McVay meeting with Stan?

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Anyone know when McVay and Snead will meet with Stan? I ask because it's obvious that changes are needed to this team to achieve our potential.

I'm hinting at potentially replacing Wade and Pastoors. If the Rams wait much longer, the candidate pool will shrink.
 

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Hopefully demanding we go back to the 4-3...I hate this 3-4 hybrid shit
 

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Nah, we have the current talent needed. Brockers and Donald inside. Maybe Obo and put on 20 lbs and put his hand in the dirt along with fox. Maybe arrange the backers and bring in a new face or two. We have the DBs.

I dont think it's a far stretch to have them ready next year at all
 

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Who would you have replace Wade? Personally I don't see Wade or the defense as the issue.
Giving up a 50 burger to Tampa, letting Dallas run all over our defense, being unable to get Baltimore off the field at home with our talent. Inability to play defense consistently with our talent.

The Wade cycle appears he is good for two years and then drops off. Feel free to disagree with me.
 

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Wade got the D going...we were stingy. Only a few games got away from us. I dont know that he needs to go, but I hope some changes are made. Weddle shouldn't be here next year. Rapp and Johnson will be awesome together.
 

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Giving up a 50 burger to Tampa, letting Dallas run all over our defense, being unable to get Baltimore off the field at home with our talent. Inability to play defense consistently with our talent.

The Wade cycle appears he is good for two years and then drops off. Feel free to disagree with me.


The offense struggled against the Browns, Bucs, Niners (first game), Steelers, Bears, Ravens and Cowboys. We won two of those games because of the defense. Ironic that you say 50 burger in relation to the D against Tampa - the D was really bad, don't get me wrong - but one defensive TD was scored by the Bucs, and an INT got them down to the 10 yard line. Overall though I agree that the defense should have been better - I still think the offense was the bigger problem over the course of the season though.
 

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The offense struggled against the Browns, Bucs, Niners (first game), Steelers, Bears, Ravens and Cowboys. We won two of those games because of the defense. Ironic that you say 50 burger in relation to the D against Tampa - the D was really bad, don't get me wrong - but one defensive TD was scored by the Bucs, and an INT got them down to the 10 yard line. Overall though I agree that the defense should have been better - I still think the offense was the bigger problem over the course of the season though.
The offense did not struggle against the Bucs - they scored 40 points.

That's way more points that should allow the team to win even if the offense was accountable for 14 points (7 of them on almost the last play of the game which would not have happened if the defense was okay that game - and I am going to be passive and say 25 - 30 points is okay).
 

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The offense struggled against the Browns, Bucs, Niners (first game), Steelers, Bears, Ravens and Cowboys. We won two of those games because of the defense. Ironic that you say 50 burger in relation to the D against Tampa - the D was really bad, don't get me wrong - but one defensive TD was scored by the Bucs, and an INT got them down to the 10 yard line. Overall though I agree that the defense should have been better - I still think the offense was the bigger problem over the course of the season though.

Ok lets take the Bucs game out of the mix in regards to the offense, on defense tho...

You're right, we did struggle and that's why people are saying McVay needs to bring another offensive mind to right these scheme issues, because that's what they are. McVay not adjusting.

On Defense, I would say the same thing TONS of talent.

Donald
Ramsey
Fowler
Littleton
Weddle (he's still above average and good field general)
Mathews (still a good pass rusher, but misses tackles at times)
Hill (Very good #2 DB)
Rapp (should be in the convo for rookie of the year, Tackling machine)
John Jonhson ( I know he's hurt but a baller)

There should be no excuse for any team to put up 40+ points on that defense. It just shouldn't happen. But it did quite often this year.

I personally think Wade's tendencies have been figured out and it's why we're so Gawd awful on 3rd and 4th downs. And I hate bringing up the two 3rd and 16s in a row against a must win in SF. That right there would make me question either the players or the coaching staff if I were the HC. It's inexcusable.

I also feel the same way on Offense. Waaaaaaaaaay too much talent.
Woods
Higs
Cooper
Cooks
Everett
TGIII / Henderson (kid showed some juice this year)
Whitworth (still an above average LT)
Evans and Edwards (both young and played rather well)
Goff

You're telling me with that line up we'd only score 7 points against SF, Struggle against a basic Dallas defense, not be able to put up more than 12 points on Pitt, and look like a joke against the Ravens. I would have laughed if someone told me all these things at the beginning of the year.
But here we are LOL.

I digress, my point is there's waaaaaaay too much talent on this team as a whole to do what we did this year. One week we look like rockstars next week like a high school football team, and to get back to my point if McVay was our OC and we had a HC I would be questioning McVay just as much as I am Wade.
 
