My only issue with our draft

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My only issue is that I always want at least one big nasty DL added with the hopes of finding a young disruptive player. Never can have enough of those guys.

I understand that they are looking at Brown as being that guy this yr since he was another Snead redshirt. Amazing how they do that every year like they did with these secondary guys in this draft. Drafting with the longview in mind.

Could this be your next developmental interior defensive lineman and immediate competition for Hoecht, UDFA incumbent Elijah Garcia ? I don't know much about the guy, but there is this :

Strengths​

  • Combines strength and footwork to fill holes inside, as well. Recovers from cut blocks or falling on his way to make a tackle.
  • Played with good leverage, even on the nose, despite average bulk. Hustle defender with a good bull rush inside that can close and get home when quarterbacks leave the pocket.
  • Quarterbacks and ballcarriers feel his strength when he plants them in the backfield.
  • Can make the impressive chest-to-chest bear hug tackle in the hole due to his ability to wreak havoc in the backfield.
  • Strength gives ends a chance to twist inside and linebackers free lane to the passer on blitzes.

Weaknesses​

  • Average athletically with average straight line speed and tight hips. Not a natural bender. Lacks secondary pass-rush moves.
  • He struggles with leverage off the snap and plays too tall, limiting his effectiveness as a pass rusher.
  • Plays upright and struggles with leverage. Too often stonewalled at the line and doesn't show the hand strength or technique to shed or redirect blockers.
  • Plays too high at times, and gets carried downfield or put to the ground by better lineman when losing the leverage battle.
  • Doesn't play fundamentally sound and lacks much technique in his repertoire.
And this :

 

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C'mon man don't parse it. He's been in the league 6 years. He's had one blocked in each of his first 5 years. That's a lot. His distance is inconsistent as well. A punter is a weapon every bit as much as a kicker. wait until he shanks one and gives up field position and yes McVay does play the field position game, all coaches do.
Incorrect. He had none blocked his rookie year; 2 blocked in year two, 0 in year three, 2 in year four, 1 in year 5 and none in year 6. So, the last 2 years he's had 1 of 139 punts blocked. Funny but the year previous to Dixon joining the Giants, they had 2 punts blocked plus they gave up a PR TD. Punter, punt coverage or punt protection?

You want to "parse" things by saying, "he's had 5 punts blocked in 6 years, he sucks!!!". Whenever I see a punt blocked in the NFL, it's often somebody coming free up the middle. Not 100% of the time but more times than not. A lot more.

His distance? He's been upper half in gross average 4 of 6 years among punters with 48 punts. He's been #12, #5, #9 the last 3 years for punts inside the 20. And isn't it basic math, if you are top 12 in punting inside the 20, you're gross average is going to suffer? He's punted 208 times the last 3 years and has 81 inside the 20. You sound like the guy has a club foot or something. What is it? You wanted the Rams to draft a punter in the 4th round and since they didn't, you're pissed?
 

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Could this be your next developmental interior defensive lineman and immediate competition for Hoecht, UDFA incumbent Elijah Garcia ? I don't know much about the guy, but there is this :

Strengths​

  • Combines strength and footwork to fill holes inside, as well. Recovers from cut blocks or falling on his way to make a tackle.
  • Played with good leverage, even on the nose, despite average bulk. Hustle defender with a good bull rush inside that can close and get home when quarterbacks leave the pocket.
  • Quarterbacks and ballcarriers feel his strength when he plants them in the backfield.
  • Can make the impressive chest-to-chest bear hug tackle in the hole due to his ability to wreak havoc in the backfield.
  • Strength gives ends a chance to twist inside and linebackers free lane to the passer on blitzes.

Weaknesses​

  • Average athletically with average straight line speed and tight hips. Not a natural bender. Lacks secondary pass-rush moves.
  • He struggles with leverage off the snap and plays too tall, limiting his effectiveness as a pass rusher.
  • Plays upright and struggles with leverage. Too often stonewalled at the line and doesn't show the hand strength or technique to shed or redirect blockers.
  • Plays too high at times, and gets carried downfield or put to the ground by better lineman when losing the leverage battle.
  • Doesn't play fundamentally sound and lacks much technique in his repertoire.
And this :

Yeah, I was watching his video and mentioned in another post that he looked interesting.
 

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Banish Bobby Evans ye say? Has thee forgotten the story of one Brian Allen? Brought forth unto the NFL bosom too soon, only to find the shining light of worthyness among men.

