Media Fallout Week2

[Ramit]

View: https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1309122995164770306?s=19

 

[Flint]

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also the rams are running the ball much better so the lbers have to respect the run.

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McVay deserves credit for getting the run game going again and yes, that does lead to “silver platter” throws for the qb, Goff has the fewest tight window throws in the league. How is that a bad thing? If this is Brady or Peyton then they are surgical and disciplined but if it is Goff he’s just throwing it to a guy who’s wide open.
All these dudes said Goff is trash and McVay is over, now clearly neither of those is correct so they give respect grudgingly sort of. I guess it’s pretty clear McVay’s a better coach than Kingsbury so I guess Murray has to overcome his coaches shortcomings, that’s the only way I see Murray as better than Goff. It may be exciting when Murray takes off running but that doesn’t mean the play worked, was the receiver open ? Did the qb go through his reads?
Simms doesn’t care for Goff never has, whatever.

 

[nighttrain]

Runnin QB's like Murray and that cat in Baltimore have a limited shelf life, one bad hit and their careers take nosedive, it always happens, It's why most running backs are done after 4-5 seasons
train

 

[Ramit]

View: https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1308920603001458690?s=19

 

[Allen2McVay]

Runnin QB's like Murray and that cat in Baltimore have a limited shelf life, one bad hit and their careers take nosedive, it always happens, It's why most running backs are done after 4-5 seasons
train

Agree

How many mobile QBs are effective into their mid-30s. A few. I would offer Aaron Rodgers as one, and John Elway as another.

How many pocket-QBs with limited movement skills remained elite or really good well into their 30s ... more I would suggest. Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Kelly, Marino, Anderson, Fouts, Palmer, Moon come to mind.

Some guys could move well early in their careers but adjusted to be more of a pocket passer as they matured.

Big Ben and Favre are harder to categorize. I think of them more as LBs who played QB.

My Russell Wilson comparison has always been Fran Tarkenton. Most of his movement is behind the LOS and it allows him more time to throw. When he gets tackled, Wilson does a great job of protecting his body and avoids brutal hits. That was Tarkenton. However, Wilson’s deep accuracy throwing on the run is amazing.

Have seen a lot of athletic (and successful) movement QBs look old at thirty because of too many big hits. Most recent being Cam Newton. Interested to see how his season goes, and how the next few seasons go

 

[Corbin]

Having A kid who just went through peewee league and is now starting both ways in Jr High, I have first hand experience with the Chris Simms syndrome. Every coaches kid or kid whose dad was a former high school star gets everything handed to them and they get pissed every time my son displays in practice that he's better than they are.

That makes so much sense to. Had bad experiences playing with entitled fucks like that messed up things by being a spoiled royal twat!

 

[Memento]

Having A kid who just went through peewee league and is now starting both ways in Jr High, I have first hand experience with the Chris Simms syndrome. Every coaches kid or kid whose dad was a former high school star gets everything handed to them and they get pissed every time my son displays in practice that he's better than they are.

Good luck to your kid! What positions does he play?

 

[KNUCKLEHEAD]

Chris Simms - " All I'm saying is that Jared Goff is a better QB right than I could have ever dreamed to be... That's all I'm saying."

 

[CoachAllred]

Simms is a jealous ten year old moonlighting as an analyst. Goff has improved a lot in the past year IMO. Just watching his handoffs for example the dude is so fucking smooth with his body control that it's hard to read his motion. I think his fakes are among the league's best right now. He's on top of his game and the opposing LBs don't have any idea where the ball is.

Here's an example. Remember that TD run by Woody in the first quarter? Check out the smoothness...

Pre-snap
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Fake to Kupp and the LBs are frozen
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Great fake to Brown and they're still frozen. The ILB closest to the LOS will be sucked in on it.
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And now the coup de grace with the flip of the ball to Woody. Now people won't be impressed by this but look at his body language. Look where Goff's hands are. And note the position of the LBs with the nearest one at the left hash.
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Look at the distance Woody travelled before the LB committed. That is some nasty fuckin misdirection man and yeah McVay drew it up but Goff executed that shit with a straight back and a wrist flip.
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Easy TD.
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Awesome post and observations Merlin! I have noticed a big difference in Goff and Company's ball fakes
this year. The subtleties that you pointed out so well, are the difference in the D buying it or seeing through it.

