Peter King: MMQB - 12/27/17

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PK was uncharacteristically late for his annual butt-smooching of all things Patriots, but here it is better late than never.

He decided that his creepy man-crush Tom Brady should be the MVP, not Todd Gurley. No surprise there. At least the man is consistent. Btw when Brady retires watch for PK's obsession to switch over to Jimmy Garoppolo. :sneaky:

He does gives some love to Wade Phillips further on down in the column though. So there's that.

These are excerpts to read the whole article click the link below.
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Merry Christmas, NFC: The No. 1 Seed Eagles Suddenly Look Very Beatable
Peter King

ON THE MVP

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I appreciate the greatness of Todd Gurley and the value of Todd Gurley. But he’s not the Most Valuable of the NFL in 2017. This is a 17-week, 16-game award. Games in October and November mean almost the same as games in December—unless a candidate carries his team to a division title or a playoff berth on his shoulders and is the overarching dominant factor in his team’s rise to power. Gurley, in the past two weeks, has been beyond superb, with 456 yards from scrimmage and six touchdowns in huge wins at Seattle and Tennessee.

Gurley leads the NFL in scrimmage yards and has a lead of 13 yards over Le’Veon Bell and 14 over Kareem Hunt in the NFL rushing race with a game to play. On his team: the NFL’s fifth-rated quarterback, Jared Goff, and a strong candidate for defensive player of the year, tackle Aaron Donald. So Gurley has had significant help.

In the season’s middle eight games, in the two months beginning Oct. 8, Gurley totaled 906 rushing/receiving yards and four touchdowns, and the Rams went 6-2. Very nice numbers. Not stunning numbers.

The MVP would most often be a quarterback anyway, because he touches the ball on every offensive snap and theoretically is every team’s most significant player, for better or worse. I believe other players can and should win it; I voted for Adrian Peterson in 2012.

But this year, with a week to play, the MVP on my ballot is Tom Brady. :palm:

Playing without his top target (Julian Edelman), playing while his team’s defense was being fixed on the fly, playing while taking a consistent beating, and playing at age 40 (that doesn’t matter, but it’s a part of his story), Brady has struggled some in December (four TDs, five interceptions).

But he’s still 3-1 this month. And in the Patriots’ 9-2 start, his TD-to-pick ratio was 26-to-3. I think Gurley has been an eye-opening phenom on the Rams’ recent run to a surprising division title. He’s a great player. Brady’s a more valuable player to his team, and in the league.

The AP asks for 50 voters in the media to vote for one candidate. But if we voted 1-2-3, here’s the way I’d have the field with one week to play:

Brady.
Russell Wilson.
Gurley.


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ON THE EAGLES

Philadelphia clinched home-field advantage in the NFC last night with some sort of Christmas miracle, the 19-10 high-wire win over Oakland. But it’s hard to think of a win that felt more like a loss for Philadelphia than this game. I haven’t seen the kind of inept offensive play I saw in this game since, well, since the Texans earlier on Monday. Or since the Giants on Sunday.

Suffice to say, the Eagles are in big trouble. This is relatively impossible to fathom, but Philadelphia gained 37 yards in the second half and outscored the Raiders by nine points. This is because Oakland, in eight possessions in the last 20 minutes of the game, went interception-fumble-punt-missed field goal-fumble-punt-interception-fumble. I didn’t think it was likely for Jack Del Rio to get fired this winter … until about 11 p.m. Eastern Monday.

I can imagine all the Eagles in the locker room post-game. A win’s a win. And We clinched home-field in the NFC—there’s 15 other teams that wish they could say that. And We’ve got all the confidence in the world in Nick Foles. They’re deluding themselves. Even with home-field advantage through the playoffs, the Eagles are going to have to make some plays on offense against three very good teams.

Can they make enough positive plays on offense to win even one of those games against a team with the defensive talent of New Orleans or Carolina, one of which is the likely divisional-round foe on Jan. 13 or 14; or then in a possible championship match against the Rams or Vikings; or then in the Super Bowl? Hard to imagine.

You don’t want to overstate the importance of one game. But Foles threw far better sideways than any other way Monday, and he piloted one drive of more than 14 yards in his last nine possessions against a team with a porous secondary in a major swoon entering the game. He was inaccurate, continued to have trouble finding top receiver Alshon Jeffery (two targets, zero catches) and inspired zero hope that when the games matter he’ll be able to flip some switch and respond like a playoff quarterback should.

