Pick 19 - WE HAVE A 1ST ROUND PICK

[Ramon Ram]

Crazy Legs 2.0

A defensive version of Christian McCaffrey

 

[Merlin]

He also looks like a guy who loves to play football and give 120% consistently. You can’t teach that. I see him as a mid to late 1st round pick. Which would mean he’s in play for the Rams if they see the value.

I wonder if ethnicity will factor in with him. Truth is corner is a position dominated by the best black athletes on the field. Now you got this white kid looking like a fucking unicorn in not only projecting as a corner but maybe a top corner.

This is why I say he may be projected as a safety by some teams. NFL GMs have shown they can groupthink a bit too much on certain guys.

For myself he looks like a corner and a fine prospect.

 

[Londoner]

Truth is corner is a position dominated by the best black athletes on the field.

White men can't jump... routes.

 

[snackdaddy]

I have seen numerous mocks with DeJean going to us at #19. He'd be a good choice. And a punt returner too. Another Cooper could be in the second round. Cooper Beebe at guard. I'm not a draftnik or anything like that but I read he's a road grader type. Loves to hit people in the run game using his power.

 

[OldSchool]

I have seen numerous mocks with DeJean going to us at #19. He'd be a good choice. And a punt returner too. Another Cooper could be in the second round. Cooper Beebe at guard. I'm not a draftnik or anything like that but I read he's a road grader type. Loves to hit people in the run game using his power.

He is a big road grader but his pick would signal either Dotson isn't coming back or Avila is moving to center and Shelton isn't coming back. Avila was great and has played center before but there are risks moving a guy in his second year. Yes he might be great in the move but there are risks.

 

[Merlin]

We need to stop risking valuable players on returns. Draft a return specialist late round.

 

[OldSchool]

We need to stop risking valuable players on returns. Draft a return specialist late round.

Anybody but the fair catch champion

 

[snackdaddy]

He is a big road grader but his pick would signal either Dotson isn't coming back or Avila is moving to center and Shelton isn't coming back. Avila was great and has played center before but there are risks moving a guy in his second year. Yes he might be great in the move but there are risks.

By the time the draft arrives we'll know if Dotson is coming back or not. I'm thinking in case he doesn't. What I'm hoping for is the sample size of high level play is too small for teams to offer him a big contract and maybe we'll be able to afford bringing him back.

 

[OldSchool]

By the time the draft arrives we'll know if Dotson is coming back or not. I'm thinking in case he doesn't. What I'm hoping for is the sample size of high level play is too small for teams to offer him a big contract and maybe we'll be able to afford bringing him back.

All very possible

 

[WestCoastRam]

Dejean's a fun pick and most likely can take over and excel in the Star position for us. There may be a superior option at 19 (say WR) who we take but I'd be pretty happy with DeJean if he's the guy.

 

[HX76]

I don’t follow college teams but from what ive been reading I like the sound of the following:

Cooper DEJEAN
Brock BOWERS
Quinyon MITCHELL
Ladd MCCONKEY
Chop ROBINSON

I guess some may be gone by the time we pick though.

The only other name I can give you, as I did catch a bit of him playing for Kentucky during the season is running back Ray DAVIS. I’m guessing he’d be someway down the pecking order though?

 

[WestCoastRam]

2024 NFL mock draft: Why Drake Maye is the man for Chicago, while the top 10 is a run on offense

Nate Tice's second mock draft goes into detail on why Drake Maye is QB1, why the Patriots get their QB (just not Caleb Williams), and why we don't see our first defensive player off the board until well into the first round.

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This is Nate back in Nov. Think he's spot on about May vs Williams too, btw. I respect his analysis a lot. Cool to see what he sees for 1st round. Wouldn't sneeze at his pick for us but with film study coming to an end for teams and boards getting stacked, not sure Mitchell is there for us.

 

[Flatlyner]

By the time the draft arrives we'll know if Dotson is coming back or not. I'm thinking in case he doesn't. What I'm hoping for is the sample size of high level play is too small for teams to offer him a big contract and maybe we'll be able to afford bringing him back.

I'm wondering where he factors in with the highest paid OG's currently. Surely he isn't expecting to be paid as much as a guy like Thuney who has had multiple Pro Bowls (16m avg). Based on our last OG that thrived in our system and went elsewhere for cash, Corbett, his avg salary is $8.7m. I think Dotson will be around 10-11m/yr for a 3 year deal. I'm sure the Rams can backload it so they can use more cap this year to make that push. On the other hand, he would likely net a 4th round comp at around that salary if he signed elsewhere so I could see them letting him walk and resigning Shelton. Addressing an OG in the draft or FA, several at least interesting options out there (Risner, C.Williams, Hunt, etc.)

