Peter King on Brandin Cooks trade chatter

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Sir. He only has 1 concussion left. And that is the solid 100% truth. After his next one. He's done.
Therefore, in my opinion, and I know I'll receive instense heat for saying this. In my opinion, if you throw in Cook's concussion problem, matched with his short physical stature .... Josh Reynolds is more valuable to the team. Not even kidding.

I agree. I wish Cooks great health in the future but moving on from him and rolling with Reynolds is our best move.
 

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Here is my old man rant. I can barely stomach news stories of any type anymore. Are we that attention deficient to actually reject a story that is written essay style, without tweets adding words around the tweets?

I read a story last week that was done the way it should be done and it was memorable. Reporters should get two-three actual interviews before asserting ANYTHING for a news story. No, tweets are not good enough.

Now, we get a false story/quote, that is quoted as a source by other lazy reporters and then the original story is removed from the internet and everyone think it's fact after that.
I’ve often thought this to be the case for a while, with reporters being used to start rumors to promote interest among involved parties, sometimes requested, and other times just a big mouth looking after his own interest in a team or player.

Hockey seemed even more greasy in that regard, when I was following it. MMA can be ugly in that regard, and it’s more obvious as directly originating from agents.

The proliferation of contradictory and factual information continues to disempower these narratives.

I think it’s comical, WWE is more honest in that they directly write their own narratives.
 

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I used to enjoy King's stuff, but the last few years he seems to have regressed to being a regurgitated cliche machine...Reading his crap now is, for me, like trying to listen to Jason Witten be a football analyst !!! Don't need either..
Watched the re-airing of the Rams-Chiefs the other night and I had forgotten about Witten stumbling over Ebukam’s name, I had to listen to it several times it was so bad. I almost felt sorry for the guy,I’ve never heard anyone butcher a name so badly and he tried 3 times before giving up. It really wasn’t funny watching a guy’s career go down in flames but this was hilarious. I wonder if the suits were thinking the same thing I was which was “who thought this was a good idea, these guys suck.”
 

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Or you look at it if the value of the player makes him a border line first rounder and you get him at 52 or later, that's a good move.

They need more high end players instead of forcing needs.

Tyler Rapp is a perfect example.
Trading back for Everett & getting
John Johnson for nothing was not bad either. Copper Kupp was a steal as well.Josh Reynolds worked out both need & value.

2020 should be fun to watch. I think The Rams depth is such that there can be 3 total impact players. Last season draft was good by finding such value at position of need.
 

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I agree. I wish Cooks great health in the future but moving on from him and rolling with Reynolds is our best move.
You aware of what moving Cooks does to the cap?
Reynolds is gone after 2020, no money to sign him with Kupp up and Woods up a year later.
Reynolds is a decent WR4 but IMO can be upgraded, and with this WR class being so strong
 

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Just wanted to get in on the Peter King bashing....You lazy Peter...LAZY.

Back to your originally scheduled program
 

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Peter King...Asia Orchids perform less on the Patriots then King...

as to Cooks...When you catch a ball in traffic, do what Ike and Torrey used to do...get down....take less punishment (concussions) and live for another down...I know they used to get labeled as soft, but to me that's just smart, team oriented football....
 

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You aware of what moving Cooks does to the cap?
Reynolds is gone after 2020, no money to sign him with Kupp up and Woods up a year later.
Reynolds is a decent WR4 but IMO can be upgraded, and with this WR class being so strong

I'm aware of the cap implications, and those certainly have to be weighed out. But Reynolds has a value to us in that he wasn't a high draft pick, he's been in our system, he's performed well when called upon, and his size gives us something that none of his our other WRs do. Also we can't underestimate Reynolds as a blocker in the run game. Doesn't get talked about as much but he's got some highlight downfield blocks on some big plays for us in his career. To me you keep him in the long run. You don't need to draft a guy that can do what Josh can do potentially if you already have that guy on your roster. Robert Woods is solid, but he's getting older, and to me we should be looking at Josh and Cooper as our future at WR.

With Cooks injury history, and the fact that Josh Reynolds is a weapon we need to be utilizing more, if we can move on from Cooks now with a trade or whatever, in a way that doesn't ding us too bad, we need to do it. I want to see Reynolds and Nsimba as our 3rd & 4th WRs this coming season.
 