Foles now has a five-point win over the moribund Giants and an all-time lucky win over the disorganized (that’s putting it nicely) Raiders. The next game he has that means something is nearly three weeks away. The Eagles’ staff has a lot of work to do to find some way that Foles can perform competently to win a playoff game.

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ON WEEK 17

I hate boring Week 17s. We haven’t had a truly lousy one in years, since I don’t know when. But this is how uneventful Week 17 is shaping up to be:

• The NFL thought so little of the drama in Week 17 that it canceled the Sunday night football game on NBC. Wise move. A relatively meaningless game on New Year’s Eve, with the chance it could be truly meaningless by the time it kicked off depending on the outcome of the earlier games? No thanks.

• Seven of the eight divisions in the NFL have a champion this morning. The only one that doesn’t, the NFC South, will be won by either New Orleans or Carolina … with the second-place team in the division the fifth seed in the NFC.

• The AFC has the fifth and sixth seeds open. If Baltimore wins over Cincinnati, or the Bills or Titans lose, the Ravens cop the fifth seed. That’s likely. Amazingly, as bad as the Titans have played, they’re the sixth seed with a win over Jacksonville or losses by the Bills and Chargers. The Chargers and Bills are long shots for that sixth seed.

• The most interest development, to me, is the battle for the third and fourth seeds in the NFC. The Rams have a tough game against the surging Niners on Sunday; Jimmy Garoppolo has won four in a row since taking the starting quarterback job. If I were Sean McVay, I wouldn’t play that game like the seventh game of the World Series.

I’d rather be the fourth seed in the NFC than third. A divisional weekend game at likely second seed Minnesota shapes up to be a tougher game than at top seed Philadelphia, based on what we’ve seen in two weeks of Nick Foles in relief of the injured Carson Wentz. It’ll be interesting to see how the Rams play that game.

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Quote of the Week

“Officials up here, they always find a way to get it right for the Patriots. That's not the reason why we lost, but it sure would have helped out in the game.”
—Bills running back LeSean McCoy, after the controversial (to put it mildly) overturned Kelvin Benjamin touchdown marred Buffalo’s loss to New England.

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THE AWARD SECTION

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OFFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

DeAndre Hopkins, wide receiver, Houston. I know. Two catches, 41 yards in a dispiriting 34-6 loss to Pittsburgh. But there has not been a more difficult catch in the NFL this season than the 3-yard touchdown catch Hopkins made in the lost cause of a game Monday evening in Houston. It’s hard to describe it, except to say he reached around with one arm and batted the ball so he could catch it one-handed with the other, all the while fighting off a Steelers defender.

Hopkins had just started making beautiful music with Deshaun Watson when Watson went down with a torn ACL in late October. (In their last game together, at Seattle, Hopkins had eight catches for 224 yards.) The reason I’m likely to make Hopkins one of my two All-Pro wide receivers when I submit my Associated PressAll-Pro and season awards ballot six days from now is that, even without Watson, Hopkins has had 748 receiving yards and six touchdowns in eight games, with Tom Savage and T.J. Yates at quarterback. Imagine being on pace for a 1,496-yard season with Savage and Yates as your quarterbacks.

Jimmy Garoppolo, quarterback, San Francisco. The 49ers have been seeking a franchise quarterback since concussions forced Steve Young to retire in 2000. For the bargain-basement price of a second-round draft choice (which gets later in the round every week), they’ve almost certainly found him. In a month, Garoppolo—unless he’s a Hollywood matinee idol mirage—has become the long-lost solution.

Signs were everywhere in the 44-33 stunner over Jacksonville’s strong defense, led by the 10-play, 79-yard, easy-as-pie drive to open the game. Garoppolo’s six scoring drives out of 10 possessions (not counting the halftime kneeldown), including three late ones when the Jags made it a game, showed his command of an offense that’s still new to him.

Think of it: Garoppolo was traded eight weeks ago today, and if you watched on Sunday, you’d have thought he’d been in the Kyle Shanahan offense for four years. It wasn’t the 21-of-30, 242-yard, two-touchdown, one-pick, 102.4-rating performance that was eye-opening, or the 44 points on a top-five defense. It was the command, the grasp of the offense, the confidence.


