NFL signs new TV Deal; The Rams could get a Bailout

[fearsomefour]

For players signing long term deals this year? SUCKERS.

Short of the few who got big deals, the rest should take the 1 year deals because the deals handed out next year are gonna be OBNOXIOUS...

You are seeing a fair amount of that....one year deals for vets.

 

[fearsomefour]

I get a kick out of the doom and gloomers. Its funny how many cap experts there are in fan ranks. Snead said he easily could restructure to get enough money to sign the free agents that they wanted to. He wasn't worried, while most fans figured there is no way they sign an except for a first round tender on DWill. They have a lot of dead money coming off the cap next year, plus the cap will go up. This is how it works for teams that play it close to the cap each year. It always makes fans nervous.

The Rams have sort of let us know where they are likely going to let guys go with their drafting.
Several S came on board when it was not a position of need.
Joyner and Johnson moved on to greener pastures but it’s not a crisis because of the draft plan.
Everett moved on.
The Rams have two TEs they like under contract and a third that was elevated to game day late last year.
I would not be surprised to see another TE drafted this year.
Drafting not panicking.
If the Rams feel (level of play vs salary) that Blythe is a better value at say $4M a year than a FA at $6M they will resign Blythe.....and likely look to draft his replacement.
I get irritated as well by the lack of FA activity as much as many other fans and I hate to see Rams players move on. But, this approach is much better than way over paying for free agents. Is Hill worth the $6M a year the Browns are going to pay him? Probably is.
I hate to see him leave.
He came up as a Ram and fought his way to be a very good contributor to the team and a very solid player.
Is the D going to miss him in a major way? Probably not.
The team has a couple of guys to fill his spot.

 

[Tano]

One question I have about this is who is going to stream Sunday games.

I see Amazon has Thursday night but Sunday?

I see Direct TV is out - GOOD (at least I see nothing in the above about Direct TV so I am assuming they are out - please tell me I am not wrong or I will cry - Direct TV sucks)

 

[Tano]

One other thing - anyone see a $100 M a year QB in the foreseeable future

 

[dieterbrock]

Honestly that has nothing to do with this years cap. The current years cap is based on the previous years league revenue. Total revenue. When the revenue goes up next year with more fans then the cap will go up. When the league collects revenue from these new tv deals the cap will go up. I get it they're rich people are told to hate them. But they did nothing wrong in this the cap went down completely by the revenue loss from covid and it did so based 100% on the CBA the players agreed to. And when revenue goes back up the players will get their share of the increases just like they shared in the losses this year. That's the nature of the CBA.

The last CBA was all about making the players partners with the owners. Partnership means you share in the profits and share in the losses. It cant just be sharing in the good.
I'm not crying poverty for the owners here, but isnt stadium revenue kept seperate? That owners kept the revenue from all non-football related event revenues? I know there were so many back and forths but I feel like that was the big win for the owners, which turned out to be a huge loss this year if so. A loss that wouldnt be calculated in the salary cap

 

[dieterbrock]

One question I have about this is who is going to stream Sunday games.

I see Amazon has Thursday night but Sunday?

I see Direct TV is out - GOOD (at least I see nothing in the above about Direct TV so I am assuming they are out - please tell me I am not wrong or I will cry - Direct TV sucks)

I really hope ESPN+ doesnt get the Sunday Ticket deal, but they appear to be the leader in the clubhouse. Still, Direct TV will still have the Ticket in 2021 and likely 2022
And yes, to watch Thursday night games, you will have to stream with Amazon Prime

 

[Tano]

I really hope ESPN+ doesnt get the Sunday Ticket deal, but they appear to be the leader in the clubhouse. Still, Direct TV will still have the Ticket in 2021 and likely 2022
And yes, to watch Thursday night games, you will have to stream with Amazon Prime

MY wife has MS so she mostly just watches TV so I get a lot of channels. Amazon Prime is one of them so that's ok with me.

I would have rather Amazon Prime got Sunday Ticket too but then again they could have charged a good chunk of change for it.

