NFLPA tells agents to reject “inappropriate” language in Rams contracts

[RamFan503]

Also consider this article is from Florio. Not only is he a Rams hater, he also is the laziest SOB in sports when it comes to researching his "sources". Sorry but I am guessing this is a non-issue and while it is possible that the contracts still contain this wording, what "new" players have we signed? I have to think that things like options and tendering is what the NFLPA is referring to and Florio - as usual - hasn't a clue as to what he is talking.

The NFLPA has one job - to get the most for their players from every team. If they look at contracts and see even a glimmer of something that would work out better for their players, they will pursue it. I wonder how worker's comp actually works in cases with NFL players. Maybe I should ask Florio because I am quite certain he has done his usual stellar researching job.

 

[12intheBox]

I wonder which state will get the taxes.

 

[RamFan503]

One thing is clear in this though, this Rams organization (Stan) isn't looking good on this. How greedy does he need to be? Just another example of why they are no longer my team.

Except that you really don't know the legalities of the situation, and I'm virtually positive Florio doesn't either. In fact, I'd suggest the NFLPA doesn't either by virtue of one simple statement.

“We believe that any reference to the state of Missouri is inappropriate since the Rams have relocated to California as evidenced by the fact that they have changed their name on their website to the Los Angeles Rams, are prepared to hold off-season workouts and training camp in California, and will practice and play their home games in California in 2016,”

That is their rationale? I think it is obvious that the Rams will be working out of the state of California. The key here is WILL BE. However, if they are not yet LEGALLY a CA company or have their offices, training facilities, etc. operating in CA yet, they would still be a MO company until those things occur.

I don't know what the $ amounts are in comparison. But if Stan can get a few more months out of a lower rate, why wouldn't he? What? Now he is supposed to be stupid with his money because the NFLPA caught some wording in a contract or that Florio took what the NFLPA said and is trying to make a story out of nothing?

The only people this looks bad to are those that are looking for something for which to look crossways at Stan. When all is said and done, this is a non-story in a slow NFL period, drudged up by a dickhead that is always looking to shit on the Rams.

 

[RamFan503]

Just another example of why they are no longer my team.

BTW Alan - THIS really bugs me. Why then are you here?

 

[12intheBox]

It doesn't have to be so personal. This wasn't cooked up by Stan - or any of the players / this is a lawyer thing.

The Rams lawyers want to protect the Rams. The NFLPA lawyers want to protect the players. If I represented a player - and my client would benefit from California law governing - I would object to the clause.

That's about it - I don't see anyone calling for torches or pitchforks.

But - players and agents think about whether a team is trying to work with them or trying to screw them. That's why the Rams cut Long, JL, and Cook as early as they did - as a favor to them - for the PR (not public relations - player relations). You can't be completely cutthroat and expect to be trusted.

 

[12intheBox]

BTW Alan - THIS really bugs me. Why then are you here?

He is here for us - and as far as I am concerned - should be welcome.

This whole thing has been hard - give everyone time to process it and don't push anyone away, please.

 

[RamFan503]

He is here for us - and as far as I am concerned - should be welcome.

This whole thing has been hard - give everyone time to process it and don't push anyone away, please.

Alan and I go back pretty far here. He can answer that. I'm not a fan of these kinds of statements and it has nothing to do with the point of the thread.

 

[DaveFan'51]

I wonder which state will get the taxes.

XLNT question considering the Players, if I'm not mistaken, have to pay income tax were-ever they Play week to week. Except for Home games they are all played in other States!!

 

[LesBaker]

That's the $60,000 question.

I would imagine when they filed their corporate change of address.
Do they even have an office in California yet? I mean, a permanent one?

There are offices that Shaw works out of that have a Rams shingle in the window according to an article about the move I read shortly after it happened.

I'm not sure this is a big deal.

 

[RamFan503]

There are offices that Shaw works out of that have a Rams shingle in the window according to an article about the move I read shortly after it happened.

I'm not sure this is a big deal.

I'd have to read that article again but it seemed to be some kind of unofficial LA Rams office maintained by Shaw over all this time. I don't believe it actually has any ties to the current Rams. At least I sure as hell hope not. Just the mention of that man's name makes my blood boil.

 

[ReddingRam]

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probably absolutely nothing.
I am the grumpy guy yelling at the kids to get off his lawn today

Snead nor Fisher have anything to do with contracts. That is all up to Demoff and another guy (can't remember his name) to negotiate, draw up and execute.
Snead is the talent finder and Fisher coaches. Demoff is the negotiator and Kroenke is the bank roller.

