McVay's In Game Coaching Process

[kurtfaulk]

It's worked for the offense.. but I've never seen a great coach who did what he is doing right now and only pay attention to one side of the ball in such a totality.

I felt like there were times he didn't know what was going on this year because of his unusual style.

I was watching nfl live today and teddy bruschi was talking about that. He said bellyfat did the same thing his first year. He would spend all his time with the defense and pay no attention to what the offense was doing on the field. He let weis do whatever he had to do.

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[jacktheripper85]

It was both jarring and intriguing to see McVay huddled in the corner prepping o strategy and other duties on the water coolers.

Do you think this type of workload (head coach, OC, play caller) is sustainable or will our prized, young buck burn out?

Do you think this style is a form of coaching that this new generation will usher in? i.e "In the trenches"

What are some viable alternatives to this approach, do you think McVay will eventually assign more duties to his staff?




I personally think it may be too much for McVay -- he even commented on his exhaustion with the quick turnaround for Thursday in the post game presser.

I hope as the offense develops he'll be able to take a less hands on approach and become more managerial.

I have to be honest-I don't really like my head coach sitting near the sidelines during half the game. There is no questioning that McVay has a brilliant offensive mind and we put up over 40 points but in reality If offensive pass interference isn't called we lose that game.

Here in NY area the big knock on Rex Ryan when he was with the Jets was that he had no feel for the flow of the game because he only cared about the defense and ignored offense and special teams and eventually it cost him. I'm hoping McVay doesn't go that route.

With his offensive acumen he should be able to give input to Wade about what other offenses are trying to do against our defense and should be utilizing himself as an asset rather than not having any input at all.

I don't mean to nit pick because I love the direction of the offense but at the end of the day I want my defense to know that my head coach is trying to help us out too, is understanding the entire pulse of the game and holding players accountable during the course of a game and not just in the film room. Again, I think he's going to be great but would love to see more of a presence on the sideline during the game and we did almost blow this one.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[RhodyRams]

This is the first time I have seen McVay sitting during the game. I think he realized that the D was useless and offense was going to win the game.

I didnt see him sitting at all vs Indy or Washington

 

[Ramfansince79]

It's worked for the offense.. but I've never seen a great coach who did what he is doing right now and only pay attention to one side of the ball in such a totality.

I felt like there were times he didn't know what was going on this year because of his unusual style.

I don't have a problem with it at all. Wade's been coaching D for decades-- I'm not sure it makes a difference where our HC is when the D is on the field since I doubt Wade is going to ask him what to do anyway!

 

[Mojo Ram]

As others have noted, he's got Wade & Fassel handling things. He's also got LaFleur up in the crows nest.
This offense was dead last in the league for the last 2 years. His approach is working offensively.

I am a little concerned about burn out, but IMO that's unrelated to where he sits or stands on gameday.

 

[den-the-coach]

If the net result is 41 points McVay can sit next to Bob Uecker in the front row for all I care.

 

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Possible story titles coming soon....

"Watercooler concepts. How the Rams became offensive" Story by Sports Illustrated on the Rams surprise Super Bowl season.

":Hudddle at the Water Cooler" Motivational Techniques by Sean McVay

"Rams run wild in new offense coined "Watercooler Rush"

"Rams remove benches, add more water coolers"

"Flip right, double-X, jet 36 counter, naked watercooler 7X waggle" now simply called "The Play" by worldwide media outlets.

 

[Ram65]

With his offensive acumen he should be able to give input to Wade about what other offenses are trying to do against our defense and should be utilizing himself as an asset rather than not having any input at all.

I wondered about that. In this game maybe he could have seen some things because he knows Kyle Shanahan very well. Hard to say how much if any he could have helped. Could he have an idea that 3rd down and 17 quick screen to Garcon was coming? It's an interesting thought that I've wondered about. Head Coaches usually come from one side of the ball and work that side. McVay is sure doing a great job on the offensive side.

Partial article about crossing paths in Washington

http://www.espn.com/blog/san-franci...sean-mcvay-are-now-nfls-youngest-head-coaches
.........Shanahan and McVay were born almost six years apart, but it didn't take more than a few minutes for them to realize they shared a similar football world view.

"I was very fortunate when I got the chance to interview with Coach Shanahan and Kyle ... we had a little bit of a similar background," McVay said. "We were both able to speak the same language, and then once I got around Kyle -- it takes you about two minutes to realize what a bright offensive mind he is -- and really the next couple of years we continued to grow in our friendship, but then also really learning a lot from him, just the way that he’s able to scheme people up, the way he leads.

"He’s one of the guys that I respect as much as anybody in this business, and he’s been a huge influence on my coaching career.".............................

The almost instant bond between Shanahan and McVay should be no surprise given their backgrounds and their next-level thirst for football knowledge. It's also not much of a surprise that those things resulted in Shanahan, 37, and McVay, 31, eventually becoming the NFL's two youngest head coaches. They will meet for the first time Thursday night at Levi's Stadium, when Shanahan's San Francisco 49ers host McVay's Los Angeles Rams.

