Lions getting cheated by everybody

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That's why 1999 was so special... we were so good the fucking refs couldn't take it from us.

I shouldn't have watched that... I'm damn near hyperventilating over here... that kind of mess gets me super angry... no blue font.

but it does reinforce the NFL's own argument that football isn't a sport.. it's entertainment...

fraaaaaack
 
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I get what your post content meant and it was egregious on every level...

For some reason, I don't remember that play.

Truly one of the biggest referee coaching blunders of all time. Even worse than the no call pass interference on the Rams at Saints NFC championship game a few years ago.



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Well after 5 decades of playing, watching and then for a 5 year span gambling on sports, ive come to the conclusion that yes, you better believe all is not on the level

I was so blind at the start, but hey, it is what it is, just imagine if they could eliminate let’s say, the home plate ump and replace him with a machine (which they could easily do) for pitch location (he could still call plays at the plate] how easy it would be to clean up on MLB games

likewise, how many game changing phantom 3rd down penalties does it take?


Edit, this has nothing to do with one particular team or another, Vegas couldn’t care less on that aspect. (My opinion)
 
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Makes me laugh when Rams fans say the league and refs are always ONLY against us. Do they never watch and other games? Every team gets fucked over...

Maybe except the Brady led Cheatriots... fuck those MF’rs!
 
Yes, the Lions got hosed. Really freaking awful, that’s why I posted this thread.

However....

In defense of the NFL...

And in defense of the refs...

(pauses for a moment to duck behind the couch while tomatoes are thrown)....

SOME of these calls are based on BAD RULES which were CHANGED AND CORRECTED the following year.

That first AWFUL one? They fixed that BS rule the following year. But don’t blame the refs. They accurately called the rule the way it was written at the time.

The Calvin Johnson TD catch? Again, the refs made the proper call according to the (awful!!) rule that was in place at the time. But thankfully that “control through the ground” rule has been successfully changed to allow for common sense.

The OBJ drop? Not sure what year that happened, but I doubt that drop would go by unnoticed by today’s standards.

The late hit on Stafford? Yeah, that’s bullshit will never change... some QB’s get the benefit of the doubt more than others.

The “bat” by Seahawks in EZ? Ref did indeed screw up that one. Sounds like “intent” is not reviewable though.

Lastly... a good case can be made for the call in that last play (DET-ATL) to remain on the books. Det WR was indeed down by contact short of the EZ., and there were only 8 or 9 seconds left when he was down... Det had no timeouts... could they have gotten everyone lined up and spiked the ball within 8 or 9 seconds, or would the game clock have expired? (Edit: there was some discussion of lowering the mandatory run-off time to seven seconds, but I think they kept it at 10.)

Attached, links to two articles which discuss the above plays. Interesting stuff.


 
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Just chiming in to say that i think this past season was the best officiated season i've seen since the advent of instant replay.

The refs called it as they saw it this year without having 70,000 fans overreacting to every big hit and influencing the refs to overreact with their flags. I also feel like without a home crowd those ghost momentum shift type flags were less prevalent.
 
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Mojo Ram said:
Just chiming in to say that i think this past season was the best officiated season i've seen since the advent of instant replay.

The refs called it as they saw it this year without having 70,000 fans overreacting to every big hit and influencing the refs to overreact with their flags. I also feel like without a home crowd those ghost momentum shift type flags were less prevalent.
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Yea you are probably right. I've seen many times a ref call a flag because of what appeared fan pressure.

Or at a minimum, lets just say a ref woke the hell up to pay attention and call more flags against visiting team.

But I still am unsettled about the DWill/Bills call. Calling that at that point in the game on 4th down. That's weak sauce.
 
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WTF was that? Why on that first play was it not reviewable? AND they throw the flag on the coach on top of that?

That is just horrible.
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this was very recently after they added the rule that all touchdown plays are reviewed automatically, and for some reason part of the rule is if you throw challenge flag on an automatically reviewed play its a unsportsmanlike 15 yards and you dont even get the challenge anymore. its literally the dumbest rule, not sure if its still around though
 
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this was very recently after they added the rule that all touchdown plays are reviewed automatically, and for some reason part of the rule is if you throw challenge flag on an automatically reviewed play its a unsportsmanlike 15 yards and you dont even get the challenge anymore. its literally the dumbest rule, not sure if its still around though
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Nah, they got rid of it... because of the DET-HOU play
 
XXXIVwin said:
Yes, the Lions got hosed. Really freaking awful, that’s why I posted this thread.

However....

In defense of the NFL...

And in defense of the refs...

(pauses for a moment to duck behind the couch while tomatoes are thrown)....

SOME of these calls are based on BAD RULES which were CHANGED AND CORRECTED the following year.

That first AWFUL one? They fixed that BS rule the following year. But don’t blame the refs. They accurately called the rule the way it was written at the time.

The Calvin Johnson TD catch? Again, the refs made the proper call according to the (awful!!) rule that was in place at the time. But thankfully that “control through the ground” rule has been successfully changed to allow for common sense.

The OBJ drop? Not sure what year that happened, but I doubt that drop would go by unnoticed by today’s standards.

The late hit on Stafford? Yeah, that’s bullshit will never change... some QB’s get the benefit of the doubt more than others.

The “bat” by Seahawks in EZ? Ref did indeed screw up that one. Sounds like “intent” is not reviewable though.

Lastly... a good case can be made for the call in that last play (DET-ATL) to remain on the books. Det WR was indeed down by contact short of the EZ., and there were only 8 or 9 seconds left when he was down... Det had no timeouts... could they have gotten everyone lined up and spiked the ball within 8 or 9 seconds, or would the game clock have expired? (Edit: there was some discussion of lowering the mandatory run-off time to seven seconds, but I think they kept it at 10.)

Attached, links to two articles which discuss the above plays. Interesting stuff.


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I think the issue is two fold:

First, because it's the Lions there's just no outrage. Like that "facemask" they called for the Packers, next play they catch a hail mary and win. Imagine if those Links uniforms were Patriots uniforms...

Second, is selective enforcement. Technically they get some calls right - such as the 10 second run off - however I saw multiple times this year where the refs didn't use the 10 second run off, they just kept the clock where it was.

Remember in 2019 when Dak said "kick" against us? And it came out that we were going to get the ball both before and after half because he didn't say"defer"? The NFL correctly said "let's just fix that" - that's what should have been done for that 10 second run off
 
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