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Todd Gurley, running back, Los Angeles Rams. Catapulting into the MVP discussion in the past two weeks with six touchdowns in two dominant performances, Gurley again led the Rams to an impressive victory—this time to help the team win its first division title since 2003. In the 27-23 win over the Titans in Nashville, Gurley had 35 touches for 276 yards and two touchdowns—118 rushing yards and 158 in the air—and leaped tall defenders in a single bound. Twice.

Gurley combines the power that Jeff Fisher cultivated with the athleticism and make-’em-miss ability that Sean McVay has wisely used. I didn’t think any 2017 player could be a better all-around back than Le’Veon Bell, but Gurley has certainly looked like it in this commanding run of greatness.

DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Cam Jordan, defensive end, New Orleans. Dominant player in the NFC South’s biggest game of the year. In putting the Falcons behind a major 8-ball to make playoffs, Jordan had two sacks of Matt Ryan and two additional knockdowns, and helped on a huge second-half goal-line stand that was the trademark of the Saints’ defensive day.

Marquis Flowers, linebacker, New England. Acquired in what was a fairly invisible trade with the Bengals for a seventh-round pick in late August for linebacker depth, Flowers came up huge in a game against Buffalo that was closer than the score (37-16) indicated. He had a team-high 10 tackles and a career-high 2.5 sacks to help the Patriots expose the weaknesses of Tyrod Taylor’s protection and ability.

SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Byron Jones, defensive back/gunner, Dallas. There has been no better downed punt in the NFL this year than the one by Jones to kill a Cowboy punt at the Seattle 1-yard line. Jones dove, his body parallel to the ground, and with the ball near the goal line flipped it back onto the field of play, where it was downed. Meanwhile, as if he’d been practicing this move since he was 3, Jones somersaulted in the end zone and popped up, barely celebrating The Punt-Downing of the Year in the NFL. Well, I’m celebrating it.

COACH OF THE WEEK

Wade Phillips, defensive coordinator, Los Angeles Rams. The amazing run of an amazing 70-year-old coach continues. With the Rams on the way to the playoffs for the first time since 2004, Phillips now has compiled a ridiculous streak of success. No one hits the ground running like Phillips.

In his first season on the staffs of the 1989 Broncos, the 1995 Bills, the 2002 Falcons, the 2004 Chargers, the 2007 Cowboys, the 2011 Texans, the 2015 Broncos and the 2017 Rams, those teams made the playoffs. Even though this Rams defense has bent, it hasn't broken, and the fact that they’re 11-4 and have clinched the division with a week to play … well, Phillips has turned out to be a smart hire (a fairly obvious one, but smart nonetheless) by egoless Rams coach Sean McVay.

GOAT OF THE WEEK

Al Riveron, executive vice president of officiating, NFL. Riveron has a very tough job. He has to be fair to 32 teams, and he has to call ’em the way he sees ’em, now that the NFL has chosen to make replay a centralized process, looping in Riveron and the officiating command center to examine replays with the referee on the field. The Kelvin Benjamin reversal, as I detail above, shows that the process has gone way too far.

The NFL first instituted replay use in 1986—there have been several iterations since—to correct obviously wrong calls. The call on the field should be reversed by Riveron and the on-field official only when the evidence to do so is incontrovertible—and there is no way to tell with certainty on the Benjamin reversal that the call is obviously wrong.

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Things I Think I Think

1. I think these are my quick thoughts on Week 16:

a. I urge you this week to watch for my MMQB story with Frank Gore, who enters the last game of his 13th NFL season Sunday against Houston 139 yards shy of his 10th season of 1,000 or more rushing yards. This is not just about the football life of Gore.