 

[Psycho_X]

I see Direct TV is out - GOOD (at least I see nothing in the above about Direct TV so I am assuming they are out - please tell me I am not wrong or I will cry - Direct TV sucks)

Agreed, have been waiting for this final nail in the coffin for DTV. NFL will leave them and than AT&T will sell their DTV assets to Dish Network probably who will be able to stay somewhat relevant due to rural areas needing some kind of choice. As long as whoever has the NFL games has the ability to pay and cancel at will online without going through god awful customer service bullshit I'll be happy to pay. IF not I'll just keep doing NFL gamepass with a vpn to watch live games for a third the price of sunday ticket.

 

[dieterbrock]

MY wife has MS so she mostly just watches TV so I get a lot of channels. Amazon Prime is one of them so that's ok with me.

I would have rather Amazon Prime got Sunday Ticket too but then again they could have charged a good chunk of change for it.

I think ESPN is equipped for it much more than Amazon, but I hate ESPN and that alone makes me not want them to "win". So I'm assuming you have a smart TV if Amazon Prime is one of your channels?

 

[OldSchool]

The last CBA was all about making the players partners with the owners. Partnership means you share in the profits and share in the losses. It cant just be sharing in the good.
I'm not crying poverty for the owners here, but isnt stadium revenue kept seperate? That owners kept the revenue from all non-football related event revenues? I know there were so many back and forths but I feel like that was the big win for the owners, which turned out to be a huge loss this year if so. A loss that wouldnt be calculated in the salary cap

It's some of everything. It also includes veteran benefits so retired players insurance and anything they get from the league comes out of it as well.

An introductory guide to the NFL’s salary cap - LawInSport

With the National Football League (NFL) Free Agency period beginning this week and the College Draft around the corner, a good basic understanding of the NFL’s salary cap rules will enrich any analysis of a team's roster decisions at this intriguing time of the year. This article provides an...

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The provisions relating to the calculation of the salary cap at Article 12 CBA7 are extensive and complex. It is beyond the scope of this article to explain them in depth, but it is worth briefly summarizing them to indicate where the salary cap figure comes from and what it relates to.

The NFL salary cap is calculated by reference to projected annual League and club revenues foreach league year, defined as "All Revenues", or “AR”. Details of how this figure is calculated are set out in Article 12 CBA. In summary, it can be broken down into three categories:

• League Media AR e.g. television rights sold nationally for entire for entire NFL games and internationally for live and delayed games; radio revenues; Copyright Royalty Tribunal revenues.
• NFL Ventures/Postseason AR e.g. revenues arising from the operation of postseason games to be received by the NFL and NFL-affiliates such as NFL Network, and revenues arising from the operation of NFL-affiliated entities such as NFL Network.
• Local AR e.g. all revenues to be received by Clubs or Club affiliates not included in either category above, including the sale or license of preseason television rights

These figures are combined to make total AR. Once the total AR figure is calculated, a percentage of it is set as the "Player Cost Amount", which is the total allowable expenditure on player salary and player benefits across the league. The amount for player benefits is deducted and divided equally among the 32 teams, leaving the total salary cap which is also divided equally among the teams.

 

[OldSchool]

Just goes to show, as I’ve always said, how little the cap and earnings have to do with fans in the seats.
That is the last consideration for earnings.

It's a part of the formula but not the major one though the fans still pay it all in the end. I always wonder why people will jump to the side of owners or players and forget it's they the fans who fund millionaires and billionaires at their own growing expense.

 

[OldSchool]

I get it man but it didn't need to done that way. The cba didn't forecast a global pandemic. It was hammered out before the pandemic took hold.

.

Yes actually it had to be done that way. These two sides can't agree what color the football is. And if one side doesn't hold up to the letter of the agreement the world would end in the other sides eyes. And if one side did the other a favor in any way there would be no reciprocation just animosity. Most thought they would agree to spread the losses over a couple of year better than they did but expecting them to agree on anything is opening yourself up to disappointment. Both sides are greedy assholes.

 

[Angry Ram]

Well I, for one, am HYPE. I'm so glad I cut cable now.

CBS, FOX, ABC, NBC = free DTV.

Amazon Prime = full games for $15/month plus all the other stuff I use it for? Hell yeah.

MNF games on ESPN+? = I'll gladly cough up $6/month for that.

The worst case is I'll have to pony up some cash for streaming cable. Oh what's that? Sling only cost $40/month? For 4 months, OK. I can live with that.

I always wonder why people will jump to the side of owners or players and forget it's they the fans who fund millionaires and billionaires at their own growing expense.

