisT
Hall of Fame
As you pointed out, they had also gone 12-4 the year before. Fisher wouldn't be on the hot seat right now if the Rams were coming off a 10+ win season.
The season isn't over yet!
5 games left will show the direction. I truly believe they will win Sunday so there's one down and 4 to go
fancents86
Starter
HometownBoy
Hall of Fame
I've already made it fairly clear where I stand, unless we get a meddling owner ala Bud Adams, I don't see Fisher ever changing his old, archaic ways and we'll continue to flounder from his poor offensive understanding.
It's not fair to bring the obvious common sense stuff into this type of discussion. Stop it or I am reporting you to the admin team.
LetsGoRams
Pro Bowler
Other injuries too - Tru Johnson and McDonald have missed some time - Quick not all the way back, Gurley coming off of ACL. Not to mention a blow up at QB. That's a lot to overcome.
Yep, and then there is the whole Bailey getting shot in the head thing. We are operating under an injury curse, maybe we should draft a shaman or a doctorate of voodoo.