Shakest thy head. Learned some of you may have not.
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I really like this draft.
I think the team got great value with Williams and Kendrick for where they were drafted.
I think the Rams landed a starting RG and guys at RB, CB and S that are going to contribute beyond ST.
Add in the trading for Hill and the draft grade goes up.
Really well done in my opinion.
 

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I think blue chip Punters are more valuable on bad teams(bad offenses).
I remember when Hekker was one of the most valuable players on the team. Those were not good times. This team seeks to make their punter irrelevan. I like the new way of thinking.
 

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I do go back and forth on this admittedly, depending on who it is and what position we're talking about. But overall I do think allowing these guys to compete to be the best 5 is the key. I think that gives you the most chances for the most player improvement.

For example if you tell Jackson "we're putting your ass in bubble wrap because you're our backup LT" and line him up in camp with second team LT will that give you as much growth in his game as telling him "we're giving you a chance to start at OG while you backup the LT position." I don't think so.

Is it riskier? Yes it is. So it might be a player by player and even positional decision on who you do that with, but again in general the more you do that the more competition you get which should translate into the most improvement. I'd certainly love to hear Carberry asked that question, his answer would be enlightening I'm sure.
I often wonder if getting a decent comp pick for a guy is incentive enough to give him the edge in a competition.
At 6'7" I don't see Jackson as an ideal OG, ... if we want him as a swing player then I'd prefer him roaming between LT and RT. Edwards is 6'6", I don't particularly like him at OG either and would prefer to see what he can do at RT, but he came in during an emergency and has managed to carve out a niche for himself, even if he's regarded as the weakest link on the OL. jmo.
I’d like to see Edwards compete with Noteboom and Jackson at OLT. I believe in open competition on the Oline every year. I didn’t mention ORT because I don’t think any of them could unseat Havenstein.
 

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I’d like to see Edwards compete with Noteboom and Jackson at OLT. I believe in open competition on the Oline every year. I didn’t mention ORT because I don’t think any of them could unseat Havenstein.

I don't believe any of our starting OT's can be unseated by Edwards at the moment, but Jackson was a college LT while Edwards was a RT, and while Noteboom/Jackson are signed for awhile, Havenstein becomes eligible for free agency following this season.
 

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I have already posted & predicted several months back that Bobby Evans would not make the 2022 regular-season roster if he was once again contending for any of the 3 interior OL posts.

Well the hardest thing I’ve noticed is predicting how many offensive lineman The Rams will keep on the 53 man roster. I’ve tried to predict & then The Rams go the opposite.

Last year it was like 9 or 10. 2018 & 2019 it was like 7 or 8?

Brewer & Evans will both get cut then.Way to early to tell though.4 months to go,this party is just getting started.
 

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I don't believe any of our starting OT's can be unseated by Edwards at the moment, but Jackson was a college LT while Edwards was a RT, and while Noteboom/Jackson are signed for awhile, Havenstein becomes eligible for free agency following this season.

You won’t see it in the preseason though.There’s no way David Edwards is playing LT live unless in a regular season game.
 

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No way Edwards is playing LT in ANY game.

Cameron DaSilva - Dec 26, 2021

The Rams were forced to shuffle their offensive line again on Sunday after Andrew Whitworth and Joe Noteboom both landed on the COVID-19 list ahead of their game against the Vikings. That left them without their top two options at left tackle, which led to a change at two different positions.

The Rams moved David Edwards from left guard to left tackle, and inserted Coleman Shelton at left guard in his place. Edwards played tackle in college at Wisconsin, so it’s not an unfamiliar position for him.
 

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Edwards play in that game after he was moved to LT is why he will never play LT for the Rams again. He was horrible. And if I recall rightly, he was moved back to LG and put in Aleric Jackson at LT before the game ended.
 

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Edwards play in that game after he was moved to LT is why he will never play LT for the Rams again. He was horrible. And if I recall rightly, he was moved back to LG and put in Aleric Jackson at LT before the game ended.
Allen went-down with an injury late in the first quarter, which required Shelton to move from LG-to-Center. That sent Edwards back to LG, with Jackson coming-in at LT.
 

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I actually like Cameron Dicker to get the spot over Riley Dixon. He's younger, and he has a lot of potential as both a punter and a kickoff specialist; he can really boot the ball.
I concur I believe Dicker has a legitimate shot. Be interesting to see if that transpires, who the holder will be? Dicker being a kicker, has not held, doesn't mean he can't do that, but does not have the experience that Dixon has had in that area.
 