Well I can't speak for everyone. For me it's simple: I don't care. It's my choice where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it on NFL and in return I get football. One of the few things I actually truly enjoy.

Granted, I'm a cheap ass so my expenses aren't as much as say a season ticket holder. But I'm not gonna fret how much more money Stan gets if I chose to attend a game or buy a jersey or whatever. If people really felt what you're implying, no one would watch and NFL continues to be a juggernaut. So I don't think fans really care about finance that much on Sundays, either.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Well I, for one, am HYPE. I'm so glad I cut cable now.

CBS, FOX, ABC, NBC = free DTV.

Amazon Prime = full games for $15/month plus all the other stuff I use it for? Hell yeah.

MNF games on ESPN+? = I'll gladly cough up $6/month for that.

The worst case is I'll have to pony up some cash for streaming cable. Oh what's that? Sling only cost $40/month? For 4 months, OK. I can live with that.



Well I can't speak for everyone. For me it's simple: I don't care. It's my choice where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it on NFL and in return I get football. One of the few things I actually truly enjoy.

Granted, I'm a cheap ass so my expenses aren't as much as say a season ticket holder. But I'm not gonna fret how much more money Stan gets if I chose to attend a game or buy a jersey or whatever. If people really felt what you're implying, no one would watch and NFL continues to be a juggernaut. So I don't think fans really care about finance that much on Sundays, either.

Yeah that’s a good deal. If you search streaming you may get all major networks and ESPN on one. That is how Hulu with live tv was this fall. $55 a month and I cancelled after the Super Bowl

 

[fearsomefour]

It's a part of the formula but not the major one though the fans still pay it all in the end. I always wonder why people will jump to the side of owners or players and forget it's they the fans who fund millionaires and billionaires at their own growing expense.

I don’t think anyone forgets.
Ones expense can range from extreme to basically nothing.
I only side with the players because they are ones with the short career and injuries.
Everyone is making money.
Good on them.

 

[Tano]

I think ESPN is equipped for it much more than Amazon, but I hate ESPN and that alone makes me not want them to "win". So I'm assuming you have a smart TV if Amazon Prime is one of your channels?

Oh yeah - decent size Smart TV in the Bed Room and a 70 inch Smart TV in the Living Room

I stream the Rams games on both TVs by connecting our computers to the TV

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1374013235578429446?s=21



View: https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1374011600617738240?s=21

 

[Loyal]

For players signing long term deals this year? SUCKERS.

Short of the few who got big deals, the rest should take the 1 year deals because the deals handed out next year are gonna be OBNOXIOUS...

RIDONCULOUS!

 

[oldnotdead]

This is not a huge surprise. It's been talked about for months in financial circles. Jerry Jones wanted to wait until he had clarity on cap numbers before he signed Dak. It's why I posted about the cap potentially being as much as $190M. The only reason it's not is that the owners wanted to pocket that differential to compensate themselves for the lost 2020 revenue.

Hey if the networks are willing to pay that kind of money who cares? It's money grubbing networks vs money grubbing NFL owners...yawn.

Also, do you really think the players are worth what they are being paid? Where else can you work 8 months or so and be set for the rest of your life if you simply have a good financial plan? Personally, I'm not sad for any of the three groups.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Well I, for one, am HYPE. I'm so glad I cut cable now.

CBS, FOX, ABC, NBC = free DTV.

Amazon Prime = full games for $15/month plus all the other stuff I use it for? Hell yeah.

MNF games on ESPN+? = I'll gladly cough up $6/month for that.

The worst case is I'll have to pony up some cash for streaming cable. Oh what's that? Sling only cost $40/month? For 4 months, OK. I can live with that.



Well I can't speak for everyone. For me it's simple: I don't care. It's my choice where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it on NFL and in return I get football. One of the few things I actually truly enjoy.

Granted, I'm a cheap ass so my expenses aren't as much as say a season ticket holder. But I'm not gonna fret how much more money Stan gets if I chose to attend a game or buy a jersey or whatever. If people really felt what you're implying, no one would watch and NFL continues to be a juggernaut. So I don't think fans really care about finance that much on Sundays, either.

Football = Cocaine for the masses, owners are the cartel kingpins. Now, someone please load my bong.