“Our $6 billion stadium” the story.

[LesBaker]

Uh Huh and the Chargers still owe the NFL $365M for relocation fee and they owe Stan a lot more than that.



Yeah dumb because the last I heard 100% of the revenue from football operations is better than 15%. It's going to cost him hundreds of millions to the NFL and to Kroenke. They can't even sell PSL's which means their seats will go to bulk buyers and sold to opposition fans. Kind of hard to estimate what you will get in terms of sales, 30-50? Heck they can't even fill the soccer stadium even with all the opposition fans. They never sold less than 50K in tickets even when they were 1-15. Their average was 65K per game with most being sellouts of 70K+. The value of the franchise would have increased close to or as much as it has in LA without the debt.

Without a fan base no team is viable over the long term. Dean Spanos may not want to sell the team but he might not have a choice. This is the price the NFL is paying for ignoring LA and allowing a generation of fans to grow up without a hometown team.

Technically they don't have to "pay". Checks don't get cut. The money is taken out in 10 payments from shared revenue the Charger receive from the NFL. Also the relocation fee was over 600MIL.

So when you add in the revenue from the NFL and the revenue from a stadium he supports with a one dollar a year investment Spanos will be making more money than he did in SD.

He's investing about none of his own money and getting 15% for it.

How would he get 100% in SD if the stadium is publicly funded? Just curious.

But Spanos has told associates that he cut a better financial deal with Kroenke than most had initially given him credit for -- and he insists privately that he really doesn't mind being a tenant. The Los Angeles Chargers are here to stay, whether the city's fans want them or not.

That says it all.

 

[LesBaker]

But teams don’t make their money from stadium revenue

Not really. Large format venues make piles of revenues. Not just from games.

IMO that stadium will be booked for 50 large scale events a year. That's a HUGE pile of cheddar.

This is why so many owners in pro sports are building their own venues.

Or... you could say that Stan is getting 85% of Spanos' revenue stream. That is actually a better description of this deal.

But at what cost @Selassie I .........he's footing the entire bill for the stadium. That's probably around half or so of the projected cost of the entire development.

This is a super sweet deal for Spanos.

I dislike the fucker, he and his family are not good people and his father was really despicable from what I know of him and have heard. All of them are greedy POS.

But Spanos IMO cut one hell of a deal.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Stay on track, please and thanks.

Not directed @LesBaker, general comment.

 

[kurtfaulk]

This is a super sweet deal for Spanos.

Of course it is. Who doesn't like making money for nothing?

However these guys live in a different world than we do. He will be seen as a second class owner. Couldn't make it on his own, just leeching off a real owner.

That's gotta be embarrassing for him, no matter what he says.

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[max]

^ This.

Which is why I can't for the life of me understand why the NFL/Refs as a unit go out of their way to SCREW us (like all 10 50/50 judgement calls -- including the game winner -- going against the Rams in the Steelers game).

You'd think they'd at least land on FAIR officiating, which would put us at 8-2.

Yes, I was at the Hawks TNF game this year, and even though GZ missed the game winner, the Rams should never have been in that position with the key roughing the passer penalties they gifted RW.

So this is the quick and easy solution.

• Call the games fairly instead of trying to make up for the NFCC last season
• The Rams will win a few Super Bowls
• The Rams'll be in play along with Lakers/Dodgers/Kings and their championships
• NFL wins $$$

Simple, right?

I agree. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that officials will be told not to screw the Rams next year.

 

[LesBaker]

Of course it is. Who doesn't like making money for nothing?

However these guys live in a different world than we do. He will be seen as a second class owner. Couldn't make it on his own, just leeching off a real owner.

That's gotta be embarrassing for him, no matter what he says.

.

So is there a spot on his bank deposit slip for what class of owner he is?

No there isn't of course. It's dollars and cents. on the bank deposit slip.

And for YEARS, two decades actually, Kreonke was "second class" and not a "real owner" in the NFL. And he helped take the team to STL. In fact it was a condition of his buying in.

Spanos doesn't care about how you or anyone else views him as he makes piles of cash.

And as far as the "couldn't make it on his own" that just fucking stupid. The Chargers have been in the dirtbag Spanos family for decades.

Spanos and Kreonke and Jones and all the rest of them are greedy pigs who are fucking over fans and have been for years and years.

 

[VegasRam]

God...

Is
This
EVER
Going
To
End?

There was a time I felt bad for St. Louis and their fans.
This slowly coming to an end.

Especially for the SJWs who just hate SK for the fact that he’s uccessful.
(Which is not allowed unless you happen to be an ex-president who goes from being broke to being worth over $100,000,000.

Then it’s OK.

And what’s really laughable is how that pos Stanis is now some kind of Saint.

 

[kurtfaulk]

So is there a spot on his bank deposit slip for what class of owner he is?

no, i explained it in the next sentence.

Spanos doesn't care about how you or anyone else views him as he makes piles of cash.

i specifically stated it's how the other owners view him.

And as far as the "couldn't make it on his own" that just fucking stupid. The Chargers have been in the dirtbag Spanos family for decades.

funny. i'm talking about right now. he couldn't get a deal for his own stadium so he had get the nfl to order stan to allow him to use stan's stadium for his shit team. thus he couldn't make it on his own. it shouldn't have been that hard to understand.

.

 

[BigRamFan]

TLDR, but freak Jerry Kines...and his cowgirls.

