McVay interview: Fitz & Whit

[PhillyRam]

Agreed. He will feel that change at QB if it happens but he's the guy to have running this show.

I would hope that the best scenario is to keep Stafford and he accepts less, then you still draft a QB if you feel one of these 2nd tier guys, Dart, McCord, Howard, or Slough have a chance to be a decent prospect and have them learn under Stafford for two years. Or if they suck, draft another one next year. If you have to burn some picks, that's just what you must do.

 

[AZRams]

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Stay as far away from that culture-killer as you possibly can.

 

[Merlin]

I would hope that the best scenario is to keep Stafford and he accepts less, then you still draft a QB if you feel one of these 2nd tier guys, Dart, McCord, Howard, or Slough have a chance to be a decent prospect and have them learn under Stafford for two years. Or if they suck, draft another one next year. If you have to burn some picks, that's just what you must do.

I think it's over with Stafford. Hope I'm wrong.

So I'd say re: those QBs what matters is which one has the most bro moments with McVay in whiteboard session. Rams will probably position where they feel they need to in order to get him.

Now if that option ends up being Dart I wonder where they think his target range is to get him.

 

[snackdaddy]

I'm still leaning towards them making a deal with Stafford to keep him at least one more year. It could be something similar to last year with an increase and more guarantees. But leaves both parties needing to resolve the situation one way or the other next offseason.

If by chance they do have to move on, Rogers is probably their best option to stay competitive in the post season. But with McVay being a bit of a control freak not sure how they could co-exist. Which leads me to believe Jimmy G. is the likely replacement.

 

[AZRams]

I'm still leaning towards them making a deal with Stafford to keep him at least one more year. It could be something similar to last year with an increase and more guarantees. But leaves both parties needing to resolve the situation one way or the other next offseason.

If by chance they do have to move on, Rogers is probably their best option to stay competitive in the post season. But with McVay being a bit of a control freak not sure how they could co-exist. Which leads me to believe Jimmy G. is the likely replacement.

I'd feel much better about Jimmy G than Rodgers.

I just can't get past the toxic culture-killing nonsense...

 

[den-the-coach]

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[ScotsRam]

I listened to the whole thing. It's clear that everyone's preference is a deal with the Rams. I'm more convinced than ever that he's gauging his market. The Rams will let another team set the market and will get near enough to that number that Matt stays here. IMO.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I would hope that the best scenario is to keep Stafford and he accepts less, then you still draft a QB if you feel one of these 2nd tier guys, Dart, McCord, Howard, or Slough have a chance to be a decent prospect and have them learn under Stafford for two years. Or if they suck, draft another one next year. If you have to burn some picks, that's just what you must do.

I get throwing a pick at a QB in most draft classes and see what happens. But this one is bad. So don't do it here and then start next year. It would be a waste of a pick.

Or to put it another way, would any of these guys be THAT much better than Bennett who was drafted to only be a backup in the first place.

 

[Merlin]

Stay as far away from that culture-killer as you possibly can.

In this league if you can play then teams and your teammates will overlook quirks. But once you can't play those quirks become shit that annoys teams and teammates.

McVay may give him a look for a year but he'll have to come cheap with an agreement they take a shot at a title together. And he won't be dictating to McVay about receivers, coaches, etc. Also the Rams are almost surely going to draft QB this year, and probably as high as they need to in order to get the one they prefer.

 

[AZRams]

In this league if you can play then teams and your teammates will overlook quirks. But once you can't play those quirks become shit that annoys teams and teammates.

McVay may give him a look for a year but he'll have to come cheap with an agreement they take a shot at a title together. And he won't be dictating to McVay about receivers, coaches, etc. Also the Rams are almost surely going to draft QB this year, and probably as high as they need to in order to get the one they prefer.

Rolling eyes at McCarthy's playcalls and changing them in the huddle...no thanks. And Packers finally moved off him for a reason...

Rams don't need his shit. Jimmy G can be average enough for a year or two and win games if it came to it.

 

[Merlin]

Rolling eyes at McCarthy's playcalls and changing them in the huddle...no thanks. And Packers finally moved off him for a reason...

Rams don't need his shit. Jimmy G can be average enough for a year or two and win games if it came to it.

I agree he is unlikely to be the choice. Just not quite at the point where I rule it out.

 

[PhillyRam]

I get throwing a pick at a QB in most draft classes and see what happens. But this one is bad. So don't do it here and then start next year. It would be a waste of a pick.

Or to put it another way, would any of these guys be THAT much better than Bennett who was drafted to only be a backup in the first place.

I like Dart & Slough... I think you could steal a good development QB that at worst may have some trade value in 3 years if you find "the guy" in next year's draft.

Purdy has lesser raw talent than those two and he took his team to a SB. I would say those guys have much better arm talent than Hurts and he won a ring.

I think we all get caught up in wanting or expecting a plug & play guy like Daniels or Williams. They are exceptions. Even Mahomes sat a year. Hurts sat most of his rookie year. You can't tell me McVay can't take guys off that list and develop them and build an offense they can thrive in and a team that can support them.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I like Dart & Slough... I think you could steal a good development QB that at worst may have some trade value in 3 years if you find "the guy" in next year's draft.

