Ndamukong Suh fined $100,000, not suspended
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EastRam said:
Completely different. Linemen are engaged at the get go and are keying in on the other guy man on man. The QB generally has his eyes down field and is upright. He is not in a position nor trained to take on an opponent mano a mano. "Cut blocks" have always been legal as long as the person being blocked was not engaged by another or of it was from the side or back. I believe it is also illegal to do so down field.
Well I'm glad we've had this discussion,I agree Suh didn't have to make that "block" but had he just shoved the guy,from behind they'd have called that a clip.
Ardunno , sometimes I sit and think I've lived to long sometimes I just sit.
Ardunno , sometimes I sit and think I've lived to long sometimes I just sit.
Lol, Ok, so if he would have shoved him it would be a clip, but it's OK to dive at his knee from behind??? :what:Thordaddy said:
Suh was wrong, and got fined for it. With his history of violence in the league, he's lucky they left it at that.
Do you really have a leather helmet, that would be so cool. My dad and grandpappy both wore them.
DR RAM said:
Yeah - I agree. I think the most glaring aspect is that the "block" did nothing FOR his team besides maybe injuring an opposing player. Worse yet, the dipshit put his own desire to be an A-hole above the interests of his TEAM. 7 points negated by selfish dirty play.
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Hah! I'm right there with you except I always think that others haven't lived long enough. :ww:
See that's the thing about Suh , his reputation , I've seen the things he's been MOST vilified FOR and to me a lot of it isn't ALL THAT unique considering what I've seen over the years. I really think and I truly believe this ,if Suh played for the Jets he'd be a hero for the way he plays, maybe not HERE but in the NY press he would and FWIW they wag the dog.DR RAM said:
No I don't have a leather helmet, but I did,my first "hard" helmet had no face mask, my second a single bar like kickers use to wear it wasn't until my 4th that I actually had a real face mask capable of any protection.
As for the "cut blocks " East was lamenting, Alex Gibbs produced o-lines were masters of that.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to defend Suh ,just add some moderate perspective,I'm sure I'm wrong, but it's never stopped me in the past :huh:
It's a good discussion. I think he has earned his dirty player label. When he stomped on the GB lineman, and then said he didn't do it...I lost all respect for the guy, because THAT has nothing to do with football, THAT is being a thug, intent on hurting people, no honor, no respect, IMO.Thordaddy said:
I only enjoy the lamenting of my opponents women....
Iron Lion said:
It wasn't from behind. It was in front. Last year it would have been legal. New rule. Did you even see it?[/quote
Who cares, you really can defend suh. Everyone loses their cool but suh is just plain dirty.
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That wouldn't be correct Sgt.Ram. It has been illegal to do that kind of thing to a player when the play has already passed them by for many years. Rightfully so. As Eastram said, you should read our thread where we talk about Finnegans action's before you make comments that don't reflect our real views or the truth. You can't write a book report if you only read the last chapter. Plus check out my reply in the other thread you posted in.
We all try to rationalize bad behavior by our own players to some extent but you're at the wrong forum if you think we're just homers here. :ww:
Point taken Rusty Kitty, it truly does depend on whose ox is getting gored , but Finnegan's PF were in the process of making a tackle that needed to be made and it was ASSUMED he KNEW he was OOB, which I think you'd probably agree the same action had they been in the field of play wouldn't be a foul.Iron Lion said:
I have argued..............er discussed this from the ,this didn't use to be a foul angle so I feal ya but Suh IMO suffers a little from the fact that he is SUCH a physical phenom he's expected to be a gentle giant whereas Finnegan is considered feisty.
In the end I lament the "chickification" of this game but I don't like seeing certain things done that have little point except to grievously injure an opponent , Suh didn't need to do anything and as I understand it was flagged and ya'll lost a touchdown so I'm a bit mystified why you aren't gleefully joining in this feeding frenzy.
Suh also gets the biz here because we were a fan base divided about whether to draft him or Bradford ,it was a truly tumultuous time on Rams message boards ,I was on the draft Suh bandwagon but today am glad things turned out the way they did BECAUSE we might have drafted Colt McCoy or some lesser guy and not had a guy who can make EVERY throw ,is pretty good with ball security and given the weapons ( doesn't Cook remind you of Megatron?) will get them the ball and not over play the game to the extent he hurts his team ( which I think your guy does at times). We also might not have Mike Brockers who I think if he stays healthy is going to challenge for a pro bowl and I'd wager a Krispy Kreme is voted to more pro bowls over his career than Ndummy.
ANAWAY it's good to hear fum ya , how is school goin'?
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I was blasted for this on other forums in the past but I still believe that Suh is just not very intelligent or he lacks common sense. Regardless of his academic achievements and parenting, he continues to make the same mistakes over and over again.