 

[majrleaged]

This is great for a Rams talk thread and all, but I'm sorry, this is just a bunch of worrying about nothing. This is a first time head coach hired because he is an "offensive guru". He needs to focus on what he does best because there is no room for failing at what he does best. Unlike other first time head coaches we have had, he went out and got the best assistant coaches he could get, so he can rely on them. This is what he is doing and it is working so far. As he gets experience as a HC I am sure he gets better at all of it. Also he is involved in every aspect of the team between game days, just like he is supposed to. Don't be fooled by his game day focus.

 

[OC_Ram]

Just keep getting the WIN

 

[Flint]

I think it was only an issue cuz of him sitting on the cooler. There are probably other coaches who don't pay attention it's just that it was obvious with McVay. Bruschi was saying Belichek used to not watch the offense, he even asked him about it. So, no, not a big deal.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I mean, it may bite us when it comes to using timeouts late in games (actually, I predict we'll screw up and end of half or game scenario because of it) and he'll have to learn that as a head coach. It's not just Goff who will have growing pains...

 

[iamme33]

This is the first time I have seen McVay sitting during the game. I think he realized that the D was useless and offense was going to win the game.

I didnt see him sitting at all vs Indy or Washington

I noticed in the Washington game that fassel was yaking at him a lot setting on the cooler might just be a way to get fassel out of his ear

 

[Merlin]

Here in NY area the big knock on Rex Ryan when he was with the Jets was that he had no feel for the flow of the game because he only cared about the defense and ignored offense and special teams and eventually it cost him. I'm hoping McVay doesn't go that route.

Through three games I have yet to see a situation where McVay mismanaged the clock, or timeouts, or the team strategy in general. Rex was a stupid head coach, he never could get a feel for the flow of a game. McVay is a natural there and I'll be surprised if that becomes an issue.

I think it was only an issue cuz of him sitting on the cooler. There are probably other coaches who don't pay attention it's just that it was obvious with McVay. Bruschi was saying Belichek used to not watch the offense, he even asked him about it. So, no, not a big deal.

Yeah Belichik used to do that in his early years, and as he grew as a head coach went away from it. Truth is we have a 31 year old head coach who is learning on the job. He's a quick study though, so let him do his thing. It's not even a minor concern for me, because what's important is we have a young HC who is going to grow into greatness right before our eyes. Let's just enjoy the ride IMO.

 

[Karate61]

Do you think this type of workload (head coach, OC, play caller) is sustainable or will our prized, young buck burn out?

Oh child please. No offense but this sounds like the concern of a wussy millennial. I'm 50, run my whole company, probably work harder than any football head coach, and all year long, week-in, week-out. And you're concerned he might burn out? LOL!!! He's not related to Vermeil, is he???

 

[RaminExile]

He's learning. At the moment he thinks hes the best guy to run his offense and call the plays and Wade is the best guy to run the defense. I couldn't argue with the results so far. I think we'll see him develop, hopefully over the next decade or more under our eyes and when he finds someone he trusts to run his offense then I'm sure he'll adapt.

 

[wolfdogg]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I agree he looks more focused and if anything sitting there rests his legs and minimizes the on field and sideline distractions. He's got the right coaches in place so he doesn't have to overextend himself.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Oh child please. No offense but this sounds like the concern of a wussy millennial.

Not necessary. Whether its meant to be personal or not, it comes across that way so please stick to the topic and/or post content...not the poster.
Thanks.

 

[jacktheripper85]

Through three games I have yet to see a situation where McVay mismanaged the clock, or timeouts, or the team strategy in general. Rex was a stupid head coach, he never could get a feel for the flow of a game. McVay is a natural there and I'll be surprised if that becomes an issue.



Yeah Belichik used to do that in his early years, and as he grew as a head coach went away from it. Truth is we have a 31 year old head coach who is learning on the job. He's a quick study though, so let him do his thing. It's not even a minor concern for me, because what's important is we have a young HC who is going to grow into greatness right before our eyes. Let's just enjoy the ride IMO.

Thoroughly enjoying the ride and with McVay at the helm I haven't been this excited as a Rams fan since Warners first game.

The only point I was making is that if you want to be objective about the other night we were a phantom PI call away from losing a game where we scored 41 points. Media comments and the mood of this board would have been a helluva a lot different if that were the case.

I understand the offensive brilliance of our coach and due to his youth he will have some growing pains. Himself and the team need to view him as the Head Coach-not just the offensive coordinator. He is responsible for the performance of the whole team now-not just the offense. I'm sorry but if my offense is going to put up 41 points and my defense and special teams horrific play are going to lead to a loss I'm going to be on the sidelines (not getting third hand info through an earpiece) trying to see what the hell is going on and what I can do to help , support or evaluate with all due respect to Wade and Fassel.

Again, not panicking or making a big deal out of anything. Future for this team looks awesome. Just making an observation that I think McVay needs to understand and convey that he is involved in all aspects of the game and is not viewed as strictly an offensive coordinator. Big differece between the two. Head coaches are evaluated by wins and losses-not how their offense or defense performs as it relates to coordinators.

 

[Karate61]

Not necessary. Whether its meant to be personal or not, it comes across that way so please stick to the topic and/or post content...not the poster.
Thanks.

I didn't feel I was commenting about the poster, but rather the comments said by the poster. I didn't want to offend him, just referenced what he stated.