McShay Mocks Us Ty Simpson At 13

[Ram Ts]

Nothing gets more clicks than QB talk

And when combined with some McVay retiring speculation….

 

[Ranma]

Orlovsky's claim that NFL GMs share his opinion that Simpson is better than Mendoza is countered by Kiper, Jr. who says that's not what he's hearing from his own sources. Theoretically, maybe both statements are correct in that neither is worthy of a high first-round selection. Again, I say "theoretically". Orlovsky seems like the contrarian even among other ESPN analysts. One argument says that Simpson didn't benefit as much as Mendoza did in his situation at Indiana. While that may be true, the counter is that Simpson himself wasn't lacking in resources or opportunities as well at Alabama, of all places. The difference was that Mendoza was clearly the difference-maker who lifted his team to higher success. Another argument was that if Simpson was taller, he'd be ranked higher. This is where the Mac Jones comparison came in. Either way, he would still need to sit and watch before reaching his full potential.

In any case, I really don't have a problem with Ty Simpson, but I'm certainly not high on him as a draft pick in the first or even second round in this year's class. The QB position tends to be overrated every year in the draft and this looks to be the case again this year. Tua Tagovailoa...Trey Lance...Zach Wilson...Justin Fields...C.J. Stroud...Bo Nix...Michael Penix, Jr. Any of these names ring a bell? Sure, any one of these guys can still have a solid NFL career in time even with a closing career window--see Sam Darnold--but the point remains that quarterbacks tend to be over-drafted probably more than any other position in the draft. Speaking of Darnold...I've said before that I can see Simpson reaching a similar stature but with less arm talent and moxie.


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[Merlin]

You fuckers are gonna rue the day when Mel's right with his pet QB choice.

 

[Merlin]

In any case, I really don't have a problem with Ty Simpson, but I'm certainly not high on him as a draft pick in the first or even second round in this year's class. The QB position tends to be overrated every year in the draft and this looks to be the case again this year. Tua Tagovailoa...Trey Lance...Zach Wilson...Justin Fields...C.J. Stroud...Bo Nix...Michael Penix, Jr. Any of these names ring a bell? Sure, any one of these guys can still have a solid NFL career in time even with a closing career window--see Sam Darnold--but the point remains that quarterbacks tend to be over-drafted probably more than any other position in the draft. Speaking of Darnold...I've said before that I can see Simpson reaching a similar stature but with less arm talent and moxie.

Yeah Darnold had legit talent when he came out. He's a full sized QB, has a strong arm, and is far more athletic than folks realize. He just came out before he was ready and paid the price. Pete Carroll called him on that shit at his presser after Darnold declared, and Pete was right.

Simpson's a whole different deal. He's kind of like Brees but without the starts and film to show he can be an outlier at this level. He just didn't win the job until his last year in college. So to take him up high you're basically putting all your money on red at the roulette wheel. Or maybe more accurately on a number on that table.

I get people thinking Simpson is the second best option in this class. But then how much falloff is there after him to those others. And that's what you run into when you reach hard for a QB in round 1. You're then going to see other teams taking QBs midrounds who are not that far off the dude you chose, who have questions, sure, but they don't require that top pick. And that top pick of yours isn't bringing in a player at another position who could help your team year one.

Advantage of reaching for him is that you get the 5th year option. But what will that be worth if he's a middling QB starter, or a borderline QB2/Starter. That's not as great of a positive unless you hit on the QB.

I've prepared myself for the Rams drafting him, simply because it would figure they take the dude I don't think is a smart bet. But if that happens McVay increases his odds considerably with his offense. However I will remind everyone that McVay was also the dude who cast a better QB off in Jared Goff. Chances are Simpson won't ever be in Goff's class. So to me Simpson to the Rams doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's at a value range in the draft, i.e. later than round 1 at the very least.

 

[PhillyRam]

Yeah Darnold had legit talent when he came out. He's a full sized QB, has a strong arm, and is far more athletic than folks realize. He just came out before he was ready and paid the price. Pete Carroll called him on that shit at his presser after Darnold declared, and Pete was right.

Simpson's a whole different deal. He's kind of like Brees but without the starts and film to show he can be an outlier at this level. He just didn't win the job until his last year in college. So to take him up high you're basically putting all your money on red at the roulette wheel. Or maybe more accurately on a number on that table.

I get people thinking Simpson is the second best option in this class. But then how much falloff is there after him to those others. And that's what you run into when you reach hard for a QB in round 1. You're then going to see other teams taking QBs midrounds who are not that far off the dude you chose, who have questions, sure, but they don't require that top pick. And that top pick of yours isn't bringing in a player at another position who could help your team year one.

Advantage of reaching for him is that you get the 5th year option. But what will that be worth if he's a middling QB starter, or a borderline QB2/Starter. That's not as great of a positive unless you hit on the QB.

I've prepared myself for the Rams drafting him, simply because it would figure they take the dude I don't think is a smart bet. But if that happens McVay increases his odds considerably with his offense. However I will remind everyone that McVay was also the dude who cast a better QB off in Jared Goff. Chances are Simpson won't ever be in Goff's class. So to me Simpson to the Rams doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's at a value range in the draft, i.e. later than round 1 at the very least.

He didn't cast off Goff based on his talent. He seemed to get tired of his mental mistakes. Simpson seems to be legit between the ears, he just needs a lot more experience.

Not sold on him either though as I just wish he was in that 6-3 220 range size wise.

 

[Fire Ants]

He could be if Simpson bottoms out like many others. Did you actually WATCH Bama games, or just the highlights?

Simpson was hurt and sick the last part of the season. The 1st 7 or 8 games he was very good.

Having typed that - I'd rather have Beck in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[Ram Ts]

2nd best sounds good - but it’s all relative.

2nd best Victoria secrets model - score!
2nd best turd - still a turd.

 

[Merlin]

He didn't cast off Goff based on his talent. He seemed to get tired of his mental mistakes. Simpson seems to be legit between the ears, he just needs a lot more experience.

Not sold on him either though as I just wish he was in that 6-3 220 range size wise.

Yes but I think it applies here, with Simpson, to realize how high McVay's standards are at QB. And by extension I think it is part of that conversation when it comes to reaching for him in the first round.