Official Combine Thread

[DR RAM]

I was unimpressed with Henry. He had an OK 40 but a poor 10 yard split of 1.61. He was downright bad in the 3 cone drill. Finished with a time of 7.20 and was beaten by 2 out of the 3 fullbacks. His 20 yard shuttle of 4.38 seconds wasn't much better. He was again beaten be 2/3 fullbacks and was second to last among RBs.

His times prove what you can see on tape, a long-legged guy who has slow feet, poor burst, and struggles to change direction. He has decent top speed but backs make or break it in the NFL within 5 yards of the LOS.

Dude had a 37" vert, and a massive, almost 11' broad jump, at 247 pounds. Low 4.5 speed. IDK, I think that's pretty good. He's a power, down hill guy, not an edge guy. Just a different dude.

 

[NateDawg122]

Lot of RBs killed it today in the workouts, which was expected. Henry solidified himself with size/speed as a late round 1 guy and they talked about what a nice fit he'd be for Seattle.

Why does everyone act like Henry's size is a good thing? It's not. He's a tall target for defenders and he doesn't drop his pad level to where it needs to be. He is top-heavy with long, proportionally skinny legs. He's going to get cut down a lot. He is not a 1st round RB. I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd.

 

[DR RAM]

The target area on the shuttle is roughly .5 seconds slower than your 40 time. That's what teams look for in order to determine whether you are as quick and can change direction as well as you can run.

Tomorrow is going to be absolutely HUGE for us dudes. Biggest day of the offseason thus far IMO.

Some random notes on Sirius today:

Lot of folks flippin over Lynch and his size. Seeing him live has already started that buzz going with him.

They talked about Doughty and how Dan Marino's kids are friends with him, and according to Dan he might be the best pure thrower in the draft in accuracy. Kirwan said he'd take him round 5 and let him mature on his roster.

Lot of RBs killed it today in the workouts, which was expected. Henry solidified himself with size/speed as a late round 1 guy and they talked about what a nice fit he'd be for Seattle.

OTs Spriggs and Conklin both made themselves some money by showing they are better athletes than previously given credit for.

C Brendel and RB Marshall both forced teams to go back and re-look at their tape, both were big winners.

Sounds about what I saw. I deeper than I thought OL class, athletically. Best number wise, RB class, in a while. Looks like there are some solid 3rd down, ST backs.

Tomorrow will be very big.

 

[NateDawg122]

Dude had a 37" vert, and a massive, almost 11' broad jump, at 247 pounds. Low 4.5 speed. IDK, I think that's pretty good. He's a power, down hill guy, not an edge guy. Just a different dude.

1. He had mid 4.5 speed.
2. I've watched a LOT of film on Henry and he's not what he's cracked up to be. He's a good college RB but I see a lot of areas where he could struggle at the next level.

 

[Merlin]

Why does everyone act like Henry's size is a good thing? It's not. He's a tall target for defenders and he doesn't drop his pad level to where it needs to be. He is top-heavy with long, proportionally skinny legs. He's going to get cut down a lot. He is not a 1st round RB. I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd.

I personally am not high on Henry because he's an upright guy with no elusiveness and is gonna get dinged up. But personnel types love freaks and that's why he got buzz today, his size vs his 40 time.

 

[DR RAM]

Why does everyone act like Henry's size is a good thing? It's not. He's a tall target for defenders and he doesn't drop his pad level to where it needs to be. He is top-heavy with long, proportionally skinny legs. He's going to get cut down a lot. He is not a 1st round RB. I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd.

He'll be a good player, on the right team. IDK how good he would be on a team that doesn't fit. I think he's a late first to mid 2nd. I'd take Elliot, 5 times before Henry.

 

[Yamahopper]

I don't want Fuller, dude drops way too many passes so hope the Rams steer clear of him. All Thomas needs now is a strong 40 time and he could easily jump Treadwell on some boards.

That height hit on Doctson is gonna hurt him if he doesn't make up for it with a strong time. Those 40s are loomin large with the wideout rack 'n stack.

And yes, very happy with Goff's hand measurements. Great news for us because Cleveland is not going to take him now.

So if his hands are too small for the Browns they would be okay for the Rams?

 

[DR RAM]

1. He had mid 4.5 speed.
2. I've watched a LOT of film on Henry and he's not what he's cracked up to be. He's a good college RB but I see a lot of areas where he could struggle at the next level.