 

[LesBaker]

no, i explained it in the next sentence.



i specifically stated it's how the other owners view him.



funny. i'm talking about right now. he couldn't get a deal for his own stadium so he had get the nfl to order stan to allow him to use stan's stadium for his shit team. thus he couldn't make it on his own. it shouldn't have been that hard to understand.

.

You have no idea how other owners view him. You're guessing.

He didn't need a new stadium to make millions upon millions. He could have stayed in SD. The only reason he left is that he is a greedy POS and wanted MORE millions. So he went to LA. He's never had to "make it on his own" because he inherited an NFL franchise. What do you even mean by that statement?

You seem to have a hard-on for Spanos. I don't get it other than you feel like he is trespassing in "your" stadium.

It's strange to me how many posters are angry that another team is playing in the same stadium as the Rams. It has ZERO effect on anything but some peoples hurt feelings.

So..........IMO I think a Rams fan calling another team "shitty" in light of the last two decades is peculiar. Look at the last 25 years. Which was the shitty team?

 

[coconut]

So is there a spot on his bank deposit slip for what class of owner he is?

Spanos is one of 32 votes. Within the NFL that is all the class he needs. The sweetheart deal he got proves it.

 

[coconut]

God...

Is
This
EVER
Going
To
End?

There was a time I felt bad for St. Louis and their fans.
This slowly coming to an end.

Especially for the SJWs who just hate SK for the fact that he’s uccessful.
(Which is not allowed unless you happen to be an ex-president who goes from being broke to being worth over $100,000,000.

Then it’s OK.

And what’s really laughable is how that pos Stanis is now some kind of Saint.

He's certainly no saint but he looked around and watched other rich owners get the public to give them welfare stadiums and he wanted same. Good for SD that they gave him the finger. Good for LA as well. But not for Kroenke who is getting the never ending wedgie.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Anyone else see the absurdity that

"Nearly half of all Americans, about 49 percent, said that they were fans of the NFL in a poll conducted by the Associated Press in 2014. This number, however, was actually smaller than the 56 percent figure that suggested they were fans in 2013. That being said, the NFL's revenue went up over $9 billion in 2014 from the previous year, and the Super Bowl continues to be the most watched television program every year, far exceeding the number of viewers of other sports championships such as the MLB World Series or the NBA National Championship."

..but we all bootlick a few capricious owners acting purely in self interest with our beloved teams? Musical franchises is the NFL's kick in the face to all fans. The publicly-owned Packers are the only major league team done the way it should be.

(https://www.reference.com/sports-active-lifestyle/many-nfl-fans-ad650cc48aba3841)

 

[SuperMan28]

Fascinating piece. The fact that there is still so many loose ends, turmoil filled relationships between owners, and question marks in general three years into this is something I dont believe many people saw coming. It all really speaks for itself.

Just a side point I took from this. Who woulda thought the Raiders would come out as the most stable situation in all this? Mark Davis is the butt of many jokes from within and outside the NFL. On the quiet Raider front I'd say Mark Davis is breathing a sigh of relief that he's not in this bit of a NFL botch job. One might even say he's having he's counting his blessings. Figuratively, a Raiders stadium surrounded by casinos wreaks of potential. Go get it, Mr. BowlCut.

Few stories are more meaty than the soap opera that is the NFL Relocation Fiasco. Makes you wonder what defenseless NFL fan base will be victimized next. TEN? JAX? BUF? Stay tuned to see the NFL Greed Monster cut off it's own hand.

 

[max]

I laid out in much detail 4 years ago why and how the Rams would be moving to LA.

The underlying reason was money. Kroenke had much much more than the other 2 guys.

And here we are again. Some people still don’t grasp the concept of the golden rule of business. It goes like this...

the guy with the gold, rules

Spanos is a freeloader. That will come back to hurt him.

Kroenke didn’t get where he is by letting people step on him. It’s only a matter of time before he crushes Spanos.

Kroenke will have all the leverage in the league office to dominate stadium activity. He will ensure that the Chargers remain 2nd fiddle in LA. The only question that remains is whether Spanos stays.

 

[Football boy]

As a Rams fan I want the Chargers gone. Do you think for a second that Jerry Jones would allow another team to share AT&T Stadium? He won't even let another team move to San Antonio, and yet he forced Kroenke to share SoFi Stadium with another team. The Rams would have a far better chance of building a larger fan base if they were LA's only team.

 

[coconut]

Kroenke will have all the leverage in the league office to dominate stadium activity. He will ensure that the Chargers remain 2nd fiddle in LA.

Thats not up to the league office. It's up to the fans in LA. No fan should give a crap who owns the stadium. Fans just want it to look like their house on game day.

 

[coconut]

As a Rams fan I want the Chargers gone. Do you think for a second that Jerry Jones would allow another team to share AT&T Stadium? He won't even let another team move to San Antonio, and yet he forced Kroenke to share SoFi Stadium with another team. The Rams would have a far better chance of building a larger fan base if they were LA's only team.

Kroenke didn't have the votes to move as he wanted. Jones put together the deal that got the support of the owners. To move to LA Kroenke had to take the deal.

 

[Karate61]

Thank God for Stan Kroenke! That's what I got out of the article after reading it.

 

[Psycho_X]

And what’s really laughable is how that pos Stanis is now some kind of Saint.

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