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I think for two reasons. First he represented a cap savings. Second he probably has lost a little range. Age and he's a buff dude, big strong guy in a league that has trended strongly to the pass game.
Plus we won't see RBs drag the linebacker for an additional 5 yards (I can't harp on that enough)I have to admit that when Wagner signed I wasn't too high on it. But right now I'm thinking he is going to be very much like Whit. Big time leader and we're gonna feel his addition through him making everyone better around him as well as holding down his job.
How many tackles did Wagner have last year? How many did Reeder have?Waggz pretty good but Dweebo would have to run straight to him in order to tackle him...Bobby gettin' a little slow and Dweebs probably out runs him on the angle
How many tackles did Wagner have last year? How many did Reeder have?
Wagner - 1,128 snaps = 89.1% of defensive snaps for the Hags 93 solo, 170 total
Reeder - 681 snaps = 58.6% of defensive snaps for our defense 48 solo, 91 total
Not a math major or genius but if you play with the percentages based on tackles per snaps there is not that much difference. Favors Waggz but it's not as dominant as some may believe.
If training camp is any indicator BWags still has plenty of juice left. He was making plays behind the LOS today, getting through the OL before the RB could get to the LOS.good deal...how many of those tackles were 5+ yards downfield? I'm not sold on him and here's hoping he proves me wrong. Why would the 'Hags let him walk if he was going to be such a stalwart and integral part of their defense?
Tackles alone doesn't tell the whole story.Wagner - 1,128 snaps = 89.1% of defensive snaps for the Hags 93 solo, 170 total
Reeder - 681 snaps = 58.6% of defensive snaps for our defense 48 solo, 91 total
Not a math major or genius but if you play with the percentages based on tackles per snaps there is not that much difference. Favors Waggz but it's not as dominant as some may believe.
Wagner - 1,128 snaps = 89.1% of defensive snaps for the Hags 93 solo, 170 total
Reeder - 681 snaps = 58.6% of defensive snaps for our defense 48 solo, 91 total
Not a math major or genius but if you play with the percentages based on tackles per snaps there is not that much difference. Favors Waggz but it's not as dominant as some may believe.
Waggz pretty good but Dweebo would have to run straight to him in order to tackle him...Bobby gettin' a little slow and Dweebs probably out runs him on the angle
I don't see how Wagner's not a significant upgrade... add to that a hopefully healthy Ernest Jones.. and the Rams D is gonna look different this year.No, football is about spacing. Watch this past NFC Championship game and notice how Debbow broke free on that screen play. The ILB, who is no longer with the team, was not able to occupy his space.
Haha, you're trying to compare Wagner to reeder?
Haha, I've never heard of such lunacy. You're just trolling aren't you?
And fuck the whiners and their running qb. Reeder made dweebo $70m richer by making him look like the best nfl player in history. Dweebo is about to see what being erased feels like again when he plays the Rams now.
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If Wagner doesn't play anywhere close to his ability, I will say - "too bad we got Wagner in his down years but he still was an upgrade over Reeder""How many tackles did Wagner have last year? How many did Reeder have?"
So yeah...I AM comparing Reeder and Wagner. People want to rant and rave about Waggz and his tackle total compared to Reeder. Well, if player A plays more than player B then it's no surprise Player A has more / better stats.
If I strike a nerve that's your problem. But you go ahead defend Wagner to the fullest. In the next year or two when we cut him do to lackluster play, please don't be that guy that says "I am glad he's gone" or "He wasn't that good any way".
So in your opinion an ILB that was only playing because of injuries to guys ahead of him, is comparable to an ILB that has been a 10 yr starter and 6 time all pro?"How many tackles did Wagner have last year? How many did Reeder have?"
So yeah...I AM comparing Reeder and Wagner. People want to rant and rave about Waggz and his tackle total compared to Reeder. Well, if player A plays more than player B then it's no surprise Player A has more / better stats.
If I strike a nerve that's your problem. But you go ahead defend Wagner to the fullest. In the next year or two when we cut him do to lackluster play, please don't be that guy that says "I am glad he's gone" or "He wasn't that good any way".
Tackles are A measurement of performance, but far from the only one on defense. And, seeing as he'll be calling the plays on D and is regarded as a HOF level ILB both in athletic performance and his game smarts, seems to be clear there's an upgrade here."How many tackles did Wagner have last year? How many did Reeder have?"
So yeah...I AM comparing Reeder and Wagner. People want to rant and rave about Waggz and his tackle total compared to Reeder. Well, if player A plays more than player B then it's no surprise Player A has more / better stats.
If I strike a nerve that's your problem. But you go ahead defend Wagner to the fullest. In the next year or two when we cut him do to lackluster play, please don't be that guy that says "I am glad he's gone" or "He wasn't that good any way".
Deebo will physically pay the price for Trey Lance's development, imo. I don't wish it on him, but I think an injury season is highly likely.We need Scott to lay his fuckin ass out again in the first matchup. Give him more to think about with that backfield usage.