Lol, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE has seen him play live. We all have our own opinions. I'm glad we have Gurley

 

[Merlin]

So if his hands are too small for the Browns they would be okay for the Rams?

The Browns new coach went on record re: hand size due to weather and outdoor venues in that division. He does care about hand size.

I personally do not care about hand size. I love Goff as a prospect and would kill to see him slide to 15. So, yeah, I'd hope that they would be okay for the Rams.

 

[RamBill]

Daily Combine Wrap-Up: Friday

By Myles Simmons

View: http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Daily-Combine-Wrap-Up-Friday/52dcc65c-569a-4f63-b235-d696b4e9cefe


INDIANAPOLIS -- After two days filled with press conferences, groups of players at the 2016 NFL Combine began their on-field workouts. Specialists, offensive linemen, and running backs went through those events on Friday, while a few big-name players spoke to the media.

TOP STORIES

1) Henry is a stellar athlete

When you’re the Heisman Trophy winner, there’s going to be plenty attention on you at the Combine. And Alabama running back Derrick Henry did not disappoint when he hit the field on Friday.

Keep in mind that Henry checked in at 6-foot-3 and 247 pounds this week. On Friday, he ran a 4.54-second 40-yard dash, put up a 37-inch vertical jump, and a 130-inch (or 10-foot, 10-inch) broad jump. Those are some serious numbers, which Rotoworld’s Josh Norris effectively pointd out on Twitter.

Last year's top SPARQ RB, Ameer Abdullah, posted a 10'10" broad jump at 205 lbs.

Derrick Henry posted a 10'10" at 247 lbs.

— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) February 26, 2016
Based on his remarkable season -- 395 carries, 2,219 yards, 28 touchdowns -- Henry didn’t have much to prove on Friday. But he certainly still did look impressive.

2) Elliott is one serious competitor

If there was one thing that became clear from listening to running back Ezekiel Elliott, it’s his competitiveness. Yes, the back helped lead Ohio State to a National Championship for the 2014 season. And yes, he’s amassed over 4,000 yards from scrimmage and 41 touchdowns over the last two years. But to him, the most important element of his game may be his pass blocking.


“Not everyone is willing to go out there and play with a lot of effort,” Elliott said. “And blocking is another thing that running backs aren’t really willing to do. So that’s a part of my game I really made important to me to become very good at."

He also had a strong on-field day at the Combine, solidifying himself as one of the top-two backs available in this year’s draft. He recorded a 32.5-inch vertical, a 118-inch broad jump, and ran a 4.47 40.

For more on Elliott, check out our therams.com feature on him here.

3) Run fast, jump high, etc.

Henry and Elliott may be the consensus top two picks, but two other running backs were arguably the top performers in the agility drills.

Daniel Lasco of Cal was in the top four of running backs with a 4.46 40, a 41.5-inch vertical, and a 135-inch broad jump. He had some injury issues in 2015, but could be a nice pickup for a team.

Tyler Ervin of San Jose St. had a similar day recording a 4.41 40, a 39-inch vertical, and a 130-inch broad jump. He had a nice final collegiate season, rushing for 1,469 yards and 13 touchdowns.

But when it comes to the 40 times, Keith Marshall of Georgia was the fastest on Friday, running a blazing 4.31. After a strong freshman year, Marshall suffered a torn ACL in his sophomore season and was essentially passed over the rest of his collegiate career. But Nick Chubb’s injury in 2015 did allow Marshall some opportunities later in the season. He’ll be an intriguing prospect to monitor not only through the draft process, but also in the 2016 season.

AROUND THE TWITTERVERSE

A few of my favorite Tweets from Day 3 at the Combine…

Alabama LB Reggie Ragland promised he'd come down from 259 (Senior Bowl). Did just that. Weighed 247 in Indy. Dropped 12 in only a month.

— Chase Goodbread (@ChaseGoodbread) February 26, 2016
DeForest Buckner on his huge 11 3/4 hands: "Growing up my siblings would make fun of me for em.When I got here, I was shooting for that 12."

— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) February 26, 2016
#LetsGetWeird with Joey Bosa. Future son to be a 1st Rd pick?
"I guess I'll have to marry a tall, athletic girl to breed football players."