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Snead & McVay need to sit down and discuss what percentage of our failures were a result of personnel and what was determined by coaching being unprepared. Wade & McVay got us to 13-3 and a Super Bowl in 2018, only one season removed. Both McVay and Phillips failed to make needed adjustments and both led with less than adequate personnel at positions which got us burned at times. Games where we were blown out, that happens occasionally to even the best of teams, but should not occur as regularly as what happened with the Rams this season. Were players less than motivated, was game planning lazy, are there too many 'tells' our opposition are picking up on, ... or is our defense being consistently over-run on rushing plays because we lack proper defensive line and LB'ing personnel ? Why on 3'rd down passing plays are opposing offenses picking up big chunks of yards and first downs so often ? And what's with McVay basically forgetting that he had Gurley on his roster, and how is it after game planning one brilliant game he seemingly slips back into unconsciousness for the following game ?

Most Rams fans can point to the obvious personnel problems and look to a new season, a draft and a few free agents to relieve ourselves of old burdens, but coaching problems are truly beyond our control. Snead, McVay & Phillips should be able to identify assistant coach underlings who cost us, but if the problem is at the top it's less likely we don't repeat some of the same mistakes. Local media had suggested there might be a bloodbath here among coaches, but McSnead are taking a patient approach it would seem and are hopefully reviewing miles of tape to help them determine what change is necessary to get us back on a good footing as they prepare for 2020.
 

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God forbid someone have an opinion. Y'all with your damn opinion buttons lol.
 

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Stan is not Jerry or Snyder or Haslam thank God. He doesn't get involved in the inner workings of his teams. Stan doesn’t hold back money or tell people who they have to hire or fire. If the overall direction is bad like it was under Fisher he will get involved but there’s nothing McVay and Snead need to explain to him.
 

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Anyone know when McVay and Snead will meet with Stan? I ask because it's obvious that changes are needed to this team to achieve our potential.

I'm hinting at potentially replacing Wade and Pastoors. If the Rams wait much longer, the candidate pool will shrink.

I would imagine they would at least have an annual 'state of the team' type meeting, but Stan doesn't micro-manage his football team like other owners have been known. On the other hand, Kroenke & Demoff touch bases frequently on business affairs, at least from what i've gathered from press accounts.
 

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The offense did not struggle against the Bucs - they scored 40 points.

That's way more points that should allow the team to win even if the offense was accountable for 14 points (7 of them on almost the last play of the game which would not have happened if the defense was okay that game - and I am going to be passive and say 25 - 30 points is okay).


Did the offense score 40? I remember a pick 6 by Peters.

And do you realize that we threw 2 INTs in the first quarter that led to the Bucs having a 21-0 lead? That's just as much on the offense as it is the defense.

33 points, 500+ yards of offense - cool. But at the end of the day, the offense didn't play well in this game.

I agree the defense played a terrible game - but so did the offense.
 

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It was definitely a slow start by the offense but after the 21 0 lead, the Rams came roaring back to score 33 points with Goff getting 518 yards. And if Peters had dropped that 3rd and 9 pass instead of catching it and returning the interception for a TD, the Buccaneers would have punted from their 12 yard line. And the way the offense was playing in the second half, I have no doubt that the Rams would have scored another TD after that punt. At that point when it was 45 40, I thought for sure the Rams would win that game but the defense let us down and gave up 3 points on a long drive and then Goff got hit from behind in the last minute giving up that last TD to the Buccaneers.

That was not a bad game by the Offense. Just a bad start that took them into the second quarter to get going.
 

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34 points, 36 1st downs and 518 yards of offense should win the game. Tampa only punted 1 time after taking a 21-0 lead. Every time the Rams scored, Tampa came right back and scored on top
Rams defense gave up 44+ points 3 times in the season, and 2 other 30+ games
 

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34 points, 36 1st downs and 518 yards of offense should win the game. Tampa only punted 1 time after taking a 21-0 lead. Every time the Rams scored, Tampa came right back and scored on top
Rams defense gave up 44+ points 3 times in the season, and 2 other 30+ games
Im not a Winston fan, but he played out of his mind that day.
He looked like league MVP.

I'm not letting our D off the hook, but the guy deserves some credit. At least for that game.
 

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The Tampa and Baltimore game were 2 of the shittiest defensive performances in NFL history. No excuses for those. Theres only 16 games in the season and 1/8th we absolutely would have been better off having any other defensive coach in the league call them than Wade. Did we have any dominant performances this season? Maybe Pittsburgh and Arizona (1st game). The rest of the games were mediocre at best. With this much talent on defense theres no excuse. The cherry on top is the much maligned Marcus Peters was just chosen as an All-Pro DB. He looks like a completely different player in Baltimore than here. Coaching. Wade needs to go ASAP
 

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Im not a Winston fan, but he played out of his mind that day.
He looked like league MVP.

I'm not letting our D off the hook, but the guy deserves some credit. At least for that game.
he had 35 turnovers this season, 30 INT, 5 lost fumble. Only 1 to in the game. Yikes