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Who has more WS wins between the Dodgers and my Cardinals? Go Cards, Blues, Tigers, and - especially - Rams!
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I could not freaking believe the Rams traded Kurt Warner. He was the ring leader of the GSOT and perhaps the greatest offense in NFL history. If not for cheating, the Rams would have won SB 36. I don't see how they could have traded him away when he still had a lot left in his tank. I even cheered for him as the cardinals QB because I felt a soft spot in my heart for him.

they didn't trade him, they cut him after june 1st so he couldn't find a team that needed a qb. the final fuck you from martz to him.

martz ruined his career and people wonder why he held a grudge.

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Stop it with this "disloyal" stuff. Its a business, we a fans.
Its not the same thing by any stretch of imagination.
Kurt Freaking Warner would have been all about the Rams had he been treated right(and if his wife was not kinda wonky) They did him wrong and he is human.
But he was the best Rams quarterback of all time. I had great trust in him when he went back and planted his back foot and the ball came out on time. Something good always happened. Never seen so many 3rd and 19s completed with dimes dropped to receivers with 3 defenders around them in my life.
I did not like seeing Hacksaw and Wendle in red. We could have used Reynolds in the early 80s. Got sick of runs up the gut against us.
I will never forget Green jogging around Candlestick before game time on Monday night singing "I'm gonna get you Joe" . And getting 4 sacks for the upset win.
Bettis was done wrong also by that collage coach our crappy cheap whore of a owner hired. In fact, most of this "disloyal" garbage is in the end, pointed straight at that sloppy dead hole.
Times are better now.
 

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Stop it with this "disloyal" stuff. Its a business, we a fans.
Its not the same thing by any stretch of imagination.
Kurt Freaking Warner would have been all about the Rams had he been treated right(and if his wife was not kinda wonky) They did him wrong and he is human.
But he was the best Rams quarterback of all time. I had great trust in him when he went back and planted his back foot and the ball came out on time. Something good always happened. Never seen so many 3rd and 19s completed with dimes dropped to receivers with 3 defenders around them in my life.
I did not like seeing Hacksaw and Wendle in red. We could have used Reynolds in the early 80s. Got sick of runs up the gut against us.
I will never forget Green jogging around Candlestick before game time on Monday night singing "I'm gonna get you Joe" . And getting 4 sacks for the upset win.
Bettis was done wrong also by that collage coach our crappy cheap whore of a owner hired. In fact, most of this "disloyal" garbage is in the end, pointed straight at that sloppy dead hole.
Times are better now.
We all have an opinion, and no, I will not stop it. The Rams organization as it is now, did not screw over Kurt Warner. He doesn't want to be associated with us now and that's his freakin' right. It's also my right to call him a disloyal f*ck, but you do you.
 

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We all have an opinion, and no, I will not stop it. The Rams organization as it is now, did not screw over Kurt Warner. He doesn't want to be associated with us now and that's his freakin' right. It's also my right to call him a disloyal f*ck, but you do you.
They dumped him when he still had Super Bowls left in him. Bulger could not carry his jock.
All they had to do was let him sit on the bench and heal. He got his thumb busted up on a Eagles players helmet with Martz's offense that threw the QB to the wolves. He gave his all to the Rams and got shit on for it.
I wish he would come back home to the team where that gave him a shot and where he had the most success. But like I said, he is human and I am not sure I would if I were in his shoes.
They are paid, we are fans. There is a huge difference.
A good owner, and we did not have one at that time would have stepped in and done things right.
You think a organization like the Steelers would have let that happen ? They have had 3 head coaches in their entire history. They stood by their quarterback, Ben the Rapist through thick and thin and let him retire a Steeler on his own terms. We had a QB who was just as talented and a much better person but could not find a way to stand by him.
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They dumped him when he still had Super Bowls left in him. Bulger could not carry his jock.
All they had to do was let him sit on the bench and heal. He got his thumb busted up on a Eagles players helmet with Martz's offense that threw the QB to the wolves. He gave his all to the Rams and got shit on for it.
I wish he would come back home to the team where that gave him a shot and where he had the most success. But like I said, he is human and I am not sure I would if I were in his shoes.
They are paid, we are fans. There is a huge difference.
A good owner, and we did not have one at that time would have stepped in and done things right.
You think a organization like the Steelers would have let that happen ? They have had 3 head coaches in their entire history. They stood by their quarterback, Ben the Rapist through thick and thin and let him retire a Steeler on his own terms. We had a QB who was just as talented and a much better person but could not find a way to stand by him.
That matters.
Frontierre, Shaw, Zygmut and Martz are gone. Kroenke, Demoff, Snead and McVay are here in LA. We welcome St Louis and LA Rams back into the fold...we want them back, no matter what happened in the past, business wise...but there is no forgiving and forgetting with Kurt Warner. He identifies as a Cardinal and has little time beyond NFL Network commitments to cover the Rams, as if he never played for us. We are the team that gave him his chance in the NFL, which he cried to Vermeil his thanks after Super Bowl 34...Now, he could give shyte.
 

