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Rodney Harrison is an un intelligent human. He could have cited the following numbers in twitter against Fisher to make his point. I wish Jeff Fisher ignored Rodney and didn't go after him. This is pretty bad:
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Remember the good old days of the Greatest Show on Turf? The Rams had a high-flying, high-scoring offense that confounded defenses. Frustrated opponents didn't have much success in stopping the Rams from 1999 through 2001, so they tried to hit Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt with insults.
The Rams were accused of being a soft, pretty, finesse team that preferred flag football over tackle football. The Rams took umbrage at the depiction and used the zingers for extra motivation.
Many years later, it's strange to see the Rams being portrayed as NFL bad boys. Talk about a dramatic change in identity. But did anyone really expect a Jeff Fisher team to invite an opposing team to join them in singing "Kumbaya"?
Only two games into Fisher's first season, the 2012 Rams are gaining a rep for their chippy, edgy, aggressive play.
You can add "dirty play" to the list.
In comments reported by the Washington Post, Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III accused the Rams of hitting him with cheap shots during Sunday's game.
"They were definitely going after me," Griffin said. "They were doing a lot of dirty things."
Griffin called the game "unprofessional" and claimed a Rams player warned him that he'd be hit on every play.
"Some of the shots were cheap," RG III said.
The Rams have a 1-1 record in the standings. But they are 2-0 in irritating opponents and baiting them into taking stupid penalties.
In the season opener at Detroit, Lions coach Jim Schwartz benched wide receiver Titus Young for head-butting chirping rookie Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins. Young was flagged with a 15-yard penalty. This pleased Rams cornerback Cortland Finnegan, a heckling co-conspirator who caused Young to snap.
Young "didn't do a smart thing," Schwartz said. "We knew what was going to happen in some situations. He and a couple of guys (Jenkins and Finnegan) were going back and forth, and it looked like he was going to walk away but at the last second he turned and made a really dumb decision."
In Sunday's 31-28 win over Washington, after a barking Finnegan shoved Redskins wide receiver Josh Morgan. Fed up after being razzed by Finnegan all afternoon, Morgan reacted by throwing the ball at his tormentor. The result: a costly 15-yard penalty that ruined Washington's last-drive opportunity to tie or win the game.
Finnegan was Fisher's first free-agent signing, and that's no coincidence.
Say hello to the new Rams.
They are rather bristly — just like their coach's mustache.
They are nothing like the feckless Rams of 2007-2011 who lost 65 of 80 games as the league's resident patsies.
When Fisher took over, he had to transform this team's personality and give it a spine. You could say that Coach is making progress. We've watched two games filled with hard hits, taunting, jostling, skirmishing, and other fine "Longest Yard" tributes.
As officials reviewed a replay Sunday, Redskins offensive tackle Trent Williams approached Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, his teammate and buddy at Oklahoma. When Williams playfully tapped Bradford's helmet, he probably didn't expect to be encircled by a herd of angry, snarling Rams. Officials had to rush in and pull Williams out of there.
Another scene: Jenkins laying out Redskins tight end Fred Davis with a shoulder to the head. The incompetent officiating crew didn't penalize Jenkins, who should be fined, but the vicious hit had the Redskins boiling.
Oh, and another thing: Redskins receivers seemed to become keenly aware of their surroundings after seeing Davis stagger to the bench. The visitors were, shall we say, a bit tentative in their pass routes over the middle.
Whoa, boy. And just imagine what St. Louis football Sundays will look like after New Orleans Saints "Bounty" mastermind Gregg Williams rejoins the operation. Williams, hired by Fisher to run the defense, is in exile while serving an indefinite NFL suspension.
I did a Google search to see how many times Fisher's Tennessee Titans were accused of cheap shots, misconduct, random violence and general rudeness during his years as coach.
Google had no problem coming up with, oh, a million examples.
A few jumped out, including this bitter comment made by then-Denver head coach Josh McDaniels after the Broncos faced the surly Titans in 2010.
"I was proud of our team because we knew that was the kind of game it was going to be," McDaniels said. "You can put any tape you want to of Tennessee and there's going to be 10 penalties. You either coach it or you allow it to happen. There's a way to play tough and physical without being excessive and playing dirty after the snap."
Countered the cool Fisher: “We did have six sacks against the quarterback and numerous other times they did have some difficulty with protection and blocking our defensive line. Maybe he’s referring to that."
In another memorable 2010 game, Finnegan tangled with Houston wide receiver Andre Johnson, and the hostilities quickly escalated into a fight.
A week later, on the Sunday network pregame shows, studio analysts offered these opinions on the Finnegan-Johnson scuffle.
"This is no surprise," said NBC's Rodney Harrison, the retired hard-hitting NFL safety. "The Titans, this is their personality. They're dirty, they're cheap."