It’s about the work ethic and the lessons he’s learned along the way, such as this advice to future football players who will run in NFL backfields: “Love the game. Love the game. Perfect your craft, every day. Look at all the guys who everyone says, ‘He’s the best one.’ And be better than they are.”

b. Truly, Gore is one of the players I’ve covered who I admire the most. Read what he’s learned this week at The MMQB.

c. Frank Gore: fifth on the all-time rushing list, 74 yards from 14,000. Of the 11 top rushers of all time, he’s the only one not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame … and the only one not eligible for the Hall yet.

d. I suppose as the curtain draws on Dez Bryant’s eighth NFL season, it’s too late to say, Grow up, Dez. He’s 29 years old. Against Seattle, he was pouty about not getting the ball, and when he finally caught a Dak Prescott pass, he fumbled it away to the Seahawks. If Dallas is going to retool after this season, I’d seriously consider starting with this head case.

e. Cam Newton is one mysterious football player. I look up in the fourth quarter of a game the Panthers needed, Sunday against the 4-10 Bucs, and 57 minutes into it, Jameis Winston is out-passing Newton 367 yards to 108.

f. And then Newton plays Superman on the last drive and wins the game, after fumbling the snap, bulling into the end zone for the decisive score. He pulled that rabbit out of his hat.

g. Regarding Adam Schefter’s report that UCLA’s Josh Rosen would prefer to go to the Giants instead of the Browns: Uh, is there a quarterback with options who wants to play for the Browns?

h. Regarding Adam Schefter’s report that there are teams that believe Aaron Rodgers should be declared a free agent by the league because the Packers abused injured-reserve rules: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

i. It’s maddening to watch Matthew Stafford play quarterback.

j. I saw some people question the future of Dak Prescott after the loss to Seattle. Man, I know about five teams who wish that somehow, some way, the Cowboys would go in a different direction at quarterback. Prescott would have a ton of suitors.

k. Every time I watch the Bills, I’m more impressed with middle linebacker Preston Brown. He is a great sideline-to-sideline player.

l. This is how a losing team plays: Tampa kicker Patrick Murray, four-for-four in field goals, pushes wide a 51-yard field goal with three minutes left. Bucs 19, Panthers 15.

m. This is how a losing team plays: Panthers still down four to the Bucs, 45 seconds left, fourth-and-three, Panthers’ ball on the Tampa 5, no timeouts left for Carolina … and Tampa Bay’s Chris Baker jumps offside. The 2.5-yard penalty gave the Panthers a half-yard to make to extend the drive, instead of three yards, and Carolina converted.

n. This is how a losing team plays: Bucs held Panthers below 260 total yards in both meetings this year. Lost both.

o. Larry Fitzgerald’s Christmas Day column for The MMQB is the kind of gem that will likely make the John McCain family cry.

p. Don’t want to make too much of that egg-laying by the Jags, but giving up 44 to the Niners two weeks before a playoff game was worrisome enough. The near-brawl between teammates Malik Jackson and Aaron Colvin was just as worrisome.

q. Hmmmm. Jerry Jones called the Dallas loss “an extreme, extreme disappointment.” Beware the ides of January when Jones is disappointed.

2. I think I agree with Mike Florio on this one: The NFL needs to launch an independent investigation into the misdeeds at NFL Network, as detailed by a lawsuit by a former network wardrobe stylist, and by the story from a former makeup artist there, as told to The MMQB’s Tim Rohan. As makeup artist Erin McParland wrote, wardrobe chief Jami Cantor told her to be careful around some of the cretins at the network, saying: “You’re new. You’re pretty. You’ll be targeted.” What a horrible way to live life, to be afraid some idiots will hit on you at work every day.


3. I think I am so pleased that Lisa Olson of The Athletic wrote about the #MeToo experiences of some female sports journalists in an excellent column. I am also pleased Olson is still writing about sports, and bringing up the seamy side as well as the sunny. I covered the incident 27 years ago when Olson was harassed in the Patriots’ locker room by three players.

It is branded on my brain how the owner of the team at the time, Victor Kiam, said the Boston Herald, which assigned Olson to cover the Patriots at the time, was “asking for trouble” by assigning a woman to cover the team—and Kiam said he didn’t disagree with the abuse the players heaped on Olson. Lord, what a horrible environment the Patriots were then.

4. I think sports, and the sports media, have made progress in the treatment of women who cover and are a part of the games. Just not enough.

5. I think I can’t imagine a better part-owner of the Carolina Panthers than Steph Curry. He loves the Panthers, he loves the Carolinas, he loves football. When Jerry Richardson sells the team (I am assuming Bank of America is going to have a key role in putting a collection of wealthy and super-wealthy owner candidates together), I hope Curry is involved. Here’s what he told Rachel Nichols of ESPN about it: “I’m serious. I’m really serious about it. I think it’s such a such a unique opportunity to impact my hometown.”