Purdy has lesser raw talent than those two and he took his team to a SB. I would say those guys have much better arm talent than Hurts and he won a ring.

I think we all get caught up in wanting or expecting a plug & play guy like Daniels or Williams. They are exceptions. Even Mahomes sat a year. Hurts sat most of his rookie year. You can't tell me McVay can't take guys off that list and develop them and build an offense they can thrive in and a team that can support them.

I think we differ on the "at worst" part here. I think Dart and Slough at best would be good backups.

I have no clue where you get that these guys have better arm talent than Hurts (maybe processing?) so a bit lost there - really lost - but haven't watched any Slough games, only highlights.

I think you greatly underestimate Purdy as the lesser talent (Dart for sure can't even process 1/10 of what Purdy seems to be able to do) though if you want to make an argument that you should takes shots at QB somewhere in the draft, Purdy is a good example of that.

Edit: I saw that you wrote "lesser raw talent" and I'm guessing you mean tools, which yes, I think you could argue that but not sure how germane that is when a QB's ability to process, learn and execute and keep eyes up/move in pocket are the superior qualities.

Is it possibly that some of us are overrating about even taking a shot at these QBs because we have a need and not looking at them objectively and seeing that it's an incredibly low, infinitesimal chance that they become even spot starters in this league.

(Mind you, if we draft one of these guys, I'll convince myself they've got some sort of shot at being a long term backup!)

 

[Ramsker]

I think it's over with Stafford. Hope I'm wrong.

So I'd say re: those QBs what matters is which one has the most bro moments with McVay in whiteboard session. Rams will probably position where they feel they need to in order to get him.

Now if that option ends up being Dart I wonder where they think his target range is to get him.

I think the same. If they are letting him test the market, I have no doubt a team will be willing to give him the $$$ he is wanting. If he stays I think it's because he believes it's his best chance to win and he's prioritizing winning vs $$$.

I'm going to hate seeing him leave but it's a business. Got to move forward as quickly as possible.

 

[Ramsker]

I'd feel much better about Jimmy G than Rodgers.

I just can't get past the toxic culture-killing nonsense...

Was the toxic culture killing nonsense a product of where he was or has he always been known for this. It seemed to me that he was trying to take charge because it was the f'ing Jets, a notoriously poorly run/owned team with a very weak head coach. I could be wrong on that, I Just don't remember this as a problem in Green Bay.

I wouldn't bother with Rodgers unless you could get him very very cheap and he would compete with Jimmy G. He is 41 and might have 1 year left in him, maybe. It would be a dumb risk to take him on anything but the cheap imo...

 

[Wisconsinram]

That interview was awesome. McVay may be the most self-actualized person I am aware of. Just listen to how he self-reflects, props others up, and actually models what he speaks. So articulate and well-versed in everyday conversation. Boy, are we fortunate. He talks of gratitude....well, I have a lot of it for him being our leader.

 

[dang]

Great interview! I got to say it makes me appreciate Sean McVay even more than I already did. He’s going to do the best thing he can for Rams. I hope that the Stafford deal works out but knowing that we have McVay makes me feel confident that he will do what is best for the Rams!

Great point. McVays job and passion is “doing the best for the Rams”. It’s a “We Not Me” approach that also applies to hard decisions like not resigning/ trading key Rams players/great human beings like Stafford/Kupp/Woods/and yes…Goff. Because McVay knows to compete he’s got to balance that with the “Me not We” mentality of other players like (fill in the blank). It will hurt McVay and Rams fans to see Kupp or Stafford leave but you can bet it’s for the betterment of the Rams.

 

[dang]

Stay as far away from that culture-killer as you possibly can.

I don’t like Rodgers as a person but he is a bridge option should Stafford be traded. Not so with most other available vets.

 

[Memento]

That interview was awesome. McVay may be the most self-actualized person I am aware of. Just listen to how he self-reflects, props others up, and actually models what he speaks. So articulate and well-versed in everyday conversation. Boy, are we fortunate. He talks of gratitude....well, I have a lot of it for him being our leader.

I want to be like Sean McVay in terms of his self-reflection and subsequent growth.

Easily the best and most articulate and intelligent coach I’ve seen on any of my sports teams - Rams, St. Louis Cardinals (baseball), Blues, and Mizzou. Yes, I’d even put him above LaRussa.

There’s just something about McVay that has people gravitate towards him, and I don’t think people realize just how lucky we are to have him. He surprises me in a good way with every interview, every time he talks.

 

[Ramhusker]

I like Dart & Slough... I think you could steal a good development QB that at worst may have some trade value in 3 years if you find "the guy" in next year's draft.

Purdy has lesser raw talent than those two and he took his team to a SB. I would say those guys have much better arm talent than Hurts and he won a ring.

I think we all get caught up in wanting or expecting a plug & play guy like Daniels or Williams. They are exceptions. Even Mahomes sat a year. Hurts sat most of his rookie year. You can't tell me McVay can't take guys off that list and develop them and build an offense they can thrive in and a team that can support them.

Will Howard could be that guy if he’s still around when pick 100ish comes around.