Yeah, as if Harrison should talk. He was reviled during his playing days for hitting players late or diving at their knees. But I guess it takes a miscreant to know one. Harrison told a story about an incident in a 2006 game. Harrison claims he injured a knee because of a cut block executed by Titans receiver Bobby Wade. As Harrison writhed on the ground in pain, he alleges that he saw Fisher and several Titans laughing on the sideline.
On the CBS pregame show, retired tight end Shannon Sharpe said: "Why is it I can close my eyes, and if there's a team involved in a fight, I know it's the Titans? Jeff Fisher says, 'We don't coach this, we don't condone this,' but why is his team always involved in stuff like this?"
Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher nodded in agreement.
“They are the constant,” Cowher said.
Retired Indianapolis coach Tony Dungy accused the Titans of putting a bounty on Colts quarterback Peyton Manning.
Former San Diego pass rusher Shawne Merriman once claimed that Fisher ordered a hit on him, to go after his knees.
The "Greatest Show" Rams had their own special experience with Fisher and the Titans. Six months after St. Louis defeated the Titans 23-16 in an extremely physical Super Bowl, the teams gathered at the Rams' training camp for two days of organized practices.
Coaches Fisher and Mike Martz agreed in advance: There would be no contact, no rough stuff, no reason to dial 911.
Shockingly, this pleasant cooperative between rivals ended with two Rams rookies limping off with serious injuries. In the previous day's work the Titans defense was no match for the souped-up Rams offense. A fuming Fisher challenged his men to do something about it.
They did. Rams running back Trung Canidate was shoved out of bounds by a Titans DB and and landed awkwardly; the subsequent high ankle sprain just about ruined Canidate's rookie year. Another rookie, offensive lineman Kaulana Noa, broke his arm while trying to tame assorted Titans and missed the entire season.
For some odd reason, Martz never got around to scheduling another joint practice with the Titans.
"When you scrimmage another team, you have to be very careful and selective of who it is," Martz said at the time. "Because they're going to take a different approach than you do, and you end up getting guys hurt."
Fisher took a year off from coaching in 2011. In case you were worried that Fisher had lost his sharp edge during a relaxing and peaceful sabbatical, you may want to run that by Titus Young, Josh Morgan, Fred Davis, Trent Williams and RG III.
For a football town that was raised on Air Coryell and taken to two NFC Championships by "The Greatest Show" Rams, this unfamiliar style of raw football is something of a culture shock.
From 2001-2010, Fisher's Titans led the NFL in most personal foul penalties with 163. They were called for a league-high 67 penalties for unnecessary roughness, and flagged 46 times for roughing the passer. Moreover, the Titans were slapped with 18 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
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Remember the good old days of the Greatest Show on Turf? The Rams had a high-flying, high-scoring offense that confounded defenses. Frustrated opponents didn't have much success in stopping the Rams from 1999 through 2001, so they tried to hit Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt with insults.
The Rams were accused of being a soft, pretty, finesse team that preferred flag football over tackle football. The Rams took umbrage at the depiction and used the zingers for extra motivation.
Many years later, it's strange to see the Rams being portrayed as NFL bad boys. Talk about a dramatic change in identity. But did anyone really expect a Jeff Fisher team to invite an opposing team to join them in singing "Kumbaya"?
Only two games into Fisher's first season, the 2012 Rams are gaining a rep for their chippy, edgy, aggressive play.
You can add "dirty play" to the list.
In comments reported by the Washington Post, Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III accused the Rams of hitting him with cheap shots during Sunday's game.
"They were definitely going after me," Griffin said. "They were doing a lot of dirty things."
Griffin called the game "unprofessional" and claimed a Rams player warned him that he'd be hit on every play.
"Some of the shots were cheap," RG III said.
The Rams have a 1-1 record in the standings. But they are 2-0 in irritating opponents and baiting them into taking stupid penalties.
In the season opener at Detroit, Lions coach Jim Schwartz benched wide receiver Titus Young for head-butting chirping rookie Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins. Young was flagged with a 15-yard penalty. This pleased Rams cornerback Cortland Finnegan, a heckling co-conspirator who caused Young to snap.
Young "didn't do a smart thing," Schwartz said. "We knew what was going to happen in some situations. He and a couple of guys (Jenkins and Finnegan) were going back and forth, and it looked like he was going to walk away but at the last second he turned and made a really dumb decision."
In Sunday's 31-28 win over Washington, after a barking Finnegan shoved Redskins wide receiver Josh Morgan. Fed up after being razzed by Finnegan all afternoon, Morgan reacted by throwing the ball at his tormentor. The result: a costly 15-yard penalty that ruined Washington's last-drive opportunity to tie or win the game.
Finnegan was Fisher's first free-agent signing, and that's no coincidence.
Say hello to the new Rams.
They are rather bristly — just like their coach's mustache.
They are nothing like the feckless Rams of 2007-2011 who lost 65 of 80 games as the league's resident patsies.