6. I think this is totally crazy to say, but the Browns could go 1-31 over Hue Jackson’s first two seasons, and I would stand staunchly behind the decision to bring him back for year three.

7. I think there will be time to fete James Harrison, one of the best and certainly one of the most interesting players of this era, released by the Steelers the other day at 39. I am not convinced he’s played his last snap. But Harrison must not be forgotten, and if he doesn’t play again, we need to celebrate one of the iconoclasts of the past 20 years.

8. I think if I were John Mara and Steve Tisch, I’d ask my coaching staff why Davis Webb cannot get on the field in the height of meaningless games when:

• The Giants are 0-11 in NFC games this year, the worst mark in team history, and have been out of contention since pre-Halloween.
• The Giants have lost 13 games for the first time in the storied history of the franchise, with one meaningless game left.
• The Giants were shut out at Arizona and were pulse-less on offense.

I have stressed this over and over when discussing the Giants in recent weeks. Ben McAdoo was absolutely right in saying he wanted to play different quarterbacks for the last five games, because there was nothing to be gained for the future of the franchise by continuing to run out Eli Manning for the final five meaningless games. McAdoo, in fact, was the adult in the room in aiming to get Davis Webb two or three late-season starts.

But the public and media outcry was so shrill that the franchise wilted under the public pressure, and now the organization will enter the offseason having no idea if Webb, the third-round rookie, can walk and chew gum at the same time. A pathetic display by the Giants. You know what they say about coaches and GMs and people in football who listen to the fans too much? If you listen to the fans too much, soon you’ll be sitting with them.

9. I think one of the things I like about my life now is I’m able to work with great people to bring you stories like these, about Deshaun Watson and his commitment to live his life, in part, for things other than football. My thanks to a superb support system at NBC Sports, in particular producer David Picker, that makes stories like this possible.

And also, I should say thanks to the Watson family, for agreeing to tell a story that is often uncomfortable for them because of the personal nature of it. When my children were young, they were sports fans, and I wanted to be sure that if they rooted for specific players, these players were good people as well, because I didn’t want them to be disappointed one day if their heroes did something crummy. After working with Watson and his family, I feel good about saying: Parents, you can buy your kids Deshaun Watson jerseys.
 

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THE only statement by King that made any remote kind of sense
" You know what they say about coaches and GMs and people in football who listen to the fans too much? If you listen to the fans too much, soon you’ll be sitting with them."


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swear to God , the only time King gives Goff any praise is when he tries to say TDlll not a MVP cause he gets to much help from Goff, SMH........And yes fans, once agin Tom Terrific in MVP :mrburnsevil::baghead::shocked::puke::rant::argue::banghead:

just wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yea right. Gronk didnt help Brady. And TG hasn't carried this team to the title.

What a Moron.
 

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He contradicts his own criteria for MVP. Jimmy gropeapole could have filled in nicely but try and replace wilson in Seattle. Willson should get it before Brady.
 

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He contradicts his own criteria for MVP. Jimmy gropeapole could have filled in nicely but try and replace wilson in Seattle. Willson should get it before Brady.

I agree. By definition of MVP, and King's own explanation for that matter, Wilson should win it because he truly is the most valuable player to his team's success this season, but sadly thats not how this award is usually awarded. stats tend to be the driving factor and its hard to make a case for someone over Gurley when thats the case
 

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Did you notice that after he dissed Todd Gurley for MVP in favor of his love interest, Tom Brady, he used Kurt Warner's kids school essay to further drool over Tommy Terrific? DISGUSTING!

Yeah...Deandre Hopkins and Jimmy Garoppolo are listed before Todd Gurley as offensive players of the week. He's a fukkin tool.
 

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The AP asks for 50 voters in the media to vote for one candidate. But if we voted 3-2-1, here’s the way I’d have the field with one week to play:

Brady.
Russell Wilson.
Gurley.
I Fixed it for Pete!(y);):D
 

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Suffice to say, the Eagles are in big trouble.

Not long ago Peter King was gushing about how the Eagles were fine with Foles behind center. Called him a moron then, and gonna call him one again now. How a guy who has a national following can know so little about the league he covers just boggles the mind. He's a damn parrot, who gets inside info and has no real value added of his own outside of creative Patriots' a$$ kissing.

