What more would you need to cost us a game we lost by three points?
I get all you are saying but I just don't agree. Martz said after the game that it seemed that they had the Rams playbook - like they knew what we were going to do before we did it. I have to guess we score at least one TD in the first half if not for the fact that they knew the formations and therefore specifically how to defend the play. That NE team doesn't practically shut out our offense that long without cheating.The Ty Law pick six was caused by our OT not cut blocking ( both of our RT's were injured and we played the "healthiest" ) the DE so Warner floated the ball and gave Law the time to jump the route .
The one week instead of two between the Conf. championship and the SB ,we were beat to crap from that game ,that second half was IMO one of the most physical halves of football I've ever seen and the SURVIVOR needed more than a week to recover. We were favored for good reason but it's common that last weeks game effects this weeks if it was extremely physical.
There is currently a "Seahawk Effect" teams playing a week after playing the Hawks have a pretty bad record .
Yeah we lost by three points but we had pretty well overcome whatever advantage the taping had provided we had the game tied ,all those things I sighted kept us from blowing them out, but we lost because we played soft expecting the Pats to play for overtime and Lovie got had.
I think the Pats would not have beaten Pittsburgh that year to even be in the SB were it not for the Steelers being beat to crap from playing the Ravens the week before.
When Gruden knew everything the Raiders were going to do the Bucs blew them out, I just don't see that what the Pats got from their cheating paid off for them that well if it was that effective IMO they'd have blown us out ,nothing we did would have worked .
As for the we should have run the ball more argument they were tackling Marshal every time they had a chance with or without the ball so I'd rank the poor officiating above the Pats double naught spy work as a factor
Are you lost?Gee. I can't say that I like the choices, but I really don't hate any of them.![]()
Yeah I don't say it wasn't A factor,I just say but for ALL those other things what they got from the taping wasn't THE reason ,we had made adjustments really had them on the ropes most of what they knew about us could have been gotten from game tapes anyway.I get all you are saying but I just don't agree. Martz said after the game that it seemed that they had the Rams playbook - like they knew what we were going to do before we did it. I have to guess we score at least one TD in the first half if not for the fact that they knew the formations and therefore specifically how to defend the play. That NE team doesn't practically shut out our offense that long without cheating.
Aside from the refs though - that stuff simply happens in football and you play through it. Cheating is a whole other ball game to me. Not only do I think it was enough of a factor to turn the results, I will forever hate that team for it. Just the way I'm wired I guess. You can play with what you are given but outright cheating is just not something I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on.Yeah I don't say it wasn't A factor,I just say but for ALL those other things what they got from the taping wasn't THE reason ,we had made adjustments really had them on the ropes most of what they knew about us could have been gotten from game tapes anyway.
I'd accept the leagues fear of a blowout and the refs. shamelessly letting the Pats hold our recs. as THE prime factor first .
Nick Saban?I think everyone already knows my answer to this. "You figure it out."
Let's not forget that there wasn't a single PF call all game. Not one. The Pats defense was given free rein to hit, spear, grab facemasks, bludgeon and hammer Ram players. That's downright dangerous.I get all you are saying but I just don't agree. Martz said after the game that it seemed that they had the Rams playbook - like they knew what we were going to do before we did it. I have to guess we score at least one TD in the first half if not for the fact that they knew the formations and therefore specifically how to defend the play. That NE team doesn't practically shut out our offense that long without cheating.
Aside from the refs though - that stuff simply happens in football and you play through it. Cheating is a whole other ball game to me. Not only do I think it was enough of a factor to turn the results, I will forever hate that team for it. Just the way I'm wired I guess. You can play with what you are given but outright cheating is just not something I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on.
Agreed.Incidently,I love the picture of the backside.Arians is a rising star in douchebagary, but he's not on Belicheat's level.
Just remember we blew them out in NE.That says it all for me.Yeah I don't say it wasn't A factor,I just say but for ALL those other things what they got from the taping wasn't THE reason ,we had made adjustments really had them on the ropes most of what they knew about us could have been gotten from game tapes anyway.
I'd accept the leagues fear of a blowout and the refs. shamelessly letting the Pats hold our recs. as THE prime factor first .
HOWEVER I do count that loss as the most regrettable thing because of how it started the finger pointing in the FO that culminated in Shaw taking Ziggies side and dismissing a guy who with a cooperative FO could have amassed a lot more wins and was certainly better than what we had for the six years that followed AND OBTW beat what we have now when it counted the most .
Sexual tension. Better watch her next time you go to a game.BTW if Mrs. Thor was answering this poll her vote would be..............................Jeff Fisher ,she hates his sunglasses ,his hair ,the way he walks , the way he talks , the way he sucks saliva in between words, when she hates, man she hates , it's not JUST heartwarming when she says she loves me,it's a relief![]()
Ybit until that fumble recovery we weren't and that was a 14 point swing , still I get your point and still say,if not for all those other factors we could have still beaten them we were really that damned goodJust remember we blew them out in NE.That says it all for me.
Which one do you have a mild dislike for, then?Gee. I can't say that I like the choices, but I really don't hate any of them.![]()