When Fisher took over, he had to transform this team's personality and give it a spine. You could say that Coach is making progress. We've watched two games filled with hard hits, taunting, jostling, skirmishing, and other fine "Longest Yard" tributes.
As officials reviewed a replay Sunday, Redskins offensive tackle Trent Williams approached Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, his teammate and buddy at Oklahoma. When Williams playfully tapped Bradford's helmet, he probably didn't expect to be encircled by a herd of angry, snarling Rams. Officials had to rush in and pull Williams out of there.
Another scene: Jenkins laying out Redskins tight end Fred Davis with a shoulder to the head. The incompetent officiating crew didn't penalize Jenkins, who should be fined, but the vicious hit had the Redskins boiling.
Oh, and another thing: Redskins receivers seemed to become keenly aware of their surroundings after seeing Davis stagger to the bench. The visitors were, shall we say, a bit tentative in their pass routes over the middle.
Whoa, boy. And just imagine what St. Louis football Sundays will look like after New Orleans Saints "Bounty" mastermind Gregg Williams rejoins the operation. Williams, hired by Fisher to run the defense, is in exile while serving an indefinite NFL suspension.
I did a Google search to see how many times Fisher's Tennessee Titans were accused of cheap shots, misconduct, random violence and general rudeness during his years as coach.
Google had no problem coming up with, oh, a million examples.
A few jumped out, including this bitter comment made by then-Denver head coach Josh McDaniels after the Broncos faced the surly Titans in 2010.
"I was proud of our team because we knew that was the kind of game it was going to be," McDaniels said. "You can put any tape you want to of Tennessee and there's going to be 10 penalties. You either coach it or you allow it to happen. There's a way to play tough and physical without being excessive and playing dirty after the snap."
Countered the cool Fisher: “We did have six sacks against the quarterback and numerous other times they did have some difficulty with protection and blocking our defensive line. Maybe he’s referring to that."
In another memorable 2010 game, Finnegan tangled with Houston wide receiver Andre Johnson, and the hostilities quickly escalated into a fight.
A week later, on the Sunday network pregame shows, studio analysts offered these opinions on the Finnegan-Johnson scuffle.
"This is no surprise," said NBC's Rodney Harrison, the retired hard-hitting NFL safety. "The Titans, this is their personality. They're dirty, they're cheap."
Yeah, as if Harrison should talk. He was reviled during his playing days for hitting players late or diving at their knees. But I guess it takes a miscreant to know one. Harrison told a story about an incident in a 2006 game. Harrison claims he injured a knee because of a cut block executed by Titans receiver Bobby Wade. As Harrison writhed on the ground in pain, he alleges that he saw Fisher and several Titans laughing on the sideline.
On the CBS pregame show, retired tight end Shannon Sharpe said: "Why is it I can close my eyes, and if there's a team involved in a fight, I know it's the Titans? Jeff Fisher says, 'We don't coach this, we don't condone this,' but why is his team always involved in stuff like this?"
Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher nodded in agreement.
“They are the constant,” Cowher said.
Retired Indianapolis coach Tony Dungy accused the Titans of putting a bounty on Colts quarterback Peyton Manning.
Former San Diego pass rusher Shawne Merriman once claimed that Fisher ordered a hit on him, to go after his knees.
The "Greatest Show" Rams had their own special experience with Fisher and the Titans. Six months after St. Louis defeated the Titans 23-16 in an extremely physical Super Bowl, the teams gathered at the Rams' training camp for two days of organized practices.
Coaches Fisher and Mike Martz agreed in advance: There would be no contact, no rough stuff, no reason to dial 911.
Shockingly, this pleasant cooperative between rivals ended with two Rams rookies limping off with serious injuries. In the previous day's work the Titans defense was no match for the souped-up Rams offense. A fuming Fisher challenged his men to do something about it.
They did. Rams running back Trung Canidate was shoved out of bounds by a Titans DB and and landed awkwardly; the subsequent high ankle sprain just about ruined Canidate's rookie year. Another rookie, offensive lineman Kaulana Noa, broke his arm while trying to tame assorted Titans and missed the entire season.
For some odd reason, Martz never got around to scheduling another joint practice with the Titans.
"When you scrimmage another team, you have to be very careful and selective of who it is," Martz said at the time. "Because they're going to take a different approach than you do, and you end up getting guys hurt."
Fisher took a year off from coaching in 2011. In case you were worried that Fisher had lost his sharp edge during a relaxing and peaceful sabbatical, you may want to run that by Titus Young, Josh Morgan, Fred Davis, Trent Williams and RG III.
For a football town that was raised on Air Coryell and taken to two NFC Championships by "The Greatest Show" Rams, this unfamiliar style of raw football is something of a culture shock.
From 2001-2010, Fisher's Titans led the NFL in most personal foul penalties with 163. They were called for a league-high 67 penalties for unnecessary roughness, and flagged 46 times for roughing the passer. Moreover, the Titans were slapped with 18 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