The dude disgusts me. Seriously.

GOAT OF THE WEEK

Al Riveron, executive vice president of officiating, NFL. Riveron has a very tough job. He has to be fair to 32 teams, and he has to call ’em the way he sees ’em, now that the NFL has chosen to make replay a centralized process, looping in Riveron and the officiating command center to examine replays with the referee on the field. The Kelvin Benjamin reversal, as I detail above, shows that the process has gone way too far.

The NFL first instituted replay use in 1986—there have been several iterations since—to correct obviously wrong calls. The call on the field should be reversed by Riveron and the on-field official only when the evidence to do so is incontrovertible—and there is no way to tell with certainty on the Benjamin reversal that the call is obviously wrong.

The bigger story here is that the NFL parted ways with Blandino after setting up an entire system that depended on someone of his caliber to execute the whole thing. The NFL, IMO, should have ponied up the bucks to keep him around, but as usual with all things referee related it wasn't important enough.

Riveron isn't the right guy to serve in that role, and is going to end up being fired at some point as the league finally reaches the obvious conclusion. But again, it all comes back to the NFL and the owners being culpable for mismanaging this entire thing.

The "creep" we have seen with the replay system is also a bigger problem at large right now. The idea that you can fix everything with replay is idiotic. Super slow-mo nuking of every scoring play is asinine. IMO they should have never gone to automatic reviews, and instead stuck with the original two reviews per team designed to fix only egregious errors.
 

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Games in October and November mean almost the same as games in December—unless a candidate carries his team to a division title or a playoff berth on his shoulders and is the overarching dominant factor in his team’s rise to power
What is he smoking? This is the latest narrative: Gurley was hibernating in the locker room until 2 weeks ago, then came out and had a couple good games. Sorry Todd. The MVP has to be dominant all season....(n)....like Tom Brady!!!!:yay::yay::yay:

On his team: the NFL’s fifth-rated quarterback, Jared Goff, and a strong candidate for defensive player of the year, tackle Aaron Donald. So Gurley has had significant help.
Like others said, Tom Terrific is the light of Peter Pan's life, torching defenses...catching his own passes... stuffing running backs on third and one and then returning punts for touchdowns...

The AP asks for 50 voters in the media to vote for one candidate. But if we voted 1-2-3, here’s the way I’d have the field with one week to play:

Brady.:palm:
Russell Wilson.:huh:
Gurley.

The most interest development, to me, is the battle for the third and fourth seeds in the NFC. The Rams have a tough game against the surging Niners on Sunday; Jimmy Garoppolo has won four in a row since taking the starting quarterback job. If I were Sean McVay, I wouldn’t play that game like the seventh game of the World Series.

I’d rather be the fourth seed in the NFC than third. A divisional weekend game at likely second seed Minnesota shapes up to be a tougher game than at top seed Philadelphia, based on what we’ve seen in two weeks of Nick Foles in relief of the injured Carson Wentz. It’ll be interesting to see how the Rams play that game.
You're right. The GQ Jimmy love has been launched with reckless abandon here in Northern California. Could we just crush this punk and set the tone, please....:rant:It's important to me!!
 
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Did you notice that after he dissed Todd Gurley for MVP in favor of his love interest, Tom Brady, he used Kurt Warner's kids school essay to further drool over Tommy Terrific? DISGUSTING!

Yeah...Deandre Hopkins and Jimmy Garoppolo are listed before Todd Gurley as offensive players of the week. He's a fukkin tool.

Holy shit I missed the part about Hopkins. Great catch. Catch of the month. But not even hands down offensive play of the week. Gurleys 80 yard screen is Definately in that conversation. And Hopkins 2 catches in a meaningless loss while Gurley has a monster day in clinching the division?? Peter king is on crack. I've gone from reading his articles to scanning them and now to ignoring them.
 

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NFL MVP award is a joke anyway. So I really don't give a crap who wins it. It's more of a popularity contest than anything else. Based on Kings criteria, the winner would have to be Wilson. But, then he gets to ignore his own criteria.

BTW, I hope Brady throws 500 yards on Sunday. The NFL leading QB in yards during the year has never won the Super Bowl that year. Go Tom!
 