When I'm watching plays like this live (from a birds eye perspective, no less) and I catch myself following the wrong
man.? You know it's got to be hell for a LB to try to read.
I have a saying that I have used for years, 1 good ball fake = 2 good blocks and the Ram's are doing it to perfection.

Love your cutups and analysis Bro!

 

[Merlin]

Agree

How many mobile QBs are effective into their mid-30s. A few. I would offer Aaron Rodgers as one, and John Elway as another.

How many pocket-QBs with limited movement skills remained elite or really good well into their 30s ... more I would suggest. Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Kelly, Marino, Anderson, Fouts, Palmer, Moon come to mind.

Some guys could move well early in their careers but adjusted to be more of a pocket passer as they matured.

Big Ben and Favre are harder to categorize. I think of them more as LBs who played QB.

My Russell Wilson comparison has always been Fran Tarkenton. Most of his movement is behind the LOS and it allows him more time to throw. When he gets tackled, Wilson does a great job of protecting his body and avoids brutal hits. That was Tarkenton. However, Wilson’s deep accuracy throwing on the run is amazing.

Have seen a lot of athletic (and successful) movement QBs look old at thirty because of too many big hits. Most recent being Cam Newton. Interested to see how his season goes, and how the next few seasons go

Yeah there's a clear tendency of pocket QBs to last longer. And there's a clear tendency of running QBs to start fast then fizzle as coaches try to get them to use pocket protections more to prolong their careers. Some adjust but it's tough if you're conditioned to help yourself move the chains by using your legs.

Elway also ran around in the backfield to buy time. He wasn't a big plus scrambler, was more about gunning that ball downfield. But I've always said if I were to coach a young scrambler type QB the first thing I'd do is show him tape of Elway. Elway's successor is Mahomes btw. At least to my eye. Uncanny accuracy downfield under pressure and he scrambles to buy time while keeping his eyes downfield.

Wilson and Tarkenton are a good comp. Although I hated Fran's personality and grudgingly respect Wilson.

Bottom line for me is the question of "is my QB good enough to win it all." With Goff I think he absolutely is. He's growing and getting better and the best is still ahead.

Oh and diggin that avatar man.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

It's so hard to listen to Chris Simms. Honestly it feels like he has so much competitive jealousy for Goff thinking he could of done what Jared's doing now. Also, not admitting he's been wrong after all these years and choosing this to be the hill he dies on guy is ridiculous.

Was it Gruden that drafted Simms?

 

[Corbin]

Was it Gruden that drafted Simms?

Yep! Good ol chucky with the Bucs

 

[TK42-RAM]

View: https://twitter.com/PaulCalvisi/status/1308506880239570944?s=20

 

[A.J. Hicks]

Yep! Good ol chucky with the Bucs

Would Mcvay have been on Gruden's staff at the time?

 

[Corbin]

Would Mcvay have been on Gruden's staff at the time?

Don’t know if this means anything but McVay started in 08 on the Bucs and that offseason Simms was a FA and got signed by the Titans. I doubt McVay had anything to do with his departure or influence on them letting him walk, but people hold a grudge for stupid little things life so who knows.

 

[CoachAllred]

Having A kid who just went through peewee league and is now starting both ways in Jr High, I have first hand experience with the Chris Simms syndrome. Every coaches kid or kid whose dad was a former high school star gets everything handed to them and they get pissed every time my son displays in practice that he's better than they are.

I have pissed off a many of parent ( including my wife ) because I absolutely refused to start a kid unless
they earned it. I always told the parents at the beginning of the year that I didn't care whether the kids dad was
the richest man alive or the town drunk, I am starting the kids who give the team the best chance for success.
I was also quick to shut down any assistant coach, who thought he had a inside track on his kid starting just
because he was coaching.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Good luck to your kid! What positions does he play?