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Frontierre, Shaw, Zygmut and Martz are gone. Kroenke, Demoff, Snead and McVay are here in LA. We welcome St Louis and LA Rams back into the fold...we want them back, no matter what happened in the past, business wise...but there is no forgiving and forgetting with Kurt Warner. He identifies as a Cardinal and has little time beyond NFL Network commitments to cover the Rams, as if he never played for us. We are the team that gave him his chance in the NFL, which he cried to Vermeil his thanks after Super Bowl 34...Now, he could give shyte.
Green Bay is the team that gave him his first chance in the NFL.
I wish he would come back and he still could one day. But we do not know how bad it really got so its a little harsh to judge the greatest quarterback in Rams history when we simply do not know the dirt on it all.
 

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Green Bay is the team that gave him his first chance in the NFL.
I wish he would come back and he still could one day. But we do not know how bad it really got so its a little harsh to judge the greatest quarterback in Rams history when we simply do not know the dirt on it all.
He never had a real chance to start in Green Bay and even he said as much. Mooch and Gruden said as much. But Vermeil stuck him in after Green went down, to start. Vermeil could have gotten a retread QB, but he went with his practice squad QB and the rest is history.
 

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He never had a real chance to start in Green Bay and even he said as much. Mooch and Gruden said as much. But Vermeil stuck him in after Green went down, to start. Vermeil could have gotten a retread QB, but he went with his practice squad QB and the rest is history.
He was not ready in Green Bay and Farve was there so exactly zero new quarterbacks had a chance to start. You could say the Rams were in position to give him a shot because of our ineptness at the position of the 90s. Us and the Bengals were the worst of that decade. Miller, Walsh, Banks, Rypien.......and the great Keith Null. Made me sick. 98, the year Vermiel took over the playcalling was a low point. Our team leading rusher with 300 yards. Bad memories.
So Warner who tore up Arena Football, yeah, give him a shot.
All this is why 99 was so great. A true worst to first.
I can remember the excitement building up to that season. Martz, Trent, Faulk, Holt and seeing the SB odds at 200-1. My In laws were going on a trip to Reno in August and I was trying to get a hold of them to put a 100$ on the Rams to win it all. But back then no one had cell phones.
20 grand slipped through my Rams fan fingers.
 

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Hey, some people don't want to take context into consideration and that is their right to do so. It's like my nephew who is career Army and his cousin who is career Navy, they don't understand my brother and my distaste for the military as it was in the 60's and 70's. As I told both of them had the Navy been back then what it is now I would have probably tried to stay in (injuries allowing) and made a career of it. i was being fast-tracked to OCS before my injuries (i.e. within 60 days of my return stateside). Back then and it extends almost up until today we were treated differently. Case in point even today I have a lower priority with the VA despite being combat injured, the same was with my brother who had to fight for almost 20 years to get his permanent disability designation. Combat injured since the first Iraq War have a higher priority even to this day than my brother and I.

So when I see former Ram players who turn a cold shoulder to the Rams now I understand the context of their distaste. To consider them disloyal IMO is doing them the same dis-service as was done to my brother and I. When I got stateside on the first day of my return I walked into a coffee shop to get something to eat. Since I was in transit I was in uniform and so they refused to serve me and the waitress spit on me calling me a baby killer. So yeah I understand the concept of context because nowadays people thank me for my service when they find out I'm a vet.

My brother and I today remember how back then we had to lie on our job applications about being a vet. If you checked the veteran status box you wouldn't get an interview.

So yes Loyal you have an absolute right to your opinion. Just like some of us have the right to disagree with the concept.
 

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Hey, some people don't want to take context into consideration and that is their right to do so. It's like my nephew who is career Army and his cousin who is career Navy, they don't understand my brother and my distaste for the military as it was in the 60's and 70's. As I told both of them had the Navy been back then what it is now I would have probably tried to stay in (injuries allowing) and made a career of it. i was being fast-tracked to OCS before my injuries (i.e. within 60 days of my return stateside). Back then and it extends almost up until today we were treated differently. Case in point even today I have a lower priority with the VA despite being combat injured, the same was with my brother who had to fight for almost 20 years to get his permanent disability designation. Combat injured since the first Iraq War have a higher priority even to this day than my brother and I.

So when I see former Ram players who turn a cold shoulder to the Rams now I understand the context of their distaste. To consider them disloyal IMO is doing them the same dis-service as was done to my brother and I. When I got stateside on the first day of my return I walked into a coffee shop to get something to eat. Since I was in transit I was in uniform and so they refused to serve me and the waitress spit on me calling me a baby killer. So yeah I understand the concept of context because nowadays people thank me for my service when they find out I'm a vet.

My brother and I today remember how back then we had to lie on our job applications about being a vet. If you checked the veteran status box you wouldn't get an interview.

So yes Loyal you have an absolute right to your opinion. Just like some of us have the right to disagree with the concept.
Never said anything different. I will say that you don't own the right to decide who is being contextual and who is not.