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Posted this in another thread. Updated to include games from Nov. 12th to Dec. 25. Also added interception and TD percentage figures and W/L record of team. Added Wilson.

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          Com   Att   Per   Yards    TD's  TD %   Ints   INT %   YPA      W/L
Keenum    155   219   70.8%   1748    14   6.4%    4     1.8%    8.0      6-1
Brady     161   235   68.5%   1846    14   6.0%    6     2.6%    7.9      6-1
Bortles   161   255   63.1%   1872    11   4.3%    6     2.4%    7.3      5-2
Goff      149   233   63.9%   1774    15   6.4%    3     1.3%    7.6      5-2
Roeth     192   286   67.1%   1985    18   6.3%    6     2.1%    6.9      6-1
Wilson    133   221   60.2%   1475    15   6.8%    5     2.0%    6.6      5-2

Keep telling me how Brady is the MVP.
 
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NFL MVP award is a joke anyway. So I really don't give a crap who wins it. It's more of a popularity contest than anything else. Based on Kings criteria, the winner would have to be Wilson. But, then he gets to ignore his own criteria.

BTW, I hope Brady throws 500 yards on Sunday. The NFL leading QB in yards during the year has never won the Super Bowl that year. Go Tom!

Well by your same logic the Vikings have never failed to choke in the playoffs over their long history. But there has to be a first time at some point right? :p
 

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Posted this in another thread. Updated to include games from Nov. 12th to Dec. 25. Also added interception and TD percentage figures and W/L record of team.

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          Com   Att   Per   Yards    TD's  TD %   Ints   INT %   YPA      W/L
Keenum    155   219   70.8%   1748    14   6.4%    4     1.8%    8.0      6-1
Brady     161   235   68.5%   1846    14   6.0%    6     2.6%    7.9      6-1
Bortles   161   255   63.1%   1872    11   4.3%    6     2.4%    7.3      5-2
Goff      149   233   63.9%   1774    15   6.4%    3     1.3%    7.6      5-2
Roeth     192   286   67.1%   1985    18   6.3%    6     2.1%    6.9      6-1

Keep telling me how Brady is the MVP.
no way Brady is MVP, but for the 22, just turned 23 year old Mr Goff, ya gotta love his Stats, he's right there with the best and his INT rate is phenomenal
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Well by your same logic the Vikings have never failed to choke in the playoffs over their long history. But there has to be a first time at some point right? :p
Sorry, what's your point? MVP is a subjective vote based on perceptions of 50 journalist and talking heads. Playoffs is an actual action that teams have to play. Apples and Fish.
 

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Sorry, what's your point? MVP is a subjective vote based on perceptions of 50 journalist and talking heads. Playoffs is an actual action that teams have to play. Apples and Fish.

My point was givin you a hard time.
 

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Posted this in another thread. Updated to include games from Nov. 12th to Dec. 25. Also added interception and TD percentage figures and W/L record of team. Added Wilson.

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          Com   Att   Per   Yards    TD's  TD %   Ints   INT %   YPA      W/L
Keenum    155   219   70.8%   1748    14   6.4%    4     1.8%    8.0      6-1
Brady     161   235   68.5%   1846    14   6.0%    6     2.6%    7.9      6-1
Bortles   161   255   63.1%   1872    11   4.3%    6     2.4%    7.3      5-2
Goff      149   233   63.9%   1774    15   6.4%    3     1.3%    7.6      5-2
Roeth     192   286   67.1%   1985    18   6.3%    6     2.1%    6.9      6-1
Wilson    133   221   60.2%   1475    15   6.8%    5     2.0%    6.6      5-2

Keep telling me how Brady is the MVP.
Wow, you're right.
Clearly by those numbers, Goff is the MVP
 

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My point was givin you a hard time.
Wasting your time. No matter what you say, it's been said to me before. You cannot get under my skin. I have been a Vikings fan since 1966, what could you possibly say that I haven't heard already? Keep in mind I grew up 29.4 miles from Lambeau field in the heart of Packer country as a Vikings fan.
 

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Sorry, what's your point? MVP is a subjective vote based on perceptions of 50 journalist and talking heads. Playoffs is an actual action that teams have to play. Apples and Fish.
go fish!!!!!!:mrburns::mrburnsevil::homercrawl:
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