Thank you. Lincoln plays Center and NT. He had a great game tonight going against a 2 year redshift middle linebacker who blitzed on every play. The kid should be in 9th grade. Linc totally stoned him . It was extra fun because the visitor stands were closed due to CoVid concerns (dumb) and in pregame the home crowd was all abuzz talking this kid up. He was the biggest kid on the field and he got so pissed that he gave Linc a firearm to the throat near the end of the game. I guess hes not used to being blocked. On defense Linc combined for a few tackles, made some stops at the line when the opponent tried running up the middle, 3 QB pressures, one leading to an int, a punt return tackle and should have had a fumble recovery that a teammate ripped from his arm and then lost. They rarely throw in this league but two weeks in a row he was so close to getting a sack. On one play the RB tackled him and didn't draw a flag, and tonight the RB shoved him in the back throwing him off balance, but he got his hand in the QBs face.

He is not the tallest kid on the team but he's the strongest and quickest. We sit and break down ADs moves and watch ADs training clips on Youtube. All the kids are calling him Big Daddy. I'm happy for him because peewee league has been a struggle with coaches putting him at olb two years, and OL. He has always been the best tackler on the team. Playing him outside was a waste because every game after two runs to his side the opposing team would stop running that way. So he'd only get a few tackles then run in space the rest of the game. The two years at DT in Peewee he was doing great. He's always bern great tactician right from the start.

This year they have a college DE from Bloomsburg U helping with coaching and he loves coaching Lincoln. It's taking Linc to the next level. The guys name is Alex Findura. He is getting mentioned for community outreach award on ESPN. I think its this weekend. My wife took the team photo to send into ESPN. This is the second time he's been on ESPN. They did a feature piece on him, because he had a four year scholarship to Georgia State and he left to join the marines. He became a body bearer for fallen soldiers at Arlington cemetery. After his four years of service he landed at BU. He's a great influence on our whole team.

I keep preparing Lincoln to be ready for anything in high school. The high school coach won't play favorites. He has no kids on the team and wants to win. Lincoln is average height and projected to only to top out about 6', so his position could change. Its fun to watch him in pickup games. He throws farther and with more accuracy than his QB. He can totally juke kids and make them miss when he's running, unlike his teams running backs and he can make one handed catches in stride. The only thing he lacks is top end speed, but he's still the fifth fastest on the team and always finishes first on the endurance runs. I shouldn't brag, but I'm so glad to see his hard work pay off after being passed over for positions he clearly earned through the years.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I have pissed off a many of parent ( including my wife ) because I absolutely refused to start a kid unless
they earned it. I always told the parents at the beginning of the year that I didn't care whether the kids dad was
the richest man alive or the town drunk, I am starting the kids who give the team the best chance for success.
I was also quick to shut down any assistant coach, who thought he had a inside track on his kid starting just
because he was coaching.

That's the way it should be at every level in every town across the country. I was naive to think it was like that when we entered the realm of youth sports.

Little League baseball is just as bad as Peewee football. Coaches ignore kids ability because they want their kids to be the star. The coaches kids play Shortstop and pitch in our league and it doesn't matter how good, bad or lazy they are. I guess its the problem with having Dads as coaches, but anymore they are the only volunteers and they have their agendas. We had one guy who coached LL for 26 years. He passed away just before my son reached LL. He was an admirable man as far as coaches go. I would have loved for him to coach Lincoln.

Our school district hired a football coach that had no high school experience about 8 years ago. At the board meetings the room was filled with his former peewee players vouching for him and parents giving recommendations. He was a tough guy and put the best players on the field despite seniority. He resurrected the High School program, but then one year he moved the Jr QB to RB in favor of a much taller and better Freshman QB. It was the right decision but the kids dad was a board member and a doctor, so he had influence and was furious. After that everything Coach Keiser did was unfairly scrutinized. Five years later he was fired despite his success and despite kids and parents saying how much he helped them on and off the field. It only took a parent here or there, each year whose kid was not getting in the game. Now Kaiser us coaching one of our rivals.