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Edwards play in that game after he was moved to LT is why he will never play LT for the Rams again. He was horrible. And if I recall rightly, he was moved back to LG and put in Aleric Jackson at LT before the game ended.
I don't believe that was because Edwards was ineffective, it was because Brian Allen got hurt, which moved Coleman Shelton from LG, to center and thus Edwards back to LG to put Jackson at LT, where Jackson is far more comfortable.
 

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I don't believe any of our starting OT's can be unseated by Edwards at the moment, but Jackson was a college LT while Edwards was a RT, and while Noteboom/Jackson are signed for awhile, Havenstein becomes eligible for free agency following this season.
Edwards play in that game after he was moved to LT is why he will never play LT for the Rams again. He was horrible. And if I recall rightly, he was moved back to LG and put in Aleric Jackson at LT.
OL Coach Carberry's OL unit is congested & clogged full of NFL prototype-sized OT 's & very skinny on OG's.

Snead continues to bring in college OT's by drafting, signing, or trading & then working them into endeavors to serve as a starting OG .i.e ......Bobby Evans, Joe Noteboom, David Edwards, Austin Corbett, Jamil Demby, Andrew Donnel, Jamon Brown, Tremayne Anchrum & now RT Logan Bruss.

I would think that Carberry will once again need the well-experienced NFL OG David Edwards to start @ OG, significantly since there will be a new starter in this 2022 OL'er @ RG. In addition, this will be Joseph Noteboom's "first-time event" being the named starting @ LT. Would not the 2022 OL continuity be of paramount importance going into TC?

When Edwards is given his "2022 Post Orders" to follow for mini camps/Training Camp & preseason I do not think there will be mention of taking snaps @ the OT posts. Just jammed full on how to improve his run blocking skills @ the LG post.
 

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I would think that Carberry will once again need the well-experienced NFL OG David Edwards to start @ OG, significantly since there will be a new starter in this 2022 OL'er @ RG. In addition, this will be Joseph Noteboom's "first-time event" being the named starting @ LT. Would not the 2022 OL continuity be of paramount importance going into TC?

When Edwards is given his "2022 Post Orders" to follow for mini camps/Training Camp & preseason I do not think there will be mention of taking snaps @ the OT posts. Just jammed full on how to improve his run blocking skills @ the LG post.
IMO, Bruss is much better suited for Guard then tackle and 6'5 310lbs is not bad I also believe the reason that Snead prefers that prototype is because they pass block better. It's easier to teach someone to run block, but pass blocking is more of an art.

Now I believe Bruss is more of a natural guard than Edwards so I believe he'll fit well at RG and even offer more in the run game then Corbett did. However, again, I can't disagree with the success because the goal is to keep #9 clean and with the addition of Bruss at RG and only giving up one sack outside, should make his adjustment to the next level, that much easier IMHO.
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I concur I believe Dicker has a legitimate shot. Be interesting to see if that transpires, who the holder will be? Dicker being a kicker, has not held, doesn't mean he can't do that, but does not have the experience that Dixon has had in that area.
So Gay at K, Dicker at P.....why oh why could Wang not long snap?
 

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IMO, Bruss is much better suited for Guard then tackle and 6'5 310lbs is not bad I also believe the reason that Snead prefers that prototype is because they pass block better. It's easier to teach someone to run block, but pass blocking is more of an art.

Now I believe Bruss is more of a natural guard than Edwards so I believe he'll fit well at RG and even offer more in the run game then Corbett did. However, again, I can't disagree with the success because the goal is to keep #9 clean and with the addition of Bruss at RG and only giving up one sack outside, should make his adjustment to the next level, that much easier IMHO.
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From a friend of mine who does some college scouting on Bruss.....

"Bruss is an athletic lineman. Projects as a G more than a T in the NFL, but should be an athletic 310 + pound G that should be very good getting to the second level. Good fit for the zone blocking scheme."

I think the Rams drafted him to compete for the starting RG job from day 1.
He does offer the position flexibility the Rams value as well.
Ideally he does well and learns to handle NFL pass rushers inside.....all three Ram interior lineman got overpowered at times last year. The Rams finish 24th or so in the league in rushing.
McVay won't be happy with that.
If Bruss wins the starting RG job then Shelton is there to provide good depth at all three interior line spots. If Shelton wins the job Bruss provides depth at both G spots and at T and has time to develop.
Its a win win pick to me.