— Myles Simmons (@MylesASimmons) February 26, 2016
I’ll admit, it’s narcissistic to put my own Tweet in there, but I thought this was pretty funny. For some background: Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa is likely to get picked high in the first round. The Dolphins picked his father, John Bosa, in the first round of the 1987 draft. So a reporter asked Bosa how he could keep the family streak going, resulting in that quote.

Let’s get weird, indeed.

QUOTABLE

“I would say that would be a mistake if they did that. Like I said, I plan on doing my pro day, so if they feel like there’s a red flag or anything, that’s my job to go out there and get rid of it. So that would be a big mistake if they did that and they slept on me.”

—UCLA LB Myles Jack on if team doctors may think he’s too risky to select with a high draft pick.


“There were times where I didn’t finish. There’s times I was lazy on some plays. But I told them, I’m going to keep growing as a player and I’m going to keep learning how to finish. Become more of a student of the game and just focus on being the best NFL player I can be. … I know what’s at stake. And I know what I have to do as a player to be great in the NFL. And I’m just going to keep focusing on the things I need to focus on as a player that I didn’t focus on so much in college that I need to get better at.”

—Ole Miss DT Robert Nkemdiche on the on-field improvements he has to make heading into his rookie year.

“Definitely. Just because of being in the shotgun, and I know a lot of teams in the NFL -- basically all of them -- are under-center teams. But there have been some coaches spitting some facts to me -- about 61 percent percent of snaps were out of the shotgun this year. I think the game is kind of going that way. But, obviously, it’s still not fully that way. So I have to get used to those three-step, five-step, and seven-step drops. But that’s all I’ve been doing, so I’m very confident in that.”

—Memphis QB Paxton Lynch on if his footwork may be the aspect of his game that needs the most work.

UP NEXT

It’s the day we’ve all been waiting for, as the quarterbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends will have their on-field workouts. That means we’ll get to see the top QBs like Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and Paxton Lynch throw one right after the other. Stay tuned, because it should be a pretty interesting day.

 

[DR RAM]

Wow, very slow WR group.

 

[Ants]

Why does everyone act like Henry's size is a good thing? It's not. He's a tall target for defenders and he doesn't drop his pad level to where it needs to be. He is top-heavy with long, proportionally skinny legs. He's going to get cut down a lot. He is not a 1st round RB. I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd.

He reminds me of that RB the Giants used to have...the guy that shared time with Ahmad Bradshaw (Thunder and Lightening). What was that guy's name?

 

[RamBill]

Rams Insider Myles Simmons recaps the headlines from the third day of the NFL Scouting Combine.

Watch Simmons Combine Report

 

[DR RAM]

Jared Goff really stood out in the first group. Silky smooth release, and super easy arm motion.

 

[Akrasian]

“There were times where I didn’t finish. There’s times I was lazy on some plays. But I told them, I’m going to keep growing as a player and I’m going to keep learning how to finish. Become more of a student of the game and just focus on being the best NFL player I can be. … I know what’s at stake. And I know what I have to do as a player to be great in the NFL. And I’m just going to keep focusing on the things I need to focus on as a player that I didn’t focus on so much in college that I need to get better at.”

—Ole Miss DT Robert Nkemdiche on the on-field improvements he has to make heading into his rookie year.

ie, "Give me a bunch of money and I promise I'll actually work hard for a change. Oh, and stop falling drunkenly out of 4th story windows."

He is very physically talented - but everybody in the NFL is. The stars actually work very hard to maximize their talent, and I wouldn't trust anybody without a proven work ethic as anything but a late round flyer.

 

[OldSchool]

For those that missed it or just want to watch again:

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/nfl-network-screwup-catches-analysts-mocking-prospect-1761689273

 

[DR RAM]

For those that missed it or just want to watch again:

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/nfl-network-screwup-catches-analysts-mocking-prospect-1761689273

I thought they were talking about Wentz.

 

[Tron]

De'runnya Wilson ran a 4.9 and 4.85 in the 40. Ouch! TE conversion maybe?

 

[DR RAM]

De'runnya Wilson ran a 4.9 and 4.85 in the 40. Ouch! TE conversion maybe?

Tron, they were all pretty slow. Hands looked pretty good though. Treadwell's hands looked like huge mitts.

 

[tahoe]

Its seemed like every 40 tume has been slow this year. Maybe using a different timing device.