 

[Flatlyner]

2024 NFL mock draft: Why Drake Maye is the man for Chicago, while the top 10 is a run on offense

Nate Tice's second mock draft goes into detail on why Drake Maye is QB1, why the Patriots get their QB (just not Caleb Williams), and why we don't see our first defensive player off the board until well into the first round.

sports.yahoo.com

This is Nate back in Nov. Think he's spot on about May vs Williams too, btw. I respect his analysis a lot. Cool to see what he sees for 1st round. Wouldn't sneeze at his pick for us but with film study coming to an end for teams and boards getting stacked, not sure Mitchell is there for us.

Some solid analysis on the QB's, but, can't see Caleb not going first. If they want Maye, it would make a ton more sense to get the Commodes/Pats to trade up and get him. Everyone is making the connection between their new OC and Caleb, so maybe it makes sense. I've always thought that the Bears should trade back to 2 or 3, they will get a load of picks and be in a nice position next year, and draft likely the best player in the draft in Marvin Harrison Jr. This sets them up for Fields to either succeed this year and go forward with them, or give them the ammo to trade up next year.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Some solid analysis on the QB's, but, can't see Caleb not going first. If they want Maye, it would make a ton more sense to get the Commodes/Pats to trade up and get him. Everyone is making the connection between their new OC and Caleb, so maybe it makes sense. I've always thought that the Bears should trade back to 2 or 3, they will get a load of picks and be in a nice position next year, and draft likely the best player in the draft in Marvin Harrison Jr. This sets them up for Fields to either succeed this year and go forward with them, or give them the ammo to trade up next year.

I like the idea of getting Harrison but I think Fields is still a gamble at this point if he can put it together from the pocket. Sadly, the Bears squandered having a clearer picture of his development by having an OC refuse (seemingly) to tailor an offense to his young QB. Should have been a designed run, option, RPO attack while Fields developed from the pocket.

Add to that that both Maye and Caleb are superior QBs than what Fields was coming out and you get to reset the super valuable rookie QB deal with them. I think it's a no brainer you trade Fields for most likely a 2nd.

 

[Merlin]

I don't want to hate on Harrison who is obviously a hell of a prospect but he doesn't leap off the film to me. There are other big wideouts in this draft and is there all that much dropoff from him to some of them. Him vs Brian Thomas of LSU for example.

So idk where these guys are going to slot. But I will say that when I watched LSU games to get a good look at their QB I ended up being wowed by their WRs. In fact I'm of the mind that LSU had sick ass talent out there for Daniels. Not knocking him either, outside of saying that he was fucking loaded at the position so to some extent his yards per pass relates to that.

Nabers isn't quite at that Chase level but I think he has some special ability to him. His hips have swivel to them that other dudes just don't have. He can juke at full speed and his acceleration in conjunction with that are gonna be nasty in the NFL if he ends up under a staff who knows how to use him. I expect he'll be an explosives generator the moment he settles in and gets comfortable.

Harrison strikes me as a jumbo possession wideout. He's not elusive. He's not a gamebreaker. I do love his physicality across the middle, the guy is a nice big target and a QB like Stafford would love him. But I wonder what he is going to run in the 40. I don't expect him to light it up and a storyline I expect is "Harrison Jr dropping in the draft." Because again comparing him to Thomas I think I would take Thomas. And I think both those LSU wideouts are gonna smoke that 40.

 

[dang]

….position dominated by the best black athletes on the field. Now you got this white kid looking like a fucking unicorn…

Hmmm….where have I heard this story recently.

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm wondering where he factors in with the highest paid OG's currently. Surely he isn't expecting to be paid as much as a guy like Thuney who has had multiple Pro Bowls (16m avg). Based on our last OG that thrived in our system and went elsewhere for cash, Corbett, his avg salary is $8.7m. I think Dotson will be around 10-11m/yr for a 3 year deal.

The top 10 guards in salary earn from 14.2 mill (#10) to over 20 mill.
And to compare apples to apples, Joe Thuney is a great example. He signed for 16 mill per season 3 years ago. (Before he made pro-bowls). Contracts rise each year, some 5-10%. That 16 mill he got then would be in the 20 mill range today.
Sportrac has Dotson's value at 16.5 mill AAV

 

[Flatlyner]

The top 10 guards in salary earn from 14.2 mill (#10) to over 20 mill.
And to compare apples to apples, Joe Thuney is a great example. He signed for 16 mill per season 3 years ago. (Before he made pro-bowls). Contracts rise each year, some 5-10%. That 16 mill he got then would be in the 20 mill range today.
Sportrac has Dotson's value at 16.5 mill AAV

Ouch. Unless it can be structured like E.Jenkins contract, I can't see us offering him that.

 

[dieterbrock]

Ouch. Unless it can be structured like E.Jenkins contract, I can't see us offering him that.

And like my friend @Allen2McVay was trying illustrate in a different thread, the average salary shouldnt be confused with the cap impact.
Using the Joe Thuney contract as an example, he signed a 5 year, 80 mill deal, with only cap hits of $4.5 mill, 8.1 mill & 13.4 mill in the first 3 years of the deal, which is about 8.7 mill per.
No reason the Rams couldnt ink Dotson to a similar structure, preserving the cap space and keeping him in Horns