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I'm aware of the cap implications, and those certainly have to be weighed out. But Reynolds has a value to us in that he wasn't a high draft pick, he's been in our system, he's performed well when called upon, and his size gives us something that none of his our other WRs do. Also we can't underestimate Reynolds as a blocker in the run game. Doesn't get talked about as much but he's got some highlight downfield blocks on some big plays for us in his career. To me you keep him in the long run. You don't need to draft a guy that can do what Josh can do potentially if you already have that guy on your roster. Robert Woods is solid, but he's getting older, and to me we should be looking at Josh and Cooper as our future at WR.

With Cooks injury history, and the fact that Josh Reynolds is a weapon we need to be utilizing more, if we can move on from Cooks now with a trade or whatever, in a way that doesn't ding us too bad, we need to do it. I want to see Reynolds and Nsimba as our 3rd & 4th WRs this coming season.
Well, the cap hit would be somewhere around 8-16 mill (im no capologist), so that's not conceivable to trade him unless they were getting back something of great value. He's here for 2020. Reynolds was a 4th rounder, carries a 2 mill + salary and is a UFA after the season, he's going to look to get paid. As for Woods, he's only 27, not even 3 full years older than Reynolds.
Performance wise, Reynolds is like Brian Quick in that there's a lot of talk about what he could do, but yet he has 3 years of just not breaking out.
Catch rate %
WR
Woods 73 %
Kupp 69.3% (Kupp is only 1 year younger than Woods BTW)
Cooks 64.6 %
TE
Higbee 65.5%
Everett 60.6 % (Lowest on team amongst starters, but still impressive)

Reynolds? 50.8% for his career, 48.8 in 2019
He's decent, will work as a #4, but definitely could be upgraded in the draft
 

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Would love to deal Cooks, and the Raiders or Eagles would be the best partners to do it.
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Oh,he knew. Journalism is hard to come by these days. They have all changed their profession. Seems writing Fiction pays better.

Gotta get dimes with clicks to put food on the table for journalists these days.
 

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You aware of what moving Cooks does to the cap?
Reynolds is gone after 2020, no money to sign him with Kupp up and Woods up a year later.
Reynolds is a decent WR4 but IMO can be upgraded, and with this WR class being so strong
We're seeing an overhaul of the wideout room tbh. The Rams will replace Cooks this season with JRey. And they'll replace JRey when he leaves with a draftee they bring in this year.

Woody is going to be a problem too, mark my words. He will probably be traded next offseason because by then it will be clear he hates that contract he signed. So we'll likely see another draftee next offseason too and a much different looking unit about a year from now.
 

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@Merlin didn’t we quietly redo Woody’s deal a year ago. A good faith deal. I get the feeling Woody ends his career in Banana horns. Just my 2 cents
 

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@Merlin didn’t we quietly redo Woody’s deal a year ago. A good faith deal. I get the feeling Woody ends his career in Banana horns. Just my 2 cents
Rams gave him an affordable bonus if memory serves. It is just my suspicion that he's very unhappy with his contract and as we go forward it's unlikely they can afford to pay him more.

But I love Woody so we'll see, hope I'm wrong. (y)
 

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Well, the cap hit would be somewhere around 8-16 mill (im no capologist), so that's not conceivable to trade him unless they were getting back something of great value. He's here for 2020. Reynolds was a 4th rounder, carries a 2 mill + salary and is a UFA after the season, he's going to look to get paid. As for Woods, he's only 27, not even 3 full years older than Reynolds.
Performance wise, Reynolds is like Brian Quick in that there's a lot of talk about what he could do, but yet he has 3 years of just not breaking out.
Catch rate %
WR
Woods 73 %
Kupp 69.3% (Kupp is only 1 year younger than Woods BTW)
Cooks 64.6 %
TE
Higbee 65.5%
Everett 60.6 % (Lowest on team amongst starters, but still impressive)

Reynolds? 50.8% for his career, 48.8 in 2019
He's decent, will work as a #4, but definitely could be upgraded in the draft


McVay and company have confidence in Josh.

 

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Rams gave him an affordable bonus if memory serves. It is just my suspicion that he's very unhappy with his contract and as we go forward it's unlikely they can afford to pay him more.

But I love Woody so we'll see, hope I'm wrong. (y)

they guaranteed his incentive payments. i think it added an extra million per year.

still waaay cheap for what he would get on the open market. this might be the last year he plays for the rams if they don't up the deal.

edit - maybe not guaranteed, maybe just included them into his base salary.

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