 

[Alan]

RamFan503 offended by my decision:
BTW Alan - THIS really bugs me. Why then are you here?

I'm sorry you feel that way Stu. I made it pretty clear why the Rams aren't my team anymore in an earlier post of mine. The reaction from many of my friends here at the ROD to my decision touched me and made me realize what I'd be losing by no longer posting here. That, combined with my desire to keep my promise about running the mock this year, caused me to suspend my decision to quit the ROD even though I've already stopped rooting for the Rams. As I said before, I'm still willing to talk football here and I'm not going to be dissing my former team but that doesn't include not dissing Stan. If you have problems with that and you're willing to take over the mock I'll make this my last post. PM me with your decision.

As for your other comments, I'm sure that "Now he is supposed to be stupid with his money...?" sentiment is why companies decide to close their manufacturing plants in the US and have their products made in third world countries even if they have no competitive reason to do so. I'm sure it makes their shareholders very happy. Why should you give back something to the country that made your success possible? Why do your best to ensure that the players who are making you shit loads of money are compensated fairly if you can gain an edge over someone who might later commit suicide due to CTE issues or suffer from other major health problems? I'm sure Trump trying to use eminent domain to take an elderly widow's home from her to build a parking lot for his casino made good business sense too.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ne13Zft9Q

 

[kurtfaulk]

I'm sure Trump trying to use eminent domain to take an elderly widow's home from her to build a parking lot for his casino made good business sense too.

It's good business sense for the widow as well. She will get double or triple what her land is worth. Let's not make out like she's getting thrown out on the street.

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[-X-]

That is their rationale? I think it is obvious that the Rams will be working out of the state of California. The key here is WILL BE. However, if they are not yet LEGALLY a CA company or have their offices, training facilities, etc. operating in CA yet, they would still be a MO company until those things occur

It's not easy to find out what name they're operating under, but as of the end of the last fiscal year (2015), and according to Bloomberg.com, the name is still St. Louis Rams, LLC. Key executives are Snead, Demoff and Fisher. There's also The Rams Football Company Inc, and they operate out of the same office as St Louis Rams LLC (One Rams Way, St Louis MO). So it doesn't appear as though they've established a headquarters in CA yet. And if that's the case; then again, this whole thing is a non-issue.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Florio is wasted on the nfl. He needs to use his powers against multinationals like apple and force them to pay tax on all that money they make from unsuspecting consumers duped into burying their horrible products.

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[RamFan503]

As for your other comments, I'm sure that "Now he is supposed to be stupid with his money...?" sentiment is why companies decide to close their manufacturing plants in the US and have their products made in third world countries even if they have no competitive reason to do so. I'm sure it makes their shareholders very happy. Why should you give back something to the country that made your success possible? Why do your best to ensure that the players who are making you crap loads of money are compensated fairly if you can gain an edge over someone who might later commit suicide due to CTE issues or suffer from other major health problems? I'm sure Trump trying to use eminent domain to take an elderly widow's home from her to build a parking lot for his casino made good business sense too.

I'm sure somehow you see a correlation there. I don't. I'm not even sure what you consider "no competitive reason". You mean because they have no competitors? Are you saying it because you feel Stan had no competitive reason to do what he did? Maybe that Stan did what no other owner in the same situation would have done?

The idea that Stan is taking advantage of these poor players by leaving some language in the contract that neither you nor I nor that idiot Florio nor honestly the NFLPA can say would be damaging to the players is just searching for a problem or trying to perpetuate the Stan hate.

It doesn't much matter - there isn't always an evil to be righted just because someone lost or doesn't have the full story.

I will PM you on the other.

 

[RamFan503]

consumers duped into burying their horrible products.

Freudian slip?

 

[fearsomefour]

Snead nor Fisher have anything to do with contracts. That is all up to Demoff and another guy (can't remember his name) to negotiate, draw up and execute.
Snead is the talent finder and Fisher coaches. Demoff is the negotiator and Kroenke is the bank roller.

I know.
I was irritated by this story for some reason....cant even tell you why.
Doesn't appear it is a big deal. I shan't post pre coffee anymore.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Freudian slip?

I wish. But I'm not that smart. Thank you auto correct.

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[ReddingRam]

I know.
I was irritated by this story for some reason....cant even tell you why.
Doesn't appear it is a big deal. I shan't post pre coffee anymore.

Oh it did me too .. .then I realized it's just "reporting" lol