BREAKING NEWS !! Myles Garrett to the Rams / Verse to the Browns
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A bust that led the entire NFL in QB pressures his first 2 years in the league. Okay.
Obviously Verse had his faults in not finishing plays or developing more of a pass rush skillset but his no.1 job was affecting the QB and he did it very, very well. Probably a top 10 edge rusher in the league already.
But no, he will never be Myles Garrett who is an alien and probably the best football player in the league.
..and the beat goes on!!
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Post presser interview @ 44:35
There's some delay/lag on the comms. He's a Godzilla guy and a Dungeons and Dragons guy and one of his D&D guys lives in LA.
There's some delay/lag on the comms. He's a Godzilla guy and a Dungeons and Dragons guy and one of his D&D guys lives in LA.
I have the utmost appreciation and respect for Sean. Sincere gratitude. I finally realized, after years of watching him, what sets him apart; the dude rarely blinks. Yes, he has to have the most naturally moisturized eyes in history. Just watch how frequently Myles blinks while keeping an eye on Sean. Myles- typical. Sean- different planet. It's unbelievable. I tried following along with Sean and couldn't do it!
One more reason why Sean is like no other
I think your right, I wonder if it's tied to certain performance clauses? like leading the league in sack? I'm sure will find out soon enough.I seem to remember a rule change that you couldn't do that anymore. You have to have the pick to make it conditional IIRC but as always can and will be wrong on stuff
I'm not sure about the running part, but there will be more 13 than 11.I gave up on it. We’re going run a lot the Davis Allen clone personnel packages this year.
I’ll trust and have faith until gamedays answer my questions.
Yeah the performance or possible even an extension maybe? That seems possible to me or it could be tied to Jared to honestly.
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Sorry man, you're definition of bust is way the hell off. Guess DPOY and being an all pro twice means nothing. Yes we got a great HOF player but essentially saying this dude is almost a bust yet Cleveland would only do the deal if Verse was included tells me all I need to know. Young is good but Verse was barely scratching the surface. Only reason the Rams made the trade was because they want to win right now. Verse will be a good one in the future but Garrett is already a HOF in his prime.
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I don't disagree about the gap being there at all. If Verse learns to finish those pressures, that gap will shorten tremendously. I truly believe Verse cares enough and is talented enough to improve. Unfortunately for him, the Rams want to win now and Garrett is the much better player right now.
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El Chapo Jr
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Agree with everything you are saying but saying he'll never be at Garrett's level this early in his career is not something I would buy. He's got time to get there, but whether he gets there or not will be interesting to watch over the years. As of right now, Garrett is the top dog of pass rushing DEs.
I'd call him a fuckin nerd but wouldn't want to get my ass kicked.
yea I did a little digging__
"Myles Garrett has never played as a 3‑4 outside linebacker in the NFL.
Throughout his career with the Cleveland Browns and now the Los Angeles Rams, Garrett has been listed and played exclusively as a defensive end (DE). His NFL profile and game logs show he has never been assigned to the 3‑4 OLB position Wikipedia+1.
In the 3‑4 scheme, the outside linebackers are typically smaller, more versatile players who can drop into coverage or rush the passer, while the defensive ends are larger, more pass‑rushing specialists. Garrett’s size (6'4", 272 lbs) and pass‑rushing dominance fit the DE role, not the OLB role in a 3‑4 defense.
Even in the Browns’ 4‑3 system, he has been deployed as a DE, not an OLB. His sack totals and pass‑rushing stats are consistent with that position, and there is no record of him playing OLB in any NFL game."
Maybe Fritz Shurmur has been Visiting Chris Shulas dreams and divised some sort of
Eagle Defense part 2. reversed.
This was a mid 1980's brilliant defense and maybe the birth of the zone blitz.
Fritz was forced to create the Eagle Defense because the team was so depleted of dlineman.
It made Kevin Greene a household name.
Not sure of the plan but I know there is one.
We play more of a 3-4 hybrid nickel and rush 4 or 5. We have the personnel to transition to a 4-3, but here’s no need since because of the hybridization and the exact same rush philosophy with paired stunts and whatnot as a traditional 4-3, it’s just a matter of assignment. I would expect that they’ll move Garrett around and drop others.
I’m pretty sure no team will be able to scheme around somehow getting Garrett being forced to drop into coverage. Has t happened in 9 years, it won’t happen now.
It's a never for me.
For one, Garrett is just physically built different. Remember that video of Verse getting embarrassingly outworked by a 34 year old retired AD? It's all in good fun and Verse is a physical freak in his own right but Garrett is in that AD tier of athlete, those guys are just in their own tier all alone.
For two, I don't want to kick Verse on his way out but it's well known he's just a one trick pony at this point with the bull rush. We heard all offseason he was building off of that and then? Back to the one trick. Meanwhile Garrett can rip, dip, bend, speed, bull, spin, and even has his own signature euro step. He's had a complete pass rush skill set since before he was Verse's age and he uses each move at or near the best in the league.
And finally, Garrett can finish the damn play. Garrett has less missed tackles in 9 seasons with 33 than Verse has in 2 seasons with 39 missed tackles. That is... insane.
Garrett isn't just today's "top dog" of edge rushers, he's one of the all time greatest defensive players in NFL history. Verse is very, very good and likely a top 10 edge for a long time but saying that he can be as good as Garrett is like saying that Kobie Turner can be as good as Aaron Donald or Alaric Jackson can be as good as Orlando Pace.
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His eye contact is unusual and respectful of everyone. He’s a special guy for sure.I have the utmost appreciation and respect for Sean. Sincere gratitude. I finally realized, after years of watching him, what sets him apart; the dude rarely blinks. Yes, he has to have the most naturally moisturized eyes in history. Just watch how frequently Myles blinks while keeping an eye on Sean. Myles- typical. Sean- different planet. It's unbelievable. I tried following along with Sean and couldn't do it!
One more reason why Sean is like no other
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Sorry but your statement to me is weird 2 years into Verse's career. Saying never is premature when all he's done is win DPOY and gone all pro twice. The makeup is there but there is zero guarantee of whether or not he'll reach Garrett's level or not. Here's their 1st 2 years in the NFL in comparison, crazy how close they are minus the sacks. Those numbers would be much closer if Verse finished some of those missed sacks we have all seen. He's a young kid, acting like he doesn't have a chance to get better is crazy talk.
Just quoting the bulk stats doesn't counter any of my points, especially when Verse entered the league 2 years older. But if you want to follow that line, yeah 20.5 sacks in 27 games is a massive gap from 12 sacks in 34 games early in their career.
That's one player averaging 13 sacks over a full season and the other player averaging 6. Huge difference.
At this point in his career at the age of 25 with the amount of playing time he's had his first two seasons we kind of know what type of player Verse is and he is very good. However his improvements will be incremental and the transformation into a Garrett kind of talent just isn't realistically possible. But you know what, I'll play the semantics game of never say never